Main Idea Thread: Heartsong

I salute you. 🫡

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Look at the tagline of Heartsong. “Meet Your Soulmate, Forge Stronger Bonds With Existing Partners Subliminal”

Again. The current Heartsong Isn’t limited to finding you a soulmate. If you were in a relationship with someone who isn’t your soulmate, it’s going to try and fix that relationship.

It’s not limited in finding you that one in a million special someone who lives on another planet. It’s going to do its best based on the options you have in your vicinity. So it doesn’t really matter how rare it is to find a soulmate with the current Heartsong.

Dude, I agree. Why waste time and energy on someone who won’t be your life partner? But that version of Heartsong would have to promise and guarantee finding you that one in a million person. It would have to do butterfly effect level manifestation for that to happen.

There would be one objective.

“Move Heaven and Earth to find your ONE, TRUE Soulmate.”

I love the idea, but it sounds like they’re trying to fix the current version, not double down on the concept of a soulmate.

If they do drop the concept, I think they should definitely reintroduce it in a new sub. Something like “True Love” or “Endless Love” for those who do want to find that one true love.

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I agree. I’m also of the opinion that maybe we have more than one soulmate… Maybe there’s SEVERAL potential soulmates within your vicinity, and this sub will help you to find them, connect with them, and give them the impression that YOU are also their soulmate or at least someone they deeply connect with more than anyone else (or almost anyone else).

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I like this definition and it fits into what I’d look for when running heartsong:

The true meaning of a soulmate is not a magical, effortless savior who completes you, but a companion who mirrors your inner growth, challenges your personal evolution, and commits to building a grounded, shared life with mutual effort.

I think thats a beautiful and succint way of putting it

And really does not need to be more than that

Other ideas:

  • you feel as if you’ve known each other before
  • you feel like you are ‘coming home’ rather than going on a rollercoaster
  • you complement each other (your weaknesses are there strengths and vice versa) but in a way that brings beautiful harmony to the household
  • you push each other
  • your partner grows with you

These are the kinds of things that would make my “heart sing” for someone

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Maybe it can be 2 stager title

Yeah, I think so too

Feels like a lot to cover in just one title

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I mentioned earlier that this is definitely a possibility. If more people like the idea of a two stager, speak up. I’m not too keen on one stage being just “healing” and the other “manifestation.” Rather than “healing,” I’m thinking more “Heartsong: Reforged” (THEMATICALLY), using the Reforged concept of being able to help you develop the inner conditions for this type of romance.

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Heartsong ZPU has the potential to address a key issue surrounding long term relationships.

There’s an unfortunate pattern in the figures of speech we use to describe long-term relationships: ‘locked down,’ ‘tied down,’ ‘settled,’ ‘the old ball and chain,’ and so on. Many of these expressions linguistically associate commitment with confinement, restriction, or loss of freedom.

I’m hoping the new Heartsong can help the user cultivate and reinforce a stronger sense of individuality, freedom, and personal sovereignty within the context of a long term relationship. Where the user (and their partner) feel more fully themselves because of the relationship, rather than less themselves within it.

This could ease many of the fears people have around surrendering themselves to the depths of romantic love Heartsong aims to facilitate. The underlying message could be that deep intimacy doesn’t require the surrender of one’s identity or freedom, and instead two people can become more fully themselves while remaining deeply connected to one another.

@SaintSovereign

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Love this idea.

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Another idea: Have Heartsong make one driven to find their partner. I think there are also many who have gotten used to being single (and happy), which plays another factor in making it hard to move forward.

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I like the idea of a reforged heartsong as like a ST1. I’m pretty sure this was mentioned and is already a focus in OG Heartsong or under consideration for ZPU Heartsong but a focus on attachment styles. I was never really a secure attachment, always a more anxious and avoidant although I have had two instances in the past month that proves I have improved drastically since starting Peace, I still need work in this area. Btw my results have been more detached to the outcome and I decided to genuinely walk away from both situations for very good reasons, where as I would have held on in the past and caused myself more pain.

@SaintSovereign i believe you mentioned this already but I think Peace should have some influence in the ZPU upgrade. I also wanna say that as someone who has been negatively affected by my toxic anxious/avoidant attachment styles for a good portion of my life I think an upgrade like this would end up having a positive effect in other areas in not only my life but some other users as well.

