New to subs but not improvement

Questions and Comments
#1

I’ve used binaural beats and a few science based meditation apps before, and I’ve been addressing subconscious programming/biases that don’t serve me directly through my meditation and practicing mindfulness for a few years now. These practices combined with affirmation journaling have helped bring my life to what I consider “a launching pad” for my dream life. I’ve settled on the Khan package and the Diamond ultima to start off my journey with subliminals, and was looking for guidance on putting together a schedule/stack.

Specific goals for myself now are to expand my sphere of influence, improve my capabilities physically, mentally and spiritually, as well as establishing my own empire (homestead). The sexuality of the program is very fitting for me as well as ultimately I feel like I do most of what I do to have more free time to pursue and have sex! Well that’s stretching it a little, but it’s a big motivator lmao.

I’ve done so much work already I’m curious what all of the stages will do with what’s there, and I’m open to any advice on further programs I should consider.

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#2

hey since youre new here welcome dude!

i highly recommend Ascended mogul or ascension

i highly recommend starting with a relatively small sub so you could see how the water feels
and so you can also see quick results and be on the action side very quickly and easily

Khan is a big sub,

start with Ascension or AM, for a month

if you dont like the sub, you can refund it i think and go for khan,

but you wont regert running A good starting foundation sub like Ascension or AM

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#3

Thanks for the advice! I spent a while debating starting with Khan or not, it being “big” gave me pause, but my internal guidance says full steam ahead with it anyway. I’ve lots of time, freedom and space to wrestle with any recon/etc. so the possibilities there aren’t daunting. Oddly enough in my experience with affirmation campaigns I occasionally would encounter resistance much like the “reconciliation” I’ve been reading about here. There’s some deep stuff happening around all this haha.

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#4

Begin with a foundation sub as ascension after a year move onto emperor run it for 3 months.

The above will prepare you for khan.

#5

You want to do Khan so i’d stick with it, I personally think it’s a good program to begin with because it goes through everything including an initial “detoxifying” stage, I think the store page recommends 30 days with each stage but i’d just play it by ear, if you feel like you need longer per stage then go with it.

I’d try and steer clear of buying more subs at this point, it’s easy to fall into the grass is greener on the other side trap.

I’d also read through this, it suggests starting with a single loop every other day and then building on it from there

https://support.subliminalclub.com/knowledge-base/new-listening-pattern-how-many-loops-needed/

#6

the reason i said ascension is for faster results espcially if you struggle with no action and comfort zone issues like i do myself

so a small sub would be effective in terms of pushing you towards a better action and habits

if you think you can take action and youre very proudctive without subs even, id say go with what your heart desires

i myself find a big issue with action and comfort zone and productivity i do my best, but not my full potential, but im working on it :sunglasses:

#7

Procrastination and comfort zone clinging were obstacles I had to tackle early on, sure wish I had subclub back then to help! :stuck_out_tongue:

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#8

if you dont struggle with them much and youre very familiar with working on your goals

easy go with any program

in my opinion

#9

I feel you in this, and you’re in an amazing position. I had lived in a meditation centre for 8 montths before starting subs. I’d committed to learning shadow work. I was in a mens group for 4 years. I had committed to starting a business and had hired a business coach.

I was deep into personal development, which is why I got results so quickly.

I started with Ascended Mogul because I’m entrepreneurial, but if you’re not, then go with Ascension.

There is absolutely NO downside to starting with Ascended Mogul, just like there’s unlimited upside. It is a LIGHTER sub but it’s not a less effective sub. It just has less goals and is more focused purely on alphaness whereas khan is all encompassing.

This is how it feels running a light sub…

  • Faster results
  • results spur action
  • action spurs paradigm changes
  • paradigm changes cement results
  • cemented results make you feel like you ARE ascended.
  • being ascended makes you act like ascension’s goals even easier.
  • infinite positivity loop in your favour

And best of all, Ascension is going to be a lot of what’s in Khan anyways. Like i said, ascension is focused, khan is broad.

It’s like starting with the 50lb weight before moving on to the 100lb weight.

Even if you CAN lift the 100 right away, it’s better to lift the 50 to

  • see how you react to the lighter load
  • warm up
  • strengthen the muscles
  • get good reps in

It’s better to get really amazing results from a light sub than it is to struggle with an extremely difficult sub without first warming up.

Just like how it’s better to get 7 good reps in with a 50lb weight than 1 shitty rep in with a 100lb weight.

I’m 100% confident that you’ll do well on Khan, but basic principles of all action and improvement like exercise and subs starts with warming up, testing your strength, learning before competing, and getting quick wins to add notches to your belt.

Another way to put it…

When you’ve gone through ascension and become more alpha, you’ll have those results locked in.

Rather than khan having to try and teach you how to be alpha AND how to be Khanlike with women, it can just focus 100% on being khanlike with women, because tou already have those goals nailed.

So let ascension give you what it’s designed to give you, and then let khan transform you from an Alpha into a khan.

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#10

Ascension sounds pretty good put that way! I had already downloaded khan but I’ll be wanting it anyway so no worries there.

#11

@Billions 90% of your posts are recommending AscMog at this point :sweat_smile: you convinced me to start with it.

#12

I made a post exactly like this when I first joined subclub.

“New to subliminals, where should I start.”

BOOM…

Everybody recommended me to use ascmog/ascended.

My life changed 1000x as a result.

My business exploded. I went from being a loser to a businessman. I truly understand what “personal power” means now, and I’m living it.

I upgraded to HOM + AM once I was ready for it, and that’s been amazing.

And eventually, I’ll let go of AM completely.

But man starting with the right sub changed my life and I gotta return the favour.

So yes, I always recommend asc/am!

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