Minimizing pain, maximizing results

Questions and Comments
#1

I felt like making this post because I feel like with ZP it’s important this is emphasized.

As a community we should encourage the most effective way to get results without going through intense recon. These subs should be tools to enhance your life, not slam you down and drag you through the mud while trying to grow. That’s old world mentality. Just because something is difficult doesn’t make it inherently better.

While we can all congratulate ourselves making it through dark episodes, I don’t think it should be encouraged to go through those or set up the expectation that this is what needs to happen for growth. And when someone doesn’t want to experience those things I think it’s perfectly fine. Instead of telling them to power through, alternative strategies should be proposed. Everyone is at a different place, what’s doable for you may not be doable for another person at that point in time.

If you grow at a rate of say 2x and another grows at 10x, you’re still growing. It’s better to continue at that rate of 2x vs pushing yourself for 10x and causing massive issues in your life.

Now a caveat here is that if you personally want to go through a very difficult challenge, that’s fine. Some people do well with that. All I’m proposing is we not make that the default approach.

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#2

No one is Trully forced to go through anything :wink:

If one want to go slower without a lot of recon it’s perfectly fine and many are going by that way already

The opposite is true too, if one want to grow through mud and break walls then so be it

Like you said growth is growth, anyone should feel free to do his way, and honestly you shouldn’t feel concerned by that at all

I think you’re being a bit dragged along by someone who likes mud lol there always was encouragement for both ways, just that recently the mud path shined a bit more because of a few member

But those same members really couldn’t care less what you choose to do lol

They’d ultimately would feel greater if you’re doing what’s true to you without mindlessly following them :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Just saying that to anyone feeling like the mud path is taking too much place, you don’t have to

Don’t compare, promote yours that’s it

I don’t even know Wich path I’m on I just know it’s mine LoL

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#3

For sure man. Just felt like throwing this out there. I’m thinking of when I first started here and what would have helped me. I know I’m not the only one who’s struggled in life.

It’s true nobody is forced to do anything here by anybody. It’s more how the mind interprets things and mixes with past experience and beliefs. I know personally it can hit a raw nerve of that not doing or trying hard enough for me.

It’s all been said one way or another. But it’s scattered among various forum posts and more internal knowledge. I just wanted to create a more noticeable place for it.

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#4

Point: Go Slow and Steady
Those who have a mediocre to superior lives rarely even bother to search for self-help things, like my father who is a crrrazy ALPHA with the pure power of his will(not perfect though).

#5

Fewer loops.

More rest days.

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#6

Curious to know what you’re doing these days with ZP schedule wise? I know with Qv2 you were also very big on rest days.

#7

Thank you for asking. I take more rest days than with Qv2. I still think rest days are just as important as listening days.

I listen about twice a week.

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#8

This topic reminds me of this:

It also takes into account how hard these actions are and finds the ones with the highest rate of investment of your time, money, etc., but with the least resistance to it. Utilize this module to create a path of least resistance and highest possible ROI towards your goals. Keep in mind that challenges are sometimes instrumental tools in achieving greatness

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#9

@RVconsultant Definitely got some more to consider about my usage of ZP. There’s always that fear hanging around that I’m not doing enough and I push beyond my means.

@Malkuth That module slipped right past me. I guess I saw ROI and thought of financial stuff so my mind filtered it out. But that seems really useful.

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#10

What is your currently listening schedule?

#11

Right now I’m on my 5 day washout. But before that I was just listening every other day. New alternative schedule I’m going to explore is 1 day on 2 days off.

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#12

How about 1 day on 3 days off?

#13

Sure I’ll definitely give that a shot.

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#14

I can ensure that it works just fine 1 on 3 off
Did that for almost a month

Never quite saw any recon at all
The worst I had is insight on where I could improve lol

So nothing bad at all

Peaceful ride

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#15

@Avengers68 @vivekarora83

Please see above post.

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#16

Thanks for sharing the post,
I have completed 21 days with Khan Stage 2 today (first round).
Tomorrow begins 5 days of washout period.

By the threads I have read, we don’t feel anything during first two stages of Khan, the real game begins at stage 3.

After 5 days of washout, I will be starting with stage 2 again for round two.

When we apply the rule of listening to 1 day and 3 days off, then we actually listen for only 5 times in 21 days.

Don’t you think it will drastically slow down the results ? May be we don’t even see any results ?
What are we supposed to do in that case ?

I want to get results, and not experiment which can lead to failure…

@RVconsultant @Melior @Malkuth @Fractal_Explorer

#17

If you go for such a patern you can postpone the washout to 30 days or only do a washout between different stage IMHO

Slow them ? Maybe a bit but you’ll still will definitly have result maybe more than your used to depending on how you assimilate the sub, just with less recon

#18

1 day listening and 1 day break pattern for 21 days gives you 11 loops.

1 day listening and 3 days break for 30 days gives only 8 loops.

Is this better to lose 3 loops ?

#19

With ZP people are reporting less is more. Maybe listen to 7 minutes per program instead of the 15 minutes. Listening to fewer loops.

What if your current listening schedule was slowing down your results?

Enter a support ticket for further guidance if that happens.

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#20

You don’t see it the right way, it’s about minimizing recon

It the same as saying listening 9 times in 3 days wouldn’t it be less good than
Once every other day but it’s only 2 loops in 3 days and yet you don’t loose 7 loops
You just gain the ability to not be in full recon mode or even stonewalling

It all comes down to personnal processing

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