Main Idea Thread - Chosen

Can I ask that people put these long chatbot posts into a collapsible section, otherwise we have to scroll through several screens worth of content to get to human posts. People mare posting a lot of chatbot content now and it’s getting tiresome scrolling through it.

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Honestly, that doesn’t quite work for me. While the breakdown is technically accurate, it strips away the actual human experience—and for a title like this, that’s everything.

How do you simplify the content without losing the ‘spiritual essence’ that makes “The Chosen” so special?

ChatGPT has the raw intelligence, but it definitely lacks the emotional depth to handle something so meaningful in my eyes.

So, no more post like that from me :wink: :white_check_mark:

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how do you do that?

The wealth argument is very easy to resolve. If you want to embody the Chosen archetype in your career, should you not be able to make money from it?

Imagine Teachers/Professors, Coaches, Consultants, Public Speakers, etc. Even idealist like revolutionaries, heads of charities, pastors, politicians, etc. need financial backing to achieve their goals.

Think of being Chosen like a skill just like writing, creativity, singing, maths, engineering, socialising etc are all skills. And New Chosen having (ethical) wealth scripting if you decide to monetize your positive leadership skills. And not monetize it if you choose to not to. Just like any other skill + wealth title we have in the main store.

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Thanks @Antares :+1:

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Could adaptive scripting not work here

It’s meant to meet you at your level from what I understand

I’d assume similarly could be applied here

Then the user could choose if wealth matters to them depending on what stage in life they are at

This is an assumption I am making. Not sure if the mechanics of what I assuming are correct

If this many people are reacting strongly to the possibility of wealth scripting in Chosen, that might be a good topic to directly address in future titles. If that belief is causing this much reaction consciously, just imagine how many of us are subconsciously creating wealth ceilings because of the wealth → corruption association. Especially with your point that many of us that can understand nuance in other cases seemingly become irrational here. It’s like a subconscious hot button that goes so deep that it bypasses everything other positive wealth belief we’ve developed.

Instead of building an empire, build a (somewhat metaphorical) world that people want to live in. You attract those people that want to follow you and support you in making that world. The wealth acts as a support for that. Just as the wealth in Emperor supports turning you into an Emperor, the wealth in Chosen supports you in being Chosen.

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And now imagine them having the funds they need without taking donations from some shady donors that are coming with certain expectations.

When you’re running a charity, you often depend on private donors. But once you’ve built to a certain degree, having tons of employees, you rely on these donations.
Your employees depend you raking in these donations. But what if the donations are only continuing when you’re willing to change your opinion?
Are you willing to choose between your ideals or your loyal employees that are almost like family through a uniting cause?

Even if it’s just the local company owner that may not donate again if you threaten his expansion plans by turning the public attention to a certain species living on the plot of land he wants to build his new warehouse on.

Depending on donors often comes with conditions.

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Are we defining Chosen to be some sort of a monk? Cause I’m not… so not sure how I will resonate with a title like that.

I’m just an ordinary guy, who knows at the back of his mind he wants to do some good while living life.

The tricky thing here for me is that those who leans towards the “Chosen” way comes from all walks of life, they are everywhere.

Constantly less and less empowered, some getting fed up of the game, sure, but they are there.

I understand that wealth is a powerful tool to bring about real and tangible changes and influence things, so yes, it benefits those who have more ignoble goals for their opposites to want to embrace austerity or suffering and simply make do.

I remember years ago I was listening to a service, and the speaker mentioned how the rich are wicked and it’s some sort of noble goal to be poor. I was in high school and my first thought was this was a bunch of baloney. Who the heck paid for this building in the first place and the air-conditioners, and whatnot.

It’s actually the rich donors they welcome with such warm eagerness. (Most places in the world really)

So I’m thinking if wealth is so powerful and influential, why deny it from those who wishes to bring about a positive change. One doesn’t need to be a social worker or a teacher to do that. Anyone with the means and the will can certainly do something positive too.

Reality as seen through my eyes and experiences is that the world doesn’t care if you’re a good person. If you’re not attractive, charismatic, influential or wealthy, most likely it’s back of the line for you when someone that does have it arrives, regardless if this person is a scoundrel or not.

