Would it be effective to start off a sub say today on the 2nd using 30 secs and then wait 4-5 days then add a min, take 4-5 days, then add another min and so forth till you reach the 15mins
would that be effective
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Let me ask the same question but with a different thing
Would it be effective to start off with 20kg bench press, then wait 4-5 days, add 15kg, take 4-5 days, then add 15 kg, and so forth until you reach 100 kg? Would that be effective?
Could be, if you are able to progress with this speed. And if you aren’t, then no, it won’t be effective
The idea of progressive microloops is the same as exercising with working weight and increasing it as you get stronger. Are you able to hit 12 reps with 20kg bar? If yes, increase weight. If no, stay at it for longer. Same with subs - are you able to listen to 30s without recon? If yes, increase exposure; if not - stay at it for longer
everyone’s different and each blockage that you need to reconcile is different too. Some can take minutes to reconcile, some can take weeks, and potentially even longer - depends on you.
But eventually, if you keep using microloops at sweet spot (=keep going to the gym and educating yourself about training, as an analogy), taking action (=doing the exercises), journaling (=tracking progress) - you will grow stronger
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I love that analogy. I was asking because support told me to follow a 3-1 schedule of 3 days on and 1 day off, starting with 30secs and then moving to 1min the days with 3 days on again and 1 day off again, adding another 30sec and so forth…continuing this pattern till you reach 15 mins… so thats why I had to inquire if the following schedule would work also. But I think you’re right tho, best to take it slow and let the results build over time. I do have a tendency to rush the process especially when I’m not noticing the results I’m expecting.
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that’s weird tbh. I haven’t seen Saint or Fire recommend similar schedules to anyone yet. I only know that Saint was testing 4 days on 4 days off schedule but he said not to try it yet
I had it but honestly it fixed itself. I think the desire to rush the process and listen too much is recon. Whenever I notice that I want to listen more, I actually need to take a step back, reduce exposure and the desire to listen more will disappear
Or else, I’ll listen more, get into bad recon and will change my stack lol. Remember, from the support articles, “reconciliation is basically any symptom that makes you NOT run the sub” (paraphrasing a bit)
EDIT: similar thing here:
@AnswerGroup Do you know about this?
Not that I’m tempted to listen so often. I rather add break days.
Just asking because it feels kinda off.
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My experience has been more consistent listening is better. It needs to be a balanced approach between consistent repetition and not overloading yourself. (Most hypnotists say repetition is more important, yet other advanced hypnotists say even one single suggestion can be rooted in the subconscious mind—but this requires you to hit a certain depth and have power behind it so that it roots itself).
I think this is especially true (the repetition concept) whenever you are integrating new concepts or experiencing reconciliation with programs. The consistent repetitions are important to overwrite older programs which may reject or dominate the new programming, it gives you the constant input so that you gain momentum that has more power than the moment of non-constructive programs and believe systems.
If you run once every 4-5 days my experience has been this is not good enough you will be in a reconciliation between old and new, whereas daily or every other day usage provides more of the new to become solidified within yourself. Just to clarify I think this is only relevant in the beginning fase where you are trying to establish new programming. If you have done 12 months with a program, for sure it will have gained so much depth and integration that after 4-5 days or even 4-5 months you will not fall back upon a previous layer of programming. If you stop listening you will just fall back upon the structure you have created.
If you listen once then wait 4-5 days it sinks into deeper levels of the subconscious as time passes, but to my knowledge whenever you listen fresh it fills that barrier between conscious and subconscious to establish the new state again whenever the old begins to reject whatever new input you gave it.
Overtime this may become less and less relevant as you will build a grandiose structure beneath the surface that will already resonate with the input you are giving your subconscious mind.
I think all of this, including reconciliation, is only a huge concern once you are at the beginning of trying to build something or transform something, once your building is somewhat complete you can now begin to work with it and achieve very good results.
All of these are my own concepts so take what resonates.
To me the mind is just layers upon layers of programming and memory. Much like a computer. The software of a computer can only do two things, upgrade to a higher more proficient version, or alter the programs and programming. Same thing with the mind, I think.
But if you upgrade the software usually the hardwire upgrades needs to be conform with the new levels of processing and computing power that is required by the software. Perhaps this is where most peoples nervous systems are not up to par, including my own. (Hence processing overload). Like having task manager running at full throttle and so many background processes creating lag in the system. Computer overheating etc,… the need for water and cooling down.
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thought the same thing and I asked a follow up question but still waiting on the response
You learn something knew every day, I didn’t even know that was a thing. I’ll try to be more mindful of it
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