Either way I think Heartsong ZPU is going to be another lightning strike and the results are going to exceed expectations.

Peace is definitely going to influence it. Personally, I can’t get enough of this title. I was looking forward to running True Sell myself, as my marketing and sales skills have fallen off because I’m so focused on product development now, but the effects of Peace are steamrolling. Don’t want to lose the momentum.

I’ve been mining the script to see exactly what can crossover in an effective manner.

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Is Heartsong the next title to be (re-)released?

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Not Saint but I low key hope so lmao, wasnt planning on running Heart Song but with everything I am seeing in this page I might make it a part of my stack.

I would like so. I’m currently working on it. Things are a bit slow while @Fire is dealing with an emergency. I’m also taking a short creative break. That Peace / True Sell combo wiped me out, but this thread is turning out to be quite helpful. Keep the ideas coming, everyone.

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Lol Even during your breaks, you vicariously work through us. I salute you sir. Also I hope everything is good with Fire

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:eyes: oh? You’re working on this title?

'Tis true.

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I’ve also become excited for heart song.

At this exact point in my life, I would want it to be the title that helps me have the full faith and confidence that I’m going to find my dream partnership

Without settling for anything less

Of course, if I think someone could be a a dream partner for me, I’d want to give them the full chance, without any worrying or attachment to whether or not it truly works out

But I’m willing to sacrifice lesser relationship relationships while I wait for greater ones

That means no more compromising for casual sex that doesn’t come with a deep, emotional connection, and that means a little bit of a Khan Black style cultivation of my sexual energy towards greater control, less leakage, and more towards what I’m trying to manifest and create

Whether it’s in a relationship or while I’m single, I’m sick of looking, staring, OK I’ll be honest, completely fucking gawking and head spinning at every hot girl that walks past me and momentarily basing myself worth on whether or not I would have the balls to approach her “if I even wanted to” AND whether or not in that fantasy, she would respond to me positively or negatively

I want heart song to be the title that teaches me how to love myself so well that I feel confident that I would love someone in a relationship just as well, and they feel confident about it as well

I don’t wanna manifest the person so much as the beliefs in the lifestyle and the freedom from fears. I’d want to manifest the ideal lifestyle for myself in terms of where I wanna live, the job I have, a friend group I have, and the hobbies I have in my life because I have experience in the past situations where I feel like I found the right person at the wrong time

I would want to feel like running heart song gives me the social and seduction and physical attraction benefits of other seduction titles without making me so women focused…

To me, I have this belief that finding my soulmate takes a lot of patience and saying no, maybe that belief is wrong, but I’ve spent pretty much my entire life in relationships That were good for the moment not good for the long-term. That’s why I’d still want to develop my social and sexual skills without manifesting a high quantity of women. I wouldn’t really want opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to meet my soulmate… that would make me feel like none of them were my soulmate, and that all of them were just girls I was flirting with… I’d want to develop the temperance and discernment to wait until I met somebody that I really thought deserved relationship energy and then to immediately strike while the iron is hot without needing a bunch of warm-up or practice beforehand

I’d want heart song to help me cultivate friendships where people say that I’m a great guy and I would be a great partner and they have no idea why I’m single and they introduce me to their friends and their friend groups in a way that makes me look cuffable - especially when it comes to having warm introductions to my friends’ gorgeous friends.

I’ll be honest I know I want my dream partnership, but I couldn’t even really tell you what that is either … yes I want the freedom to live my life, but I also want to be clear in my values, beliefs, and preferences, otherwise I’d just be asking somebody to follow me wherever I go without me being able to tell them clearly where I actually want to go to give them an opportunity to imagine their future with me and see if it’s what they want

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Well, i think manifesting a ‘soulmate’ is such a big topic and i think many people have l
Like me limiting beliefs and blockages regardit so maybe 2 stager might be helpful.

And to be honest if i give myself as example, in my shoes i dont see realistic to run a sub and have soulmate suddenly, beacause i have not so much money, im a student, i dont have much experience with woman, i dont trust people too much and self worth issues i guess. Will heartsong cover this things?

Yeah i know i can run another subliminals for this issues, but i want to run a subliminal and then have a
‘Soulmate’.

And also i think social media and stuff have changed people’s relationships a lot. Sometimes i feel dark about it


Ps: And saint why my posts need to be apporved before they are posted??