I feel society, or at least mine is becoming increasingly feudalistic, but unlike then where real estate is the foremost metric for a feudal lord, now it’s the real estate of minds.

So sometimes I ask myself am I being conditioned to feel or think in a certain way that will further disempower me? What can do that? Money. What can educate and empower? Well, money too.

One can argue that good things can come from other tools as well, sure but it’s the big elephant in the room and I choose to look at it straight in the eye.

I like the idea of a radiant emperor, my opinion is Chosen should be very comfortable in a lineup of Emperor’s, Khan’s and Stark’s.

It’s simply an added choice, an added path.

Sure there are other titles and it can be stacked, and no one is stopping anyone from running those and do what we wish to do, however with that argument, there’s no conversation to be had.

The topic is about Chosen, so my response is in honor of that.

That’s just my take and I’m sure SC will come up with something that most if not all of us would be happy with and can truly bring about the good things some of us whose souls have been aching to do in a small or big way.

Or at the very least, defend oneself from those who have the means to keep taking.

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Influence would greatly help imo.
When I think Chosen, I think Jesus the revolutionary, the leader doctor Che Guevara, yet another doctor Martin Luther King, Gandhi, these kind of people who changed entire world structure through positive peaceful leadership (even when all of them also depended on other people taking action, sometimes violently, sometimes peacefully, like with the black panthers who ran free kitchens to improve their image toward the general populationand shift public opinion, but also did get violent or threaten to more than once)

To me, these would be some pinnacle of Chosen.
They don’t have to act much, and people follow for their idea, their charisma, their skill with telling ideas through stories, them being able to connect with anyone on a personal level effortlessly.
They are able to stay strong in front of opposition, even when facing violence. Jesus nailed on the cross, MLK getting arrested.
They don’t need money, but they live in abundance, because people support them, including financially, wherever they go, because in turn the people are supported by the Chosen’s presence, words, and influence pushing for change, making Tyrants and bullies tremble, toppling the structures supporting them through their visionary ideas.

Edit: also, even if one doesn’t want to become an historically recognized figure of influence, I feel these would all be nice qualities to have, charisma, influence, friendliness, flawless resilience against attacks, being able to turn being attacked to our advantage, having a nice memory, being able to see and understand societal structures, being able to tell stories to explain,

I’m sure it is very visible how one could benefit from these no matter what they want to take on leadership-wise

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Maybe title should be named Chosen One

Also regarding the epstein files have you guys seen them discussing supernatural abilities like bending spoons with their mind? And how trauma during childhood could lead to special abilities when older?

Could this be a area subliminal club be willing to explore?

It is a valid concern.

And this is exactly why we need wealfh scripting in Chosen. If we have to make ethical choices and it is dependent on financial aid, we must understand how to make that choice. Or manifest donors who are more in line with our choices rather than being forced to do things we don’t want to.

Movements die due to lack of funding and at the same time it is important to build up the strength of character and intelligence to make the hard decisions when faced with financial dilemmas such as the ones you have mentioned. All of which can be why we need subliminals like Chosen to weave our way in a society that pushes to bind us to them rather than to higher purpose.

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We do not have consensus, but I’d like to see where we are. Quick poll, wealth or no wealth in Chosen:

  • Yes
  • No
  • Undecided

0 voters

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I’d like chosen to be like the wanted dream boy of wealth XD.

I have read all the wealth titles copy, and realize none match. So if chosen had some wealth that be perfect.

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I didn’t know where or if to post this, but, the only glimmer of hope I have in this moment is that all the pain, disgust, emotion I feel right now could possibly be used to make Chosen a bit better, and from there, Chosen might make the world a bit of a better place.

Everything happening with the E Files is making me sick.

Part of me feels like the only answer is to run W2P. I’m not currently running it and have only ever ran 4-5 loops of it.

I don’t know if this is “reality” kicking in, or some sort of trauma response, but I feel so overwhelmed by how deeply Power has hidden influence over the way the world really works, and how much Power allows for a completely different ruleset, that I feel compelled to focus on nothing but Power for the rest of my life.

