Main Disc. Thread - True Sell ZP (Now Available!)

[Azriel]

Did the lead quality turn around?
True Sell does not help with this in my experience at all.

RICH does, HOM does, EOG does.
NR and ASBR do as well but not as directly.

Sales and lead quality manifestation is a really cool/more direct thing to track with sub use.

[Monarch]

I hope in the updated version, they address this.

Lead manifestation is a huge part of the sales puzzle.

[Monarch]

Do you think HOM is a better sales sub than True Sell?

I’ve spoke to @Jouissance about this before and want to hear what you think?

[Azriel]

@Monarch

I hope in the updated version, they address this.

Lead manifestation is a huge part of the sales puzzle.

I imagine there is some emphasis on sale manifestation in the current version but its not nearly enough. This is a huge piece of the puzzle

A True Sell Black for pure inside sales and a True Sell Black for business development would be cool as well, or that could be covered in one sub-potentially

Just ranting hear: I’ll add this to the new thread but other improvements

1. Building momentum, flow, and being ‘on fire’ as an NSE more consistently
2. Abundance of lead flow and quality- ‘ripe for sales’
3. In addition to incredible skills at closing -easy closing as well- manifesting people 'ready to go
4. Manage getting out of slumps, spirals, - sales- rejection
5. True Sell is brilliant at understanding people- and its very good at conveying oneself-it lacks bridging that gap- speaking to an understanding of people in a way that ACTUALLY makes a difference for the sale. It works great for coaching in my experience- but the ability to understand people seems limited in its sales application in my experience
   6.Wealth, wealth, money, money, lead manifestation- that’s the real game- the right fit
6. The charisma element of true sell is great -more fluidity and organicness along with professionalism and consistency- balancing authority and relatedness. Not falling into one’s own-route ina way that is ineffective for sales
7. Some kind of equivalent of the Tyrant module- to dominant reality with sales and consistently be ‘the one’ the top performer no matter what.
8. Elements of learning and adaption, like SSX for sales
9. True Sell as a solo title seems WAY more effective in verbal acuity and skill, in a custom and stacked; even after a year, it just doesn’t shine through as much or as smoothly.
10. Navigating with wisdom and experience but keeping that newness and novelty in sales, that ability that anything could happen, any sale could be the one. Not getting resentful, cynical, frustrated by lack of closing or when things don’t turn out, not getting jaded.
11. Ability to perceive and experience others without it effecting the users emotional state- or only enough to calibrate/tactically empathize effectively.

[Azriel]

@Monarch

I’ve spoke to @Jouissance about this before and want to hear what you think?

@Jouissance knows his stuff really well and is very discerning when it comes to subs.

@Monarch

Do you think HOM is a better sales sub than True Sell?

Depends on the field in sales. If I had to pick one for a pure sales role, I’d do True Sell.
It’s faster, more consistent and more efficient for pure close ratio in inside sales-if marketing is supplying leads.

HOM is great for longer sales cycles, lead quality generation, and initial rapport. If you have to generate your own leads HOM would be better. It’s also great for overall wealth manifestation and success- but not call per call. It’s actually been almost a year since I’ve used HOM, and I believe I need to start experimenting with it more lately. I’ve been stalled on my revenue ceiling. Even though I’m at the top, number 1 or 2, every month, in my company

[Detective_L]

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We just had to play games as a teamwork exercise at our course. I can really feel the effects of True Sell now. The old me would have not participated in such things because of anxiety which was so bad it made me sweat buckets and a heart beat so loud that while normal people feel that like drums in their ears, I felt it on my pupils, as in my heartbeat made my pupils beat at its rhythm. Now while I am not a social butterfly (yet!) but I feel really comfortable in my skin. I feel perfectly fin…

[Metamorphosis]

Perhaps this is already an extensive part of True Sell, but this felt relevant - from the Khan (Love and War) Thread:

@Metamorphosis

Relatability is a key aspect to power that I’ve identified.

For example, a great GMAT instructor will not sway a student who is just not looking to write that exam.

However, if he wants to exercise his power through demonstrating his competence → he has to either talk to someone who is interested in GMAT or get the person who is currently not interested to become interested.

Khan does guide you to become relatable in the sense that physical body language and verbal language is understood by all. I’d love for this concept to go deeper in the future versions tho! The way to frame words to first pique interest and then lead.

[Metamorphosis]

Anyone used this for Real Estate?

