I also think Stephen King writes too many books and Rumi wrote too many poems but that’s only because it’s more than i can conceivably read in my lifetime and i’m salty
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This, exactly. Not to mention, while we were quite careful with the original RoS, now we have Ethics who will challenge anything in the script that isn’t universalized. This is a tough title to upgrade. Currently, I’m leaning toward what many of you have said – take the current script, upgrade it to ZPU exactly, add all the new tech and the new build.
As @Malkuth stated, most of us (myself included) never maxed out the original RoS. And with the new tech and build, it will be much easier to use, generate better results and will be easier to understand.
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wait, WHAT?!?!?!
I know Wu Wei isn’t manifestation, at least not in the new age sense but it is sorta in the same space?
Or is it more aligning with the flow of life? (which is still in the same space IMO)
Either way DROP IT PLZ
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It is a weird criticism. With the clearly structured shop, the vibe check, different product families and distinctive traits, where is the harm? I get that there is no need to re-do titles (like Everything Painted Black) but with a unique concept it should be a gain.
FOMO will strike anyway.
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Yes please do this. Most of these suggestions do not belong in this title.
However, some would make great modules that individuals can use in a NEM or custom to give RoS a direction that resonates with them.
For me I’d deeply love a nature module since my spirituality is deeply tied to that.
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So, it’s essentially the concept of Wu Wei synergized and filtered through Western style nervous system regulation. Wu Wei is the philosophical container it was built upon.
I had qOS create a quick write up on it – the title is named PEACE:
PEACE is concerned with the part of you that cannot stop pushing. Not your sadness, not your coldness, but your effort — the ceaseless inner labor of forcing, gripping, striving, and controlling that most of us mistake for simply being alive. We have been taught that life is something to be wrestled into shape: that we must press harder against every task, hold tighter to every outcome, and meet each day braced as if against an opponent. PEACE draws on the oldest answer the Taoist sages ever gave to this exhaustion — wu wei, the principle of effortless action.
Their radical claim was that the deepest accomplishment comes not from forcing but from ceasing to force. Water asks nothing and fights nothing; it yields to every obstacle, and precisely in its yielding, it carves the canyon. PEACE is the study of that same paradox in a human life — how to act fully without strain, to move with the grain of things rather than against it, and to discover that the war you have been waging against the moment was never the source of your strength, only the source of your fatigue.
What sets PEACE apart is where it finally takes you: not toward a brighter feeling (like Summertime), but toward a still center — the unmoved point at the heart of all the turning. This is not the warmth of a good day or the lift of high spirits, both of which depend on conditions being right. It is equanimity: the steadiness that holds when the day goes wrong, when the demands crowd in, when the storm refuses to pass.
PEACE works at the deepest level of the body, helping a nervous system that has forgotten how to stop forcing remember its own stillness — so that calm is no longer a state you must achieve and defend, but the ground you simply stand on. Where other paths add something to you, PEACE quietly takes something away: the strain, the grasping, the endless inner contention. And what remains when the forcing finally falls silent is not emptiness, but the thing the striving was always chasing and never could catch — a peace that needs no reason, and asks for no effort at all.
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You’ve just created a demand… shameless plug!
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Yes, I agree. Many of these, I have no problem turning into modules.
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Could this be as effective as Regeneration at healing the nervous system but without real “healing” at all?
Reminds me somewhat of Genesis’ “healing through dissolution” scripting.
And of course this strikes me as the core of GLM created into an entire title, which is incredible.
This also finally completes the brahmavihara title roster:
Equanimity - Peace
Loving-Kindness - LBFH
Compassion - Chosen From Within
Sympathetic Joy - Summertime
(CFW is the weakest 1-1 connection, the other 3 are perfect, but in my eyes CFW is an incredible compassion title because compassion isn’t just about feeling someone’s pain it’s about helping/leading them because you care so much - it’s very much the most external of the brahmivaharas)
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What was you’re experience with it?
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Difficult to explain, as with all of these types of titles. They all have a lot of depth and words don’t quite do it justice. Even writing copy for them is difficult, as they all sound similar, but have very different effects. But, I will try. If you’ve used Summertime or LBfH, there is the obvious nervous system regulation effect, but then this subtle warmth and joy (Summertime) or compassionate love for yourself and others (LBfH) that emerges that you can feel somatically.
This is different. Rather than this sort of new, deeply instilled emotion that persists, this is more… well, peace. Rather than the “gentle wall” that you can feel on GLM and Dragon Reborn: Regeneration, where you can quietly and softly observe emotions without experiencing them (in a matter of speaking, if you’ve run GLM, you know what I mean), this is more like the emotions just flow through you without resistance and then dissipates.
So, while GLM and Dragon Reborn: Regeneration is about observing, Peace is about release. Rather than “becoming,” you gain this sense of “I already am.” It is great for meditation, energetic cultivation or anything that requires you to become calm, or flow, quiet the mind – any of those concepts.
Action taking became easier, since the inner critic is largely silent. There’s a lot less inner processing going on as well, especially when compared to Dragon Reborn: Regeneration. More… acceptance, lol. I know, it sounds cryptic – very difficult to explain.
Rather than mining the emotions for meaning, meaning comes through the release and the forward progression of life, flowing with it and finding insight in every situation, regardless of whether it’s a “good event” or “bad event” that occurs.
