What is it
This is amazing, where is this from?
Have had a lot of spare time to dive into different sales trainings, role play videos, etc, and it’s really revealed to me, man I am WAY better than I give myself credit for lol. Not to come off overly cocky here, but 90%+ of these sales trainers and closers out sound like absolute robots, needy/taking energy, not even listening but thinking what they have to say next.
There are some holes in my game as well for sure don’t get me wrong, the biggest being I’m not sure I have that savage/closer/killer mentality, so some of the above mentioned actually do better then me, but my overall social skills, freedom of expression, charisma, etc are on a whole other level.
After my self reflection excercise yesterday, I’ve decided that I do not want to become a sales coach or offer sales training, but focusing more on overall social dynamics. Helping people become UNSTIFLED. Complete freedom of expression, comfort in the self. I strongly believe there’s a whole different person hiding in every man. The person who says the inappropriate joke that they hold back because there afraid it’s inappropriate. The person that can tell their boss their crossing their boundary. The person that can stand up to his wife and tell her that her behavior is out of line. The person that shoots the shot.
This is the thing, that I truly to my core feel I am the best in the world at, and where I have the expertise and experience to really offer value to people. The closest way I can describe this is Primal, this is who I deep down, really am as a person and what I believe in with my core. What gets me fired up and passionate in life.
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@Niles i feel like most of the passion and joy and unbelievable focus on wealth creation came when i was running EOG1, compared to EOG2. have you noticed anything similar? did most of your passion and inspiration and obsession with wealth come when you ran ST1?
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More so stage 1 for sure. There’s some potential use case for stage 2/3 for sure, but right now EOG 1 is the main focus for me and the stack is synergizing very nicely. Note to self, if your going to run 3 titles, havinng them all focused on one purpose/goal, as opposed to trying to accomplish two or three different things at once is so much more effective.
Only thing I may mix up here is building a HOM name embedded, and for the module either New status expieriennce, wealth expierience, results enhancing, or aura of wealth.
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Solid start to the month. Best week I’ve had with the company, with probably half the volume of what I’ve done in the past. Selling leaps and bounds better since adding HOM.
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HOM name embedded with NSE or NWE would be very interesting.
I’d probably go NWE for sales.
Although HOM with NSE would be very cool, I could see that being very HOM with Khan social power
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Are you focusing more on stage 2 now
Much better start to the sales month, both closing percentage and volume wise. Today was the last day of my first cycle with EOG/HOM/Limitless. Haven’t had a “breakthrough” financially yet, but things are moving in the right direction. Overall I’m much more wealth motivated this past month then I typically am. I’ve noticed more and more, that I’m prioritizing my career and wealth goals, above other things that used to take the lead in the past, like working out, social life, etc. I’ve been able to maintain both of those, but I’m putting work first finally.
In the past their used to be a lot of fear around missing workouts occasionally, or missing a social event, and this is finally start to change, which is a huge win for me.
I’ve also gained quite a bit of awareness around how I spend my money, financial goals and direction, although I need to work on application here still, has reckless spending especially for social events and going out is not aligned with my goals.
I feel much more committed to wealth this time around. In the past, I had a pattern of messing up my progress my switching my stack to something completely unrelated, or feel like other area’s of my life are suffering and sabotage a lot of my progress. This time, I’m going in with the mindset of I don’t care how long it takes, and I know this is the #1 priority and area of my life I need to address.
Finally, I believe HOM has brought me back up to my elite level of closing. I have complete confidence in my skill set, and the amount of progress I’ve seen last month is tremendous. I’m truly starting to believe at my core that I could be one of the best in the world, and I’m actually starting to enjoy it more despite my rant the other week. A lot of this change, comes from being more auththentic, dropping the script completley, and just allowing myself to flow more on calls.
Going to do a 3-4 day washout, and then next cycle I’ll be testing out RoW in place of EOG as it sounds like there could be a lot of application for sales use cases. Keeping Limitless and HOM, and then I’ll be rotating EOG/ROW the next few months to adress things at different angles.
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You’ve been…?
Typo.
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Pretty rough day yesterday, really putting a damper in an otherwise solid month. Came down with flu like symptoms on Monday, and ended up going 0/4 on calls yesterday. Have a couple follow ups set, but didn’t seem very promising. On top of that, I jacked up my shoulder snowboarding last weekend, and im pretty much in constant pain and can’t move it lol. Hoping there’s no fracture, but it feels very likely.
While my closing % has been great on this offer, I had a convo with the owner this month about how it might not make sense to keep me on the team with the current lead flow. Im the only closer on the offer right now, and with him paying a base as well that’s basically 2X for him with rhe currency difference, things haven’t been the most profitable. Giving it our best shot this month, but may be looking for another offer here again soon.