[Azriel]

@Azriel

To be honest I’m a little torn- because overall I’m in a great position and I believe subs and true sell have contributed to my bringing out this success in my self and on the other hand, I’m disappointed, if I run a sub focused on selling and am in action 40+ hours a week focused exclusively on that I want to see myself evolving, growing, winning, and succeeding WAY more often than I am. For reference I consistently do 20K weeks, other tops reps do 40K+ and others do 80K+. I have had 50K weeks I want to be consistently doing 40K+ weeks minimum and hit 80k+ often. I see the value in simply comparing my own progress to myself as well of course.

Someone liked this post and seeing it now
So want to comment in the last year I am consistently doing $40K weeks now and often hit $80k+ a week.

I added True Sell to a custom with RICH and later NWE.
I had different stacks always wealth focused

[JCDenton]

Thanks for sharing your awesome results!

I purchased True Sell around two weeks ago as I will have to sell some stuff in the near future.

Looking forward to the upgrade of this title and all the insights from the other thread that was collecting ideas and best practices on selling

Currently going to combine it with Genegis Mogul and RICH, so that both, RICH and True Sell are processed trough the NWE scripting of Genesis Mogul.

[Ravenscout]

I’m not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I am curious how True Sell compares to ASBR. I know there is true sell components in SB but I am wondering if SB would be better in sales as it has the better tech. Thoughts? I’m building a wealth custom with NR and NWE and True Sell, but am thinking if SB might be a better overall choice as it has much more things within it that attract me.

[SaintSpring]

Trust me: for now, nothing beats True Sell in sales. Tech is a secondary factor, the primary one is scripting. Run True Sell, run ASBR - you will see a huge difference.

[Ravenscout]

@Ravenscout

I’m not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I am curious how True Sell compares to ASBR. I know there is true sell components in SB but I am wondering if SB would be better in sales as it has the better tech. Thoughts? I’m building a wealth custom with NR and NWE and True Sell, but am thinking if SB might be a better overall choice as it has much more things within it that attract me.

Much appreciated!

[Floridianninja]

What would be better for someone in a call center type place? RICH or True Sell?

[SaintSpring]

What do you do in your place? Need more info

[Fusion]

@Floridianninja

What would be better for someone in a call center type place? RICH or True Sell?

True Sell for straight customer service or anything allowing you to earn additional bonuses or income through upselling, retaining accounts etc.

RICH acts on all pathways of manifestation. So if there is a side hustle or any other opportunities for cash flow it’s effective. But you need to have different channels for it to work through to really make the most effective use of it.

[Floridianninja]

Not for me for a friend well my new girl

But she does insurance and tries to upsell people in certain packages

[SaintSpring]

@Floridianninja

my new girl

Happy for you, man!

Then True Sell no doubts.

[Niles]

Depends on what you’re selling, but as me and @Azriel have found, having both in the stack makes it much more effective. There isn’t any direct wealth scripting in True Sell, and you can be very elite at sales, but if you are in the wrong opportunity, aren’t talking to the right leads, etc, it won’t be nearly as effective.

What is in the rest of your stack right now? If you don’t have anything containing the NWE, I would actually go with SB.

[Azriel]

@Ravenscout

@Niles is exactly right-True Sell helps tremendously with conviction, verbal fluency, thinking fast and speaking on your feet, presenting well, understanding where people may be coming from, and overall charisma.

It is not good at emotional regulation, dealing with the challenges in the world of sales, selling people rather than ‘writing’ them off (conflict of the deal capacity instinct )

It MAY help with manifestation sales possibility but is not nearly the same with wealth subs

ASBR is a trickier beast, it’s marvelous for resilience, status, higher levels of verbal fluency in sales, more neutral detachment… but it can also have me not want to engage sales calls or be TOO significant or serious. Overall I’ve kept it in my stack for 10 months, and until the last 3 months had the best performances for my sales career. I’ve found it to be better than NR when stacked with True Sell.

In my experience sales is a mixture of

1. Lead manifestation and quality
2. Skill in relating, connecting, and selling to qualified leads.
3. Capacity to create sales where they otherwise would not have happened- (different than actual standard sales skills- this is a skill of a way of being that is so compelling and on point will register with you regardless- in my experience it has way more to do with how I’m living my life and how I feel about the sale than anything else-this comes closer to a life changer skillset)
4. Management of pipeline- productivity and intelligence in follow up and re-engagement (and going into number 5- the emotional regulation and maintenance of optimism and positivity that come with that. Managing unresponsiveness, rejection etc)
5. Relationship to personal success and identity in the face of comparison and adversity

True Sell helps with 2 and a part of 3.
EOG helps with 1, 4, 5
ASBR helps with 2, 5, and a little bit of 4
NR helps with 1,5, and 3 but not consistently
HOM helps with 1,2,3,4 and sometimes 5
RICH helps with 1, and 4 - pushing through