By stacking with this
Yeah, that’s a good point.
But I’m talking specifically about the industry that sells bots and algorithmic systems. The person buys it and, at their own risk, tests the strategy.
That’s the scenario I mean. How can someone know the basics well enough to make decisions in this kind of situation — without necessarily having to become a bot programmer, you know?
Ideally you’d know by checking which strategy they do
could help with manifesting mentor or strategy, or nuggets of information and maybe even bots that makes shit tons of money.
I guess since it’s market related, or bot related, would activate your mind to take in the knowledge from it. I’m pretty sure Saint got something in store for all of us with Rich Trader.
We’re in need of a new tease this week 
Edit : @Akin I’ve been thinking, there could definitly be some feature in RT which helps understanding market from an algorithm perspective, and translate on how to define algorithmic rules from how the market moves.
Then, that feature could integrate perfectly and latch on to things like Index Gate for people wanting to go deeper into programming complex trading bot.
Will this synergize well or work in a custom with Index Gate?
I’m sure it will be included so many people requested it and like it was mentionned earlier, algorithmic trading is also very popular. Probably after Paragon’s release we’ll get more info on what’s happening with Rich Trader 
Oh yes, thing to add with the Winning mindset and or emotionnal management - keep it playful and light.
I remember reading something about fighthers (I think in a interview with GSP) who kept it playful when they sparred to prevent injury and keep a fun mindset. Apparently it’s better for the brain retention, memory and execution. Basically, you learn faster and execute better when your brain is in playing mode and thinks it’s a fun game.
Interesting video on this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twE-zdUkB_U
Here is the interview with GSP : https://youtu.be/-8mNbCR9ClU?si=RNIa6DUWIEnOkPs7&t=209
Needs to be implemented into Rich Trader. Make trading a game, activate the “play” part of the brain and reap all the benefits associated with it while still trying to win. There is a big similarity between trading and high levels athletic performance.
Edit : With this title half of the subclub’s user base will become trader xD
Quazi Johir’s thoughts:
What if I told you the hardest working traders are the ones losing money, and the “laziest” traders are making six figures a day?
I have spoken with 18 and 19 year old kids who roll out of bed at 9:29 AM, and the market opens at 9:30. They do not meditate, journal, or cold plunge. Heck, most of them just smoke weed all day and play video games.
BUT they take one trade, make 100K, and go back to playing Call of Duty for the rest of the week.
Meanwhile, I see disciplined traders who plan their days perfectly, follow every rule, work 12 hours a day studying charts, and still blow their accounts month after month.
These “lazy” kids understand something that the disciplined traders do not. They treat trading like a video game. They already feel entitled to the money.
They do not associate hard work with reward. They just see the setup, take it, and move on. No emotion or attachment. Not even a slight hint of trying to prove something.
Here is what these processes looks like at the Identity level:
→ “Hard work = Success” is a belief that keeps most accounts blown. When you believe you must work hard (or frequently) to deserve money, you overtrade and force setups that aren’t even supposed to be there.
→ Entitlement is not arrogance, it is the absence of doubt. These kids do not question whether they deserve the money, so their nervous system stays calm and, ultimately, they execute clean.
The disciplined traders are trying to earn their success through suffering. The lazy kids just expect it to show up.
100% agreeing with that identity shift, needs to be in RT!
I’ll check your video soon.
Yeah… I’ll watch it again, actually. This guy is really good — very grounded and disruptive. Also very rich.
That’s really great that you mentioned it! I believe the state of mind for operations becomes smoother, without internal and external pressure.
What’s the idea of his identity shift? Identity of a winner? Profitable trader? How does that work?
Is this going to be a module?
Yes! Winner mindset.
“I AM a winner.”
“I AM profitable.”
“and I don’t need to fight to be those things .”
I believe, based on the video and other sources, that identity shifting is the process of consciously stepping into a new version of yourself at the level of identity, rather than trying to force better results only through effort or strategy.
In the context of trading, it means shifting from seeing yourself as someone who is trying to become profitable to someone who already identifies as a profitable, emotionally stable, process-driven trader.
The core idea behind this comes from what the speaker calls the “law of becoming.” Everything in life is constantly changing form — nothing is static. Just as matter changes states and living beings evolve through cycles, we as individuals are always “becoming” someone.
The real question is whether that process is unconscious, driven by past conditioning and fear, or conscious, directed by who we decide to become. Identity shifting is about taking control of that direction and making that leap.
Most traders stay stuck because their internal identity hasn’t changed, even if their knowledge has. They may learn new strategies, risk models, or psychological techniques, but deep down they still see themselves as inconsistent, unlucky, emotional, or “not quite there yet.”
That hidden self-image quietly drives their behavior under pressure. When stress hits, they don’t act from rules — they act from identity, and the charts end up reflecting who they believe they are.
The model described in the video moves through three layers: being, doing, and having. Most people focus on having (profits, payouts, account growth) and then on doing (taking more trades, working harder, learning more systems).
But the deeper layer is being — the identity that naturally produces certain behaviors. When someone truly feels like a capable trader, patience, selectivity, and emotional control arise more naturally. The actions stop being forced and start feeling consistent with “who I am.”
A key part of identity shifting is having a clear internal declaration about the kind of trader you are becoming.
This is not just a performance goal, but an identity statement — a repositioning of self-concept. Resistance might show up in the form of doubts, fears, and repeated emotional patterns. Instead of fighting those reactions, the process involves acknowledging and allowing the feelings to be there without letting them dictate behavior. By accepting and releasing these emotional responses, the old identity gradually loses its grip.
As this shift stabilizes, trading becomes less about emotional survival and more about aligned execution. Losses are no longer interpreted as personal failure, and wins don’t create emotional overexcitement that leads to overtrading. The trader begins to operate from a steadier internal baseline. The change is less about adding new techniques and more about becoming someone for whom winning behavior feels normal.
Well, I’m still not sure. But we suggested many things at the beginning of this thread. I suggested something similar: ‘Profitable trader identity.’
Yeah that’s exactly where I am stuck. When I win, I win… I feel eventually my identity pulls me back and I start sabotaging myself.
Not sure exactly where to start that identity change, but I sure hope Rich Trader will have solid support for that.
That’s wierd for me, it’s like everytime I did those type of things my inner voice pulled me down hard, and kept going for long. Make sure I stayed down.
Well throw in there the $100K a day, pattern recognition, right place, right time, detached to outcome type of thing cause how this is laid out changes everything that we’ve been taught… it’s as if children cracked the code and as parents we can not guide them because the world as we knew no longer exists… but we still need to navigate this new world.
Yeah… exactly! We need to learn how to navigate this new world.
Hi, @SaintSovereign and @Fire, considering that RICH Trader was mentioned in C&C description, is it about to be released, or is it far yet?
Should be next after the paragon titles.
A safe GUESS would be 2-3 weeks