Is Heartsong the next title to be (re-)released?
Not Saint but I low key hope so lmao, wasnt planning on running Heart Song but with everything I am seeing in this page I might make it a part of my stack.
I would like so. I’m currently working on it. Things are a bit slow while @Fire is dealing with an emergency. I’m also taking a short creative break. That Peace / True Sell combo wiped me out, but this thread is turning out to be quite helpful. Keep the ideas coming, everyone.
Lol Even during your breaks, you vicariously work through us. I salute you sir. Also I hope everything is good with Fire
oh? You’re working on this title?
'Tis true.
I’ve also become excited for heart song.
At this exact point in my life, I would want it to be the title that helps me have the full faith and confidence that I’m going to find my dream partnership
Without settling for anything less
Of course, if I think someone could be a a dream partner for me, I’d want to give them the full chance, without any worrying or attachment to whether or not it truly works out
But I’m willing to sacrifice lesser relationship relationships while I wait for greater ones
That means no more compromising for casual sex that doesn’t come with a deep, emotional connection, and that means a little bit of a Khan Black style cultivation of my sexual energy towards greater control, less leakage, and more towards what I’m trying to manifest and create
Whether it’s in a relationship or while I’m single, I’m sick of looking, staring, OK I’ll be honest, completely fucking gawking and head spinning at every hot girl that walks past me and momentarily basing myself worth on whether or not I would have the balls to approach her “if I even wanted to” AND whether or not in that fantasy, she would respond to me positively or negatively
I want heart song to be the title that teaches me how to love myself so well that I feel confident that I would love someone in a relationship just as well, and they feel confident about it as well
I don’t wanna manifest the person so much as the beliefs in the lifestyle and the freedom from fears. I’d want to manifest the ideal lifestyle for myself in terms of where I wanna live, the job I have, a friend group I have, and the hobbies I have in my life because I have experience in the past situations where I feel like I found the right person at the wrong time
I would want to feel like running heart song gives me the social and seduction and physical attraction benefits of other seduction titles without making me so women focused…
To me, I have this belief that finding my soulmate takes a lot of patience and saying no, maybe that belief is wrong, but I’ve spent pretty much my entire life in relationships That were good for the moment not good for the long-term. That’s why I’d still want to develop my social and sexual skills without manifesting a high quantity of women. I wouldn’t really want opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to meet my soulmate… that would make me feel like none of them were my soulmate, and that all of them were just girls I was flirting with… I’d want to develop the temperance and discernment to wait until I met somebody that I really thought deserved relationship energy and then to immediately strike while the iron is hot without needing a bunch of warm-up or practice beforehand
I’d want heart song to help me cultivate friendships where people say that I’m a great guy and I would be a great partner and they have no idea why I’m single and they introduce me to their friends and their friend groups in a way that makes me look cuffable - especially when it comes to having warm introductions to my friends’ gorgeous friends.
I’ll be honest I know I want my dream partnership, but I couldn’t even really tell you what that is either … yes I want the freedom to live my life, but I also want to be clear in my values, beliefs, and preferences, otherwise I’d just be asking somebody to follow me wherever I go without me being able to tell them clearly where I actually want to go to give them an opportunity to imagine their future with me and see if it’s what they want
Well, i think manifesting a ‘soulmate’ is such a big topic and i think many people have l
Like me limiting beliefs and blockages regardit so maybe 2 stager might be helpful.
And to be honest if i give myself as example, in my shoes i dont see realistic to run a sub and have soulmate suddenly, beacause i have not so much money, im a student, i dont have much experience with woman, i dont trust people too much and self worth issues i guess. Will heartsong cover this things?
Yeah i know i can run another subliminals for this issues, but i want to run a subliminal and then have a
‘Soulmate’.
And also i think social media and stuff have changed people’s relationships a lot. Sometimes i feel dark about it
Ps: And saint why my posts need to be apporved before they are posted??
