Appreciate it! Was feeling a little insecure about how much I dominate this thread. Think I’ll open a journal after my upcoming wash out.
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Your contributions are inspiring to all of us. Could you give us an outline how your results were before using subliminals. What has been the biggest change you have seen since starting subliminals?
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You’re probably the main reason I tried it for as long as I did… but now I’ll just use it occasionally
I think I’m probably too dreamy already & too summer already… hence I need the darker stuff to balance it
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Dont be like that Hearty keep posting your successes here 
of course if you want to start a journal please do.
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Before subs
- True social + wanted black: Local celebrity with harem and crazy social life **.
- Internally a total wreck — prioritized everyone and everything over my health and wellbeing.
Biggest changes with subs
Boundary setting
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Stopped taking work home overnight and on weekends unless I was having gun with the assignment.
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Cut out imbalanced relationships
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Prioritized my self-care and wellbeing
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Stopped apologizing for everything
Connections
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Much easier to form meaningful connections.
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Long-term friendships feel richer. People note that they feel closer to mean and the effect I have on their lives.
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learned to ‘read the music between the notes’. I have a better understanding what my roster wants without having to tell me.
Sexuality
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Khan helped me understand what I need to enjoy sexual relationships and how to better express/communicate my sexuality.
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Feeling present in the moment and less in my head
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Having fun with everything surrounding sex not just the act itself.
** This is why I have such an essay time with seduction subs. Beliefs are internalized.
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Thanks for outlining your experience. Do you mean you became a local celebrity with a harem due to WB and True Social, or you were already one before?
Regarding Wanted Dream Boy, how do you manage to date multiple women without them getting possesive or jealous? I think this is the reason many guys want to go back to WB.
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I’m running some WDB and some WB here and there. not NW now
The physical shifting when I started to add some minimal loops of WB is very obvious to me.
I think NW had more emphasis on the shoulders.
I’m thinking I’ll switch WDB to NW but haven’t decided yet.
I don’t completely understand what does it mean in real life .
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Thanks for outlining your experience. Do you mean you became a local celebrity with a harem due to WB and True Social, or you were already one before?
Sorry, let me clarify. Before using subs my life was like Wanted Black + True social: social butterfly, local kink celebrity, a harem, etc. Subs helped refine all the characteristics that made me popular and successful with people. In my 20s I was known for a frantic yet friendly energy. You’d see me bouncing around the room all night. Now It’s a calming, inviting presence – Someone who’ll pull you aside and make you feel like the most important person in the room. I once saw my dream boy (my favorite partner) throw a girl off hid lap because I call him over. No questions asked. The presence is just that powerful.
Life has lowed down over the last 15 months (I started using subs in April), but that’s by choice. I prioritize my health and well being now, which means fewer wild nights out and more early bedtimes. My partners joke that I’m a ‘old’ now that I get tired so early >>.
Clear communication and boundaries. I’m poly 95% of the people I date are poly. That doesn’t mean jealousy, insecurity and possessive don’t arise. They happen all the time. Communicate often and clearly so you both know where you stand and where things are going.
Incidentally, it’s the men in my life who struggle the most with jealousy and possessiveness. Men have no chill lol. my dream boy really doesn’t like (he won’t admit it) when other partners unless he can shit talk them lol
A body that properly supports you, not just cosmetic enhancements (Abs are a trap)
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Personally, it’s hard to pinpoint any changes in my body that are supposed to have happened because of WDB.
Casually running and alternating this and NW one loop in like 2weeks period.
Whats giving me recon and pissing me off is the attraction of wrong parthners, we have pretty good chemistry and can talk for many hours but they just arent my type.
I made it clear what my preferences are (which she doesnt match on multiple levels) and to be friends but her entitlement to date me is annoying me and pissing me off, i would call her a friend in chat dm while she responds with husband lol.
Shes good looking and has other options so i dont understand the obsession but yet i also do understand, she mentioned i tick all her boxes, someone whos healthy and into health lifestyle , works out, deeply spiritual, mentally and emotionally mature and ground and treats her well, the kind of list girls look for when trying to settle and find something serious but she got kinda a bit ran through in 20s and dating in her words assholes that abuse her and if a person doesnt respect themselves then i cant respect them either. It might feel mean but i feel like she doesn’t deserve me but i would never tell her that, I dont want to rudely reject her or negatively emotionally impact her but politely i mentioned my preferences and implied friendship, but she feels entitled to date me because she sees me as someone higher league than her that will treat her well unlike past baggage of assholes, its a good deal for her but a bad deal for me, i can understand her perspective but i dont vibe with that at all.
I dont want to hurt her feelings as im more polite but she’s not taking the hints, al tho i do appreciate the gifts she spends on me but i would prefer to stay friends… Just to get this off my chest, i dont want to waste time on attracting wrong people for me
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Random concern I just got now.
Am I making the romance effect of this title weaker by running it in a name-embedded (WDB + Summertime) title? Something made me want to ask this on here, as if by having Summertime in that name-embed it’s less effective for romance, dating, getting others to be attracted/interested in me, etc. @Forum_Ambassadors
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No. Summertime is a very flexible title that’ll keep you grounded and make you approachable
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@SubliminalUser - I think it’s an excellent combo since Summertime will help you be relaxed socially and WDB helps you be relaxed sexually. Perfect KO! You win!
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WB/IC @2min every other day
WDB/K4 custom @2min maybe once a wk
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oh heck. That’s a good mix.
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I’m currently running Genesis Ascension Stage 1 Stabilizer + Primal + Godlike Masculinity, but I’m thinking about replacing GLM.
Today, my seniors dared us to go talk to a girl who was sitting on a bench. At first, they were joking around and daring all of us, but then they excluded me and another guy and started pressuring a different guy to do it. Even though they weren’t pressuring me or focusing on me anymore, my heart started racing and I began feeling anxious. The other guy kept refusing to do it, and then we all started walking back to the office. That’s when I worked up the courage to go and ask her for her number, but my seniors called me back and said they were only testing us.
I felt kind of happy, but it also felt like fake pride since I actually didn’t approach her.
That experience made me realize that my biggest issue isn’t attraction—it’s approaching women in the first place. Because of that, I’m wondering if GLM is the best fit for my stack right now.
I don’t really want to add a heavy title like Khan since I’m already running Genesis Ascension Stage 1 to build a solid foundation, and I don’t get recon from Primal. I’m also unsure about Wanted because I’ve barely approached women. My thinking is that it makes more sense to first build the confidence and habit of approaching women consistently, and then later consider something like Wanted.
Given that, what would you recommend replacing GLM with, if anything? Or do you think I should just keep the stack as it is for now? Maybe I add WDB as it works long term and isn’t as heavy as wanted or wanted black?
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Your stack is fine, you need to approach despite the fear anyways- nothing is going to force you into doing it 
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That’s a good stack I would not add WDB. If you do want to add something you can consider NW
But as Niles said I wouldn’t change it
I think Primal manifested such a situation for him and that’s great! Primal is really slick you don’t feel anything happening but you get to know awesome friends and to approach women somehow
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After learning about how customs are now built in ZPU as of June 1, I placed an order for a WDB+Summertime ZPU custom (upgrading the earlier ZP custom). I’m excited to see how this one performs.
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