Your (and @Fire’s) conscious effort to not rush products and only make them available when they’re of the highest standards possible is to be saluted. Thanks.
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Currently running emperor and iron throne and i want to keep on running iron throne for the next few months. Would you say combining iron throne and khan would be a better stack as khan has more social aspects to it and it follows similar goals where emperor is more lone wolf if needed type sub
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@SaintSovereign, would you say Emperor v3 is still the better choice for solopreneurs?
while Khan will be preferable to those into management, leadership, dealmaking, etc.?
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Would it be wise to assume that since it’s recommended a (subliminal) foundation be set for Emperor in terms of doing for example Ascended Mogul/Ascension + Mogul for 3 - 6 months that a foundation be set for Khan first in doing Emperor for some time since it was mentioned that Khan contains some of Emperor? Would it be wise to dive deep into Khan with no real foundation subliminally? I think your answer here will help guide members on this forum.
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Saint can you add clarity to what you are saying. You said that Khan will bolster your romance life and manifest women. Yet in a later post you say PS is more powerful to enhance your romance life.
If a customer is currently running both emperor and PS in tandem what additional value can Khan bring ?
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Emperor would likely be a more wise choice if you’re wanting to build an empire, and yes Khan is more social. Depends on what you want more.
However, Khan is going to be very intense, so see how you react to it first.
Yes, very much so.
Khan is on the level of Emperor in terms of difficulty, so yes a foundation will be helpful. You can try diving into Khan right away, and it is feasible because of it’s stages, but you need to be ready for everything that comes your way.
Primal Seduction is quite focused on seduction, being nonchalant, being in the moment in your primal masculine core, etc, while Khan is going to bring a massive dominance, power and intensely sexual aspect to it.
You’re not going to be able to dance around it with Khan, so it depends on what you’re going to want to do.
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Can’t wait to see how Khan will be divided and how people will be affected by it! 
Massive Dominance and power… but will social interaction will be crushed by that? Every time I think about those characteristics I think about Emperor which is really powerful but just kills your desire and fun to socialise 
(for me anyway… especially V3)…
Hope Khan will help create a new breed of groupreneurs 
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That sounds perfect. I am waiting for the product launch!
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It’s coming.
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I looked it up and found out about the basics of manifestations, but I am very curious about your theory and especially how it is all connected to subliminals - could not find a lot about that, to be honest. It doesn’t need to be a huge post but some lines would be very very helpful.
Especially if users who are not familiar with it like me, are not using their full potential.
Regards!
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@Fire and @SaintSovereign,
Are emperor v3 softer somehow than v2? I had the impression that was less pushing on me.
With emperor v2, I was horny, I got attention from girls but no focus on business aspects as with ascended mogul…
Do you guys have any explanation for that curious observation?
Thanks.
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Emperor V3 its effects are much faster then its previous incarnation.
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My theory:
There’s usually two ways of manifestations, short-term and long-term. The long-term version is using the Law of Attraction to call something into your sphere of influence, things like perfect lover or job. This can take months, usually 9 and more, because what you need to manifest may very well be one the other side of the world or may not exist yet.
Then there’s short-term manifestation. This is all about focusing your subconscious mind to start seeing opportunities. There’s opportunities for wealth and sex all around us. We just don’t recognize them and as such don’t act on them. Is that girl that chooses to sit down next to you on the bus even though every other seat in the bus is empty going to be the perfect lover? Maybe, maybe not, but there’s potential there if you act on it. How about that friend that keeps talking about starting his own business but never takes that first step? Maybe if you propose to go into business together he will.
Then there’s the magic area. What if your long-term manifestation is actually nearby and can be manifested rapidly? The perfect lover just got out of relationship and is ready to move on. Or the guy holding your perfect job is one month away from retirement? Call it synchronicity, synergy, happy coincidence, luck. Either way, good fortune to you.
I’m guessing since subclub subs are flexible enough that people keep switching that they are mostly geared towards the short term area, with suggestions about manifesting your intended goals just in case you do stick to them long-term.