I will say my favorite two features are:
The Deep Stillness
Helps you reach the living quiet beneath the noise — the vast, restful silence that was always there underneath your thoughts. Not the brittle silence of a held breath, but a depth that asks nothing and restores everything.
This becomes a wellspring you can return to at will. The constant low activation that had become your baseline finally, fully releases, and you rise from it calmer and clearer than before.
Peace as the Natural Way (Ziran)
Helps peace settle in as your baseline self — ziran, being so of itself, without effort. The goal of this entire journey: not a calm you must maintain, but a calm you simply live from, so natural you stop noticing you’re at peace at all.
In your life, this is the quiet arrival. Stress still comes and passes; the ten thousand things still rise and fall. But peace is no longer something you do. It is simply who you’ve become.
And honestly, that’s what it feels like. Or at least, that’s what could be achieved.
See, that’s the thing – it doesn’t feel like “healing.” It feels like “peace.” Acceptance. “It is what it is.” “Life will do as it pleases, I will flow with it.” It’s that vibe. Feels very courageous, too. Deep sense of discovery has emerged, but I wouldn’t say “childlike imagination.” Feels very mature. Like a mature sense of exploration and discovery is emerging.
I could literally feel my nervous system releasing deep rooted junk while meditating. I’d suddenly get super hot, feel a wave of negative emotion and then it would just pass, especially if I didn’t attach to it, which the script makes easy.
There’s no co-regulation in the script (although, co-regulation occurs naturally between people), and yet @Fire identified when I was testing the title without me telling him. We were sitting there working, and he suddenly says with a smirk, “What’d you do?”
I feigned ignorance and he remarked that my energy had shifted, and was very “chill.” That’s when I let him know that I had been quietly testing it.
So yeah, that was a bit all over the place.
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Dude, PLEASE drop this.
It’s the end-state nervous system regulation sub imo.
Would definitely swap Summertime for PEACE with my current goals
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How would this do with name embedded Reforged or Synergy: The Golden One. It sounds like it’ll make the other titles more effective quicker. Yeah, test is fine but if you set it as a major title I am all in. I ask because all of the titles I’ve purchased was in an effort to reach that… Peace.
I have not read through this thread so apologies if I reiterate something already said but I’d love for this title to give the user the ability to REST in the absolute/present moment/NOW… I know its unpopular but I’d love a sub that gives a stronger focus on being able to do NOTHING.
I dont think we have a spiritual sub that focuses on that although subs like alchemist/CWON and even GLM help with that…however for some of us spiritually thats the path that appeals; think ramana maharsha/nisargadatta maharaj/robert adams etc…itd be nice to have a sub that focuses on pure being-ness.
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lol just saw this; this would be PERFECT and what I envision when I hear revelation of the spirit; not something flashy but the revelation of the fulfillment inherent in one’s own being…I’d buy this in a heartbeat.
Release it right MEOW please 
Edit - Don’t mean that to sound demanding, mostly wanted to work “MEOW” into it because I am so excited haha
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Coming from an understanding of Wu Wei, I understand exactly what you mean and think I can imagine what would happen internally pretty precisely based off this description.
Buddhism calls this concept “emptiness,”
i like the idea of “neither resistance nor non-resistance” aka “neither resisting nor chasing”
Stillness has a self at the center of the chaos, but emptiness is a removal from the entire field of “Mind & Body” … awareness remains, as it is not a part of the “mind” concept, and then it becomes “empty awareness”
The Jhanas themselves took me a long time to understand, because the 8th jhana is “neither perception nor non-perception” (of reality) which is like woah what the HECK does that mean - but then I had a similar experience in a psychedelic state and had a state of “neither perception nor non-perception” which can simply be called “neither aware nor unaware”
Aka YOU are not aware, but there is awareness that still exists despite the lack of a self with which to be aware from. So “YOU” are not aware, but “YOU’RE” also not UNAWARE because there IS a level of awareness.
Back to subliminals - “stillness” to me would be about hearing the inner critic and being totally impervious to it. Emptiness would be about the inner critic being replaced by emptiness (disappearing)
What are your thoughts at the moment about this or other Revelation series products embodying in the upgrade aspects of the flow state scripting and nervous system cultivation ideas from some of the more recent products?
The more I’ve thought about it, the more it seems to make sense that a journey of unfolding or discovery such as those products are meant to embody would benefit greatly from the user being nudged in the direction of deeper engagement with the process and its flow. As well as the reception of wisdom from the conscious-subconscious channel that’s in other subs which you talked about elsewhere.
Beyond that, I think I would be on board with the idea of changing very little from the initial title, and just adding the upgraded build/tech and building out the existing ideas a bit.
I like RV’s idea of wu-wei too, but translating into the idea of being able to choose to consciously align with the interconnectedness of all things mentioned in the copy and to choose to harmonize with that flow when conditions feel right, or some equivalent concept like “aligning with the field”. It would I imagine be pretty easy to take the existing interconnectedness angle and just build out the idea of fully embodying/innerstanding that concept and unfolding a process of learning and discovery to find the user’s ideal method of interacting with that hidden truth/reality, dissolving blockages that are in the way of achieving the ideal alignment, etc.
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“WANTED Wu Wei” ?
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Also Wu Wei for the Astral Projection X upgrade, since most people fail because they cannot relax their physical body and try too hard.
Astral projection also becomes easier for people who have come to peace with the idea of “accepting death” and “competely letting go”.
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