So I’m currently on my washout and had a question. I came across a website called brain.fm that helps entrain your brain to its music to achieve specific states. I read on their website that they don’t use binaural beats or anything similar to that, they have a whole team of psychologists, neuroscientists and engineers who use natural ways to make their sounds achieve specific states. My question is would this interfere with my washout since it’s not technically brainwave entrainment of the traditional sense?
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it’s best to avoid Brain.fm, as its neural phase-locking technology still affects brain activity, even without traditional subliminal messages. While it does not use affirmations or direct brainwave training, it influences mental states, which could slow down the natural process of processing and integrating past subliminal input.
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It’s alright to listen to it. There are certain frequencies that are beneficial to humans even to animals. I spent time in the park, near the shore line, or I spent exploring the wilderness after I listen to the titles. Nature has a very good frequency to heal our body, strengthen our immune system. The sound of rain, thunder storm is also good and worth listening into.
When you can relax your body, in high spirit, go into the highest vibration then you can expect to see the best version of yourself, including manifesting the things that you wanted.
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I’ve only used it for two days since I discovered it 2 days ago during my washout but you are right, just to be on the safe side. I only used it to be able to relax, meditate and it did wonders for my focus. I’ve never been able to focus quite as focused as I was while using it. I’ll take a month off or so before using it again.
If I take a month off and use brain.fm, would that be okay? It really helps with staying focused and memory and I’m trying to get several certifications that require extensive reading which my brain tends to get bored quick because of my undiagnosed adhd, or I think its adhd. I can never seem to complete a task that requires a lot of mental effort, till brain.fm came along. I had messaged support long time ago and they said that take 5 days to be on the safe side or best 7 days during a washout.
So now I’m confused. I thought it was only bad to use bwe during your subliminal use and before the 5 days of washout. I’m I missing something?
isn’t it already in the questions and comments section already? or is it only showing that on my end?
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I updated it before you posted your above response.
okay thanks and sorry I didn’t even realize that I put it in the wrong place.
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Just for the record, just wanted to state that I’m not endorsing brain.fm or any other program. I always like to check in with support or the forum with what can and can’t do while running SC, I’m still learning and with all this new technology popping out of the wood work, its hard to differentiate from what’s BWE or just plain music nowadays. I used to think BWE constituted only binaural, isochronic beat etc and could only be used for a certain amount of time per day like 30mins or an hour max. So bear with me everyone, I’m still learning. Don’t want to lead people down the wrong track with inaccurate information. I tried to log in to write a ticket on my support account but it wouldn’t let me and wouldn’t let me reset my password so I thought I’d ask it here.
so looked more into neural phase locking and apparently we naturally do this already and its a natural part when learning, especially in poetry and rhythm, or any activity that requires repeating patterns.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7395883/
also found this article too https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6139034/
what stood out to me was what the first sentence in the article said that @Phoenix mentioned
the article says “Natural environments elicit both phase-locked and non-phase-locked neural responses to the stimulus in the brain. The interpretation of the BOLD signal to date has been based on an association of the non-phase-locked power of high-frequency local field potentials (LFPs), or the related spiking activity in single neurons or groups of neurons.”
I found these articles very fascinating
Good point! That makes me think—if it’s something the brain already does, then maybe Brain.fm isn’t really interfering but just supporting a natural function.
At the same time, a washout is meant to remove all outside influences, so if Brain.fm is guiding brain activity in a specific way, it could still affect the process. I guess it depends on how strict you want to be with the washout.
Really interesting articles, thanks for sharing!
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I wondered this always but there are so many variables to consider that I’m not sure anymore. I remember asking on here about merconi union weightless track and I was told that it was okay to use and might even reduce recon.
If I’m not wrong, merconi weightless song uses synths, rhythm and the beats per minute of the music to slow your mind down and entrain it to be calmer. Which makes me wonder where the line is between brainwave entrainment and just music. I know jazz has been shown to change your mental state, depending on the tempo and motivational high energy music too. I remember asking support about even singing bowls and was told it was fine if it doesn’t have BWE but I have read singing bowls have certain vibrations emitting from the bowls that calms your mind. I always thought BWE was just binaural, isochronal etc beats lol. It was easy to avoid it all together. Even when I came across brain.fm I thought it wasn’t bwe because they said they didn’t use binaural beats so I was like ohh, great. So now I’m even more confused than before.
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You are probably right, best to stay clear of it for awhile
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Most welcome.
If you didn’t mention phase locking, I probably wouldn’t have looked it up or known.
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Would neurofeedback count as BWE then?
Neurofeedback is a method that assists subjects to control their brain waves consciously.
If your intention is to understand it through research that would take some time, or experience it and be surprised.
Everything here has a frequency, it’s just some are so faint that it won’t affect others. I don’t totally believe on the ancient like for instance Fung Shui practice - they arrange things to make the flow of energy beneficial to people. When I reorient my working space (not exactly Fung Shui way) I noticed a good impact to what I did. You will also noticed if you’re going with healing program (including healing titles) you’re become attracted to things that are mostly beneficial to you and avoid things that cause trouble.
I prefer not to study what science knows little about, experienced is best.
I first learn piano as a kid and when I decided to join a band in my teens I find it very hard to play on the stage with a guitar (it is easier to learn the guitar when you have a background in piano) then the teacher keeps telling me to ‘feel’ the music (I couldn’t understand it) so I tried to feel the music with my ears to flow (entrained) to my mind and let it (allow) to sync with the music, in no time I played the guitar as if like a master.
I believe the ‘action’ there is to stay away from other unproven technologies.
In my own business I don’t allow loud rock music played on the background as it proved to be distracting, whereas soft music (not old music) are inspiring - it motivates them and makes them do there job productively.
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So I have done neurofeedback in the past. I used to go to this one place where they offered neurofeedback sessions but looking back, it didn’t really fit my goals at the time. Also, I don’t think they knew what they were doing, in my humble opinion. The sessions were too expensive and looking back, if I knew SC, I probably could’ve spent that money back then and gotten way further in my journey. Every session, I felt kind of weird while driving back home. It’s hard to describe. Maybe it was the protocol they used and what not.
Not sure why but washouts tend to be the worst for me. Granted I used brain.fm for a couple of days, maybe a week, but before my previous runs I never used anything else but still had the same issues. This time around, I’ve just been lazing around, masturbating and watching porn almost every day, which is frustrating because sometimes I don’t even feel like doing it but almost like a trigger, when I’m in the house alone. It sucks because I feel like it’s my way of self soothing. I had the same issue before the washout too, where something stressful happened at work and I was so stressed that when I got home I had to stroke one out to release the anxiety and stress in my body. I was on nofap for a week or so then the bad habit carried on again. I know it’s not healthy in any way but I want to break this vicious cycle. I don’t know why I struggle to do long washouts.