This is where taking action comes in. If you lock yourself up in your house, you can’t very easily be exposed to opportunities, so you’d need to go out. If you’re really, really attuned to the universe, one day the perfect woman, completely wet from the rain, may ring your doorbell to ask to borrow your phone because her car mysteriously broke down. But even then, you’d need to invite her in and strike up a conversation. If the subs have done their job, you would feel a tingle that tells you to act now.
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I think here is the part where people are confused when it comes to taking action while running subliminals.
To some people, action complements the sub. E.g. when you run a alpha male sub, you must keep on talking to girls to maximize your hit rate. If you run Spartan, you must start going to the gym regularly. To me, that type of action makes running subliminals meaningless. Hell, even if I dont run a subliminal, talking to 100 more girls on the street instead of 3 or going to the gym 3 times a week instead of once a month will of course help me to improve my goals due to better practice and experience. That is basically knocking on more doors and learning to accept being rejected.
To others, taking action means taking some kind of inspired action generated by the manifestation function of the subliminals. It would be like , your buddy who has never been interested in girls asks you to attend a singles event with him and he ends up being your wingman, or you receive some free gym membership with exclusive time with a famous trainer. Isn’t that taking action to reach your goals to?I would think this concept of inspired action is a better indicator of subliminals working.
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You make a valid point. I believe the two types complement one another. If a subliminal tells you it that rejection only makes you better and asks you why it makes you better, then talking to 100 women will obviously support its message. As you stated, the learning process happens even without the subliminal, but the subliminal guides that process by giving your subconscious mind a framework to work within. The subliminal is programming you to learn from rejection and your subconscious isn’t going to go against those instructions, since it will always choose the path of least resistance (just consider people’s comfort zones and habits and how difficult it is to break through them).
And what you call inspired action is indeed what I meant by manifestation. Free gym memberships happen all the time, but how many of us end up taking advantage of them? As for the fact that your buddy finds a sudden interest in women or the fact that there’s a famous trainer that comes with the gym membership, well that might be the universe at work. But it would have taken time to get your buddy in the right frame of mind or to create the trainer’s availability and desire to come to your town. When it comes to the LoA, all parties must benefit, it’s the rule of abundance. And if you’re holed up in a cave on a mountain somewhere, creating the right conditions takes a lot longer than if you’re out and about in a bustling city all the time.
Either way, when opportunity knocks, you still need to answer. There’s no invisible psychokinetic force that picks you up and makes you (although that would be both awesome and terrifying). You need to take the action.
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I remember a story about a guy that realized at some point that he wanted nothing more than a screaming red pickup truck. He’d never seen any on the streets and they seemed impossible to find. He made it his passion and worked towards it with great fervor.
The day came and he went to the dealer, picked up the truck and took it home with him. He was so proud. And then he looked around and realized they were everywhere he looked. They’d always been there, he just never had the laser-like focus that he had when he became so passionate about it.
There’s a part of our brain called the Reticular Activating System. Pretty much the front door into your brain, where all the input of your senses comes in. Its sole job is to ignore everything that you consider irrelevant, put focus on what you find important and to ensure that you aren’t overwhelmed by all the information coming at you. If you start believing in something, be it through subliminals, affirmations or other means, it becomes important to you. At this point, the RAS stops filtering those things out and starts presenting them to you. Allakazam, you start seeing opportunities that help you on your path. Is it manifestation when the opportunities have always been there but you didn’t see them until now? Depends on your definition of manifestation.
Strangely, the sense of smell is the only one that ignores the RAS. Which might be why beginning psychics always start by experiencing smells first.
Hmmm, maybe I should compile all my pages-long posts into an eBook. “Insights of a Dark Philosopher”, now on Amazon. 
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any updates on improving the description of subs and adding objectives and module lists
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Can you name any book on how subliminals work?
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Good question, although maybe not the right thread for it. Short answer: I don’t know if there’s books out there. Sorry. 