Really need to do some thinking on what my next move will be. I am 1000% percent confident in my skill set, the ability to sell, and coach a team on how to sell, building out funnels, but im not sure I want to enter the coaching space. I have a strong preference to be more into product sales, tech, or something other then coaching services. Would even consider a low skill- labor based business like tree removal, snow, landscaping, painting etc.
I really dislike being an employee. I’ve known this about myself my whole life. The control, less money, less freedom, and more then anything I hate having a constant pressure to perform and “always be on”. That alone has drastically reduced my overall life quality, and im not sure the financial trade off is worth it. When you own the business, you remove yourself, being sick, not having a good day, or any self imposed limitations from being your main financial constraint.
Step 1, is going to be to DECIDE which direction and what type of business I will start.
From there, I need to find some type of job that covers my expenses, that I don’t hate doing while I work on my own business.
Another big decision ive made this week, is I’ll be going sober for the foreseeable future. While I mainly keep drinking and going out to the weekend, it has a negative effect on every area of my life.
Relationship, my health and fitness, my finances, and it feels nearly impossible to get ahead while alcohol or drugs remain in my life.
I love to have a good time, and it’s not a forever thing, but until I build more leverage and start moving ahead, I’ll be cutting it out, along with friends that aren’t working on moving their life forward.
The hardest part for me is my family dynamic. We are all really close, especially my younger siblings, and love to go out and party together. However with them being younger and in there early 20s, were just at different points of our life, and I need to get things handled and under control before my life slips away.
That will be a challenging change, but I feel like getting my shit together and setting the example for them is the right thing to do. On top of that, I want to be able to do epic, fun shit together when we’re older, and in order to do that, I need to sacrifice a few years of fun now.
Did a micro loop of paragon today to hopefully speed up the healing process, but aside from that I will be washing out through Saturday.
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hit me up off the forum i am deeply connected to the sales recruiter world now bro and they would LOVE you - i’ll connect ya
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Reflecting on the past couple cycles, there’s definitely been something missing for me with my whole stack focused on wealth. While ive made some great progress with my skill set, ive noticed my inner life slowly start to slide backwards.
My resilience, gym motivation, confidence, emotional intelligence, a lot of the things that I gain from having some type of alpha sub in the stack, and things that genuinely make me just feel better. In turn, some of my habits have started to slip.
While my focus is still on sales, running a sub like emperor, stark black, khan, or ED, really helps me to balance the other elements of my life, in turn helping me sell better from being on top of my shit.
Ive decided to bring one of those back, in place of HOM. While HOM initially boosted my sales, without TSB in my stack, ive noticed what @Azriel has mentioned in some points, where HOM almost builds too much rapport, and somewhat lowers my actual ability to close. Rediclous amount of sales what to follow up this month so far, only to end up ghosting, evening when I collected deposits. This is where TSB really shines in my opinion, and will be coming back into the stack as well.
Leaning towards an ED, TSB, and EOG or RoW stack for this month.
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This is definitely true, feeling really strong lately; my long-term lover just cut things off with me because she wants to focus on starting a family, and that’s not my goal at this time, and it has made me realize how important that masculine edge is. I still have ASBR in stack (in custom with HOM) and that definitely helps. But that sense of self governance, and masculinity to support in all life alongside relationships like you’d get from Khan or possibly Emperor Daddy/Emperor it’s a missing. ASBR helps a bit but no as strongly as the other
I’ve found caring about something ELSE as much or more than sales helps with sales because it creates detachment. Ironically it can be other problems as well, when my other work is strained or personally stuff is happening in my life, I can do BETTER at sales because I’m more concerned with other things
I’ve fount TWTP helps with these things because I view power as holistic well being. Also run a Mind’s Eye custom with BDLM and Hercules that helps with gym. ASBR is still in my stack (in custom with HOM). Mind’s Eye has limitless in it and helps with workouts a lot in my experience. It works well for versatility in stack. Both of those integrate well as pseudo-replacements for things while still supporting sales.
Sales is different than wealth in my opinion or they can be connected. Major subs like Khan, Emperor can help way more with wealth than just in sales.
I’ve been taking a testosterone booster lately, and it makes sales harder. Anything that creates personal edge, irritability can make sales harder. Edge with well being makes sales better though
This is true, I’m running it in a custom with ASBR and still running TSB and it’s really on point.
@Niles drop all synergy modules for TSB, if you have any synergy modules, remake it it with just focus modules. Adding HOM back in custom helped a sales edge I was having. The last 5 months I struggled being my absolute dominant top-of-team self, and on the 6 months when adding HOM back in, I started to get back to my normal self, since the end of January I switched back to TSB V2 with no synergy- and it’s mind-boggling how much better everything is, performance, manifestation.