I’ve ran Wealth subliminals and focused on wealth since I was a young adult. I’m 30 now and since I was 22, I felt that if I just got wealthy, and focused on doing things that people benefit from, I would get wealthy, and everything would be good in my world.

Maybe this is a trauma response of some kind, as I mentioned, but my mindset truly is “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” at the moment.

Not join in on the horrific activities… but join in on this ruthless pursuit of power as a way of protection and influence.

Some of the most powerful, wealthy people on the planet are being blackmailed and are essentially owned, in total fear, of someone who had more power than them. World leaders are not nearly as powerful as the real elite.

Part of me just wants to run W2P for the rest of my life and obsess over power the way David Goggins obsesses over staying hard. Part of me just wants to cry.

Are there options other than to abuse power or be abused by it?

Nothing is off limits if you have power. Not the worst imaginable videos of the worst imaginable acts. In fact, they’re just in a catalogue that you can buy from a power broker.

That’s what scares me the most - the only response to realizing that Power shapes the world is to gain more Power… and I see all of these powerful people who just wanted to go to a party on an island and have fun, and on that island, disgusting things were completely normalized, and so they did them as if they were normal.

If, in an effort to protect myself and respond to the realities of the world, I start to gain power, why wouldn’t I be affected too? I’m not perfect. I’m just a weak, measly human, beaten down my whole life, and I’ve gotten up again and again, to try harder. I’ve wanted attention, validation, love, excitement, risk, thrill, joy, and more. How do I know that, when I’m so powerful that consequences don’t apply to me, that I’ll still act morally?

I don’t know, I don’t trust myself, I don’t trust the human condition or spirit at all any more.

Humans are disgusting and I am one and I fucking hate that about myself right now.

There’s that old experiment, “The Milgram Experiment,” that was used to demonstrate how we can get pushed to do things we currently consider unethical, so long as they’re gradual enough, and so long as they’re orders from someone in a position of power.

That study was used as a major argument to support the idea that low-mid-level nazi soldiers were “just following orders” and that as much as Americans demonized those individuals, they, also suffering from being human, would have done the exact same thing.

Most study participants in the Milgram Experiment administered enough of a (fake) electric shock to the actor in the study that they would have killed him with 100% certainty.

We all think we’re good until we’re given the opportunity to do evil with a clear conscience.

My point is… how do I know that, given enough power, I wouldn’t do the exact same thing that is making me unbelievably sick to my stomach and disgusted by humanity itself right now?

I feel a little better having written all this, but I still have no idea how to process how truly fucked up and awful this world is. Thank you for listening and facilitating this place to vent.

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This is nothing new, Power has always been like this for thousands of years.

“Justice is nothing else than the advantage [or interest] of the stronger.” - Plato

Additionally there is a quite famous saying where justice is written “Just Us”

My mentor tried to fight abit against the establishment and the corruption and he ended up 11 years i solitary confinement with 0 crimes comited. He explained to me how it all works.

Ive been a “conspiracy theorist” about the Epstein files for years and had to deal with people thinking I was crazy for what has now been confirmed as true.

From my understanding C&C was partly developed to protect ourselves exactly from this in this time and age of volatility. As we see systems of power in the world slowly crumble it will be very rough and challenging time for everyone. It will probably get far worse before it gets better as gov’s start to aggressively hold on to the dwindling power they still have in controlling the population.

Although, it does present a fantastic opportunity for humanity to reset, potentially learn from the past and create a far more virtuous structure. This will require strong virtuous leaders that build a new world out of love and not for personal power. This is how I imagine the new chosen being like.

These are similar events that lead to the creation of democracy BTW.

My point being. There is no point playing their game, they make their own rules. My answer to this is to play you’re own game done from a position of virtue and wisdom. Let the natural human nature cycle unfold on its own and be you’re best you.

I would recommend Love Bomb if you are feeling this way. Just started it recently and its going deep very fast on similar concepts.

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This is very thoughtful @Jouissance. You’re clearly reconciling your beliefs. I believe you should explore it further and find out what power truly means to you.

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