Definitely not placebo in that sense
Results happen spontaneously without me even thinking about them.
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Itās not a placebo, itās real. Before Subclub I studied NLP/Hypnosis and Qigong like many others here, to understand the underlying language, structure, and energy used to change the subconscious. One mentor taught me how to do manifestation method. Essentially a manual method to do what a subliminal audio does automatically. Now a days I take action, use the subliminal for doing the hard work automatically, and I use the method I learned to do conscious guidance of the sub.
Personally, I prefer when I start a new sub to read the description once a week to differentiate what sub is doing what. I already instantly catch in real time the small, medium, and big changes a sub brings up for me, but refreshing my mind of the description allows me to catch those microscopic nuances in my life.
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I donāt believe at all that this is placebo. What even is placebo? A belief that something will work and your flesh follows the spirit (belief). While it is true that even in therapy you must believe that it will work for it to work, and I do not disregard the power of belief at all, and would even agree that placebo might amplify the effects of a sub. However, these programs are lot more than just sugar pills.
I never expected Emperor Black to help me in the gym, but I always see incredible strength gains in the gym when I run EB along with the other benefits it mentions. My āspeculationā for that is that while new neural pathways take time to build, the core energy of the subs instantly start flowing and you notice them through the strongest neural pathways youve built already. Like EB is about personal power and focus, and Iāve been lifting for 21 years, so I immediately notice it in the gym. For someone whoās a PMO addict, would notice the effect of KB or Khan instantly by relapsing, because thatās the easiest path.
Sometimes itās a good thing, sometimes not something youād prefer, and thatās where some conscious resilience and will comes into play. Like if a sub makes you too horny, you consciously try to channel the energy into something creative instead of releasing it (unless that is your goal).
These subs do work and belief in them working might make them better. Thatās my personal opinion on this and I could be wrong.
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What do you suggest for PMO?
Iāve used Khan and KB in the past but havenāt felt results of such much.
Not saying not at allā¦
Can you elaborate please?
Iām trying to go NoFap or stay away from Corn usage which sub can help with that?
Used Khan and KB with minimal results in that regard
There are two ways of approaching this, you get used to the fire first and then learn to channel it. KB helps with that, initially you might relapse but then depending on how badly you truly want to change you start becoming aware of the urges and identify it when it appears and do something else. Iāve learned to do that and it really helps
When I was at your stage, EB helped a lot. It really takes away these kind of impulsive distractions and laser focused you to your goals. So you can try that too
Again, just sharing my experience. You can try out other subs like EE, GLM, or AoW too, which help with self mastery. What youāre truly mentioning is energy leakage, so you need a stronger will and better healthy boundaries without shaming yourself for your very natural and primal urges, they just need a more creative outlet.
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āPlaceboā is just a placeholder word that clueless mainstream scientists use for a phenomenon that they cannot explain with their existing world models.
It is simply a placeholder word for ābelief influences physical realityā.
And calling it āplaceboā sounds more scientific than āmind over matterā or āmanifestation via consciousnessā, right?
A placeholder word that explains absolutely nothing.
But mainstream scientist do this all the time.
There arenāt even proper definitions for even more āscientificā words like āspaceā, ātimeā and āenergyā ā those are all also just placeholder words for not fully defined phenomena too.
LMAO
But to answer your question:
In my experience, manifestation of your own reality is absolutely true and happens 100% of the time. Especially with the ZP tech, I have had many manifestations that are statistically almost impossible from a strict mathematical point of view. So the math 100% supports this.
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The nervous system regulation titles are best for this. Porn addiction is essentially a chronically activated nervous system attempting to discharge that energy through porn use, which has a paradoxical effect, given the fact that viewing pornography itself ramps up the nervous system.
One solution is to use a title that helps you regulate the nervous system instead, making it much easier to refrain from porn use.
So, GLM would probably be the best option, since it also has alpha scripting.
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To add GLM adds stability and emotional mastery. Great for overcoming things.
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Thanks
Iāve never read GLM description
Iāll try to over come this on my current stack with Alchemist if it doesnāt workout Iāll have to try something like that.
I donāt know why people in this thread are trying to debunk WB or come up with weird ideas as to why itās working or not working ! Just run the sub for 6 months to year and monitor results and changes within oneself ā¦aināt hard .
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Do you have any insights to share from your extensive experience with the product? I recall a mention of your transition from PS to WB, and Iām interested in any results you might be able to disseminate.
Thank you.
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Well said. Run titles long term to see real change.
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It happened to me that I felt my brain working extra hard and I didnāt get why because I was just walking, I looked in my bag and my phone started playing a sub, too low volume for me to hear. I didnāt start it, but accidental presses did. And still I felt it.
This is not placebo. (And even if it was, would it change any of the results people get from it?)
Also iirc subclub did a randomized double blind trial with a control group, a placebo group listening to a masked subs with a blank track, and a group listening to an actual sub to see if it had an effect beyond placebo, and it did.
I find spartan helps me alot with no pmo
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The way I see it is to embrace your natural urges. See them as a natural part of your humanity, not as something sinful or bad. The moment you stop judging your own desires is the moment you can stop letting them controll you. Most people go in cycles of strict discipline until the moment finally comes and then relapse. This makes them feel bad and only reinforces the control their desires have over them.
Embrace your sexuality. Enjoy some porn. But realise there are other ways to release your pent up energies. One time you experience urges and watch porn. That is okay. Donāt judge yourself. The next time you experience urges, hit the gym and have a great workout. Just observe there is another pathway.
Then when you go back next time to watching porn instead of feeling guilty, maybe notice that your desires have become less compulsive and more enjoyable. Then the next time you have urges, go out and talk to people. Notice again there is another pathway. Then the next time you come back to porn, notice that maybe the urges have become less strong.
Keep pendulating like that and let your nervous system recalibrate naturally. Change your habits not by judgement, guilt or forced discipline. But introduce new possibilities to your life and become aware of them.
IMO this whole NoFap movement is doing more harm than good.
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WBās tempting again 
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Hey! Just finished setting up my custom NE with the WB and Rembrandt modules 
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Hope the anti-recon and adaptive scripting work smoothly 
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