I doubt this is synergy blooming since the instant I went back my numbers and flow shot through the roof.
I did this based on a comment @Invictus made about synergy moving slowly. After 6 months of running synergy, it comes nowhere near as close to immediate performance results as focus. And never created the same kind of high-performance environment. It was very good to great, but not excellent to the best. I was struggling to figure out the difference when the answer was right in front of me all along V3 version had synergy and is not as good for sales as V2 with focus only modules.
EOG will likely help sales tremendously after adjustment.
I would do ED or TSB to start OR EOG/ TSB to start and then add the third.
ROW is so high level may be to much for consistent sales. It also seems to correlate with abundance outside of money. Using 3 minutes of it really helped release and reset a lot for me. I will use ROW almost like a wealth pyschedelic when their needs to be a reset to get back to flow.
I can see it being fantastic for long term development, but to high level for the performance I need.
Fire suggested using ROW or EOG stage 3 or 4 for raising the Fund I am working with. With my support and efforts but not my direct responsibility -it’ looks like we’ll do a 30-50 million first close in the next two months. However, I wanted to be directly responsible for raising 50 million in capital.
Interesting about the synergy modules, definitely may have to rework the custom as there is some new ones I’d like to include; mainly deep listening, aura of wealth, worthiness recalibration.
I think a big part of the reason I have a hard time running the full wealth stack, is that there is a part of me that associates wealth, with boring, and somewhat being the provider male type, which is a huge fear of mine.
So, is it exciting to be broke or mediocre and care more about other things? I could see that lol
Wealth means well-being. Wealth as a provider type sounds like some red-pill distortion.
To me wealth is power and mastery of time and value. It’s the most badass thing to have financial success.
You don’t need to run a full wealth stack to improve your financial situation or start the path of wealth.
Wealth sounds like it’s low on your values list, so you are forcing yourself to it. And you have no meaningful cause behind generating wealth or anything different so you keep hitting inertia and nothing new can come in.
What would be different or exciting about your life if upleveled your financial situation?
I’ll tag in my journal more on this.
I recommend you listen to this audiobook
Dr. John Demartini’s Ultimate Wealth Mastery Library: Key Strategies for Financial Mastery
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If the above is suppose to have a link, it doesn’t appear to be working.
It’s not a link, just Bold. People can put that into google
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I am more referring to the typical lifestyle that it takes to become wealthy. Early nights, not partying/going out, prioritizing routine, working for the most part on a lab top, this is not appealing to me, but that’s just my personality. I get bored of routine very quickly, but have a ton of energy when starting something new. It’s not a problem as much with wealth, but the typical lifestyle portrayed by grind mindset business gurus.
I thrive more in choatic, high energy expieriences, spontaneity, where as rigidity quite literally zaps and depletes me of any life energy lol.
I just need to find a different path to wealth outside of the high ticket space, I’d rather make $40,000 a year serving and bartending then have to sit on another damn zoom call lol.
However, I didn’t mind selling in person, car sales etc, so maybe something more in the promoting/night life space could be more ideal, have some thoughts around branding/building a business in that industry as well.
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A lot of frustration, challenges, and something I always forget about the NSE… experiences this month. I’ve always focused more on how I feel, or act with the subs, that I haven’t been paying attention to a major aspect of what they do, which is the experiences that they are meant to manifest, and what those experiences mean.
This will be the fourth offer that I’ve lost this year, and throughout that time I’ve been craving more stability, while at the same time had this feeling that this is not what I’m meant to be doing. I’ve always known that I need to go the entrepreneur route, but in my mind I was waiting to build the right skill set, and have financial security. I’m taking these experiences as a sign, that I have the skill sets, self belief, and I feel like I’ve finally hit the level of pain, to do things on my own. I’m no longer going to give my financial future/security and stability to another person.
At the same time, I’m really grateful for my journey with sales so far. It’s built me the skill set and foundation to do things on my own, and while I’ve hated the majority of that time, I’m starting to think that was all for a purpose, and getting me to a level of fed the f*** up, to where at this point I have no choice but to take action. I’ve been too content, too comfortable, but with loosing another job, I can honestly say this will be the last month I’m ever going through that process again. I’ll take work to keep me a float, but my mindset and vision are 100% entrepreneurship, and I’ll be full time self employed by the end of the year if it kills me. There would be no worse feeling I could possibly invision, that would be getting to the end of my life and dying working for somebody else. It’s not about the money, or wealth for me. It’s about the time, freedom, and confidence of being self employed.
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