In a way I kind of see people with hot girlfriends and hot wives as higher social status
In general guys that get hotter girls are “cooler” than guys that don’t, and for me, being someone who a 10/10 girl is in a LTR with is higher status than being a player who CAN get 10/10 girls
In my head the LTR’s are higher status because if you’re a player, then you’re just sleeping with girls and either they’re dumping you, or you’re dumping them before they can dump you
So… on the one hand, I want to have HeartSong eliminate this belief that my partner’s beauty creates my self worth or status
But on the other hand, I want a beautiful wife, as someone said here I’ll always be looking for my next girlfriend if I don’t think my current girlfriend is the most beautiful girl in the world (to me)
Edit1: these realizations above are extremely helpful. My heartsong presults have officially begun. I realized that at its primal core, what’s really happening is that when I see a hot girl, I immediately perceive myself as low status and think that seducing or being with her would increase my status. Therefore, one of the beliefs I would need to adopt in order to manifest my soulmate is to believe that I’m already fully worthy of her. My worth is intrinsic and not based on who I’m dating, which means I’m a high status man whether I’m single, or dating a beautiful woman, and I’m still a high status man if I have to break up with a physical beauty who isn’t a 10/10 match for me emotionally
Funny you mentioned this, cause I had this realization just a few hours ago while taking my shower haha
Is a"revelation of love" in consideration?
I feel like with all of the pressure to find someone yet inability to control others, a revelation style unfolding could be helpful (and this season still hasn’t had any revelation/unfolding tech iirc)
I think one big factor that minimizes neediness is having standards, or like a checklist of attributes one looks for in a partner. Like no matter how pretty they are, they have to have these attributes.
We’ve exchanged a couple of messages before and you asked me about stress and self-pressuring. Now you just mentioned “the pressure to find someone”.
Could you explain what it is exactly that you feel? Why do you think you experience this kind of pressure?
I’ve read your recent posts here, but I wasn’t able to understand the reason. You said that you want your dream partnership. That I get, but why such pressure?
I’m impressed with your openness and honesty, by the way (and for what it’s worth).
I meant more generally, from seeing people mention it on this thread. It’s not a pressure I feel overwhelmingly.
I did, maybe 7 years ago, and that came from a lot of scarcity and limiting belief and fear of dying alone that I’m a bit too far removed from to elaborate on without considerable effort to recall
Now, I can relate to it some, but I’m not the best person to speak on it
I love the idea, 1st stage building, healing and forming foundation. 2nd is for suitable “heartsong” partner.
Thank you for putting so much thought into this!
This is my perspective coming from having a manifestation on the original.
I think that all the pressure on finding someone and considering them your soulmate is kind of harmful. The manifestation I got back then I felt didn’t represent my growth as a person, in the sense that the girl felt like more of a return to what was comfortable and familiar than someone I could grow fully with. As in her personal philosophy was one that would’ve been compatible with me a year prior, but by that point was something I was consciously moving away from. I’m worried that by focusing so much on that person “who’s always been right for you,” we may neglect the fact that everyone is continuously changing in ways that may or may not make them compatible in the future.
I think if the subliminal is being phrased in the sense of finding the person who’s always been right for you, you end up with a ton of misconceptions and grappling with beliefs that you probably got as a child when the view you had on love was very naive (albeit innocent and pure). I do think those beliefs and mental structures should be tackled at some point, but I think it’s a very slippery slope when absolutes like “always” are brought in and suddenly your beliefs as a child, which may have been very easily manipulated, now have priority. There has to be a level of conscious maturity and self-reflection almost baked in to differentiate the previous vision of happily ever after you had as a kid, and the adult reality of what that entails.
TLDR: I think focusing on who you are now and your growth in the future might be more effective than assuming one person has always been perfect for you.
@SaintSovereign do you have a new or more detailed sense of what you think heartsong might be about now? Would love to hear the “rough draft” or anything that you feel like is fairly concrete in your head to know what is set in stone and what is still in need of feedback!
There is a lot of talk about “manifesting” a partner in this thread, but I would very much like to have a focus on the actual relationship and the skills involved. Finding an amazing partner and quickly messing up the relationship is not a great outcome. So navigating the challenges of long-term relationships should be a heavy focus.
@SaintSovereign im glad this comment is resonating. I want it such that if someone is running this title they can’t help but end up manifesting their partner. Even if they’re the type of person to sit inside all day. Because the title just causes them to go out to events and explore, or because their friends introduce them to someone.
The universe/God will conspire to get them their partner if they’re running the title 