There’s books about the principles behind it, I suppose. And books about subliminal advertising. But nothing really about audio subliminals like these. Most of it is still considered pseudo-science and a lot of the research comes from the fields of psychology, hypnosis and NLP. That’s why a lot of it can be found in research papers instead of books. I myself have wondered where people like Saint get the research that leads them from simple scripting to the advanced stuff they use in their programs.
The biggest (and first) thing to learn about is how to talk to your subconscious. A lot of it you can find on the internet (searching for “how to write affirmations” is probably a good start). Things like always be positive, always talk in the present tense, keep your suggestions short and to the point (not everybody agrees on this one), Refrain from using words like “no” and “not” because supposedly they get ignored (“I am not poor” becomes “I am poor”), Instead of “hope”, say “trust” or you’ll give yourself the option that it won’t happen. Same thing for “try”. You don’t try, you “do”. Instead of “decide” use “choose” or you’ll box yourself in (very mind-blowing reasoning behind that). Avoid ambiguity (Murphy’s Law, if anything can be misinterpreted by your subconscious, it will). The word “stop” is very powerful. The word “zero” can be used in place of “no” in certain sentences.
Maybe not all of them actually work, but we might as well implement them just in case. Another good one is to use the form of a question. Very powerful, I could give you a funny exercise you can do to others to prove that point and make some money betting on it if you’re an evil genius.
An advanced application to which I have no answer is the topic of scripting. How can you build a script with 50 pages of suggestions that are stacked in the right order for maximum effectiveness? Should you use first or second person, “I am” vs “You are”? What are the effects of using a machine generated voice, a natural human voice or your own voice? This is something people like Saint have learned, probably from lots of experimentation. Something I want to learn as badly a Gollum wants his precioussss.
How to make them is not that hard, at least not the basic forms. Technically, you can make masked tracks with free software. Ultrasonics may be a bit tougher, depends on whether you need a vocoder-plugin there.
All the other variables, like if brainwave entrainment makes a difference, if you can speed them up or overlap multiple voices and so on are mostly unknowns.
PS There was an experiment where they played music in a liquor store. When they played German music, sales of German wine went up. When they played French music, guess what? We are bombarded with subliminal messages all day long. That’s why mentalists are so awesome.
PPS Technically, the above two examples are caused by supraliminal stimuli, not subliminal. Since your consciousness can perceive them. Just in case some genius lurker thinks this is the right time to speak up and put me in my place.
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Okay, I can’t resist and have to give you a second example. Another video by Derren.
There is a part of our conscious mind that ensures our experience is what we expect. Ever heard the theory that as long as you have the first and last letter of a word correct, your mind will be able to figure out the rest and still read the word (there’s no dyslexia without sexy)? Your conscious mind is better at autocorrection than Google and Microsoft. It does that to ensure your life is exactly what you’d expect, no surprises.
The people in the video are already partially running on auto-pilot (who wouldn’t when you’re window shopping in the mall?). He keeps repeating his message. Notice how he keeps saying “…come right arm up…”? The conscious mind will automatically auto-correct that to “come right on up” because that makes more sense. But the subconscious doesn’t have the same ability. It will take it literally. It takes everything literally. Combine it with words that closely resemble “arm” and “hand” and after 30 minutes everybody was programmed for the words “reach on up and grab”.
Therein lies the power (and importance) of correct language patterns. And the power of the products here. It took Derren 30 minutes to make them raise their hands on cue. Imagine what hours and hours of Subliminal Club will do to you. The reason it takes longer is because SubClub’s “Raise Your Right Hand” product didn’t score so high in the consumer test panel, so their products seek to change you on a larger scale instead.
Okay, enough of me already…
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same! i feel more motivated, i am constantly looking for better job opportunities and thinking about my goals. i dont fear asking for what i want. i have also accepted where i am at in life and am focused on being better. My stresses about certain situations have become much more manageable as well.
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