Main Disc. Thread - The Revelation of Spirit ZP

Product Discussion
#491

Something I continue to struggle with and what seems to be the reason that I allways abort this sub is an internal conflict that I am having with eating meat.
When this sub hits, I taste the difference between something alive and dead. And there is also this part inside of me that knows that my body needs some meat. That went down the road of dark spirituality where death is part of live. And I am having issues integrating this childlike joy that is innocent, peaceful and curious…and this other “realistic” part. Most likely my ego. That whants so plan life. Have goals. Hit the Gym everyday because I want a sixpack. Not wanting to give up meat…because when I look at it at the supermarket, my body start to salvinate. Not just live by trust but get to the point of self-efficiancy, confidence and a doer mindset.

Lets see where this takes me…if I just have to go on. But this inner colfict now came 3 times starting this sub and it feels like this is why I stop it.

Maybe this innoctent Part (my soul?) and my ego need to start to have a relationship with each other. Because I went through enough spirituality where there is this constant fight “agaisnt the ego”. And I am tired of it. I want to find a life of integration between the light and “dark” (and when I speak of dark I dont mean evil or machiavelian…but rather the earthly, bodily pleasures). Where I guess the biggest wish of my “Ego” or wounded self is to have my first one night stand. And not punish myself for that.
Not again gointdown the route of “I am my soul”. But to have that inner source of inspiration that keeps on shining. Even when I am not “perfect”, “clean” or whatever…by some measures that religions say.

I am realizing more and more that I am in individual created by many parts…and I want to find a state of integration. And not start “the spiritual war of light an dark” inside of me again.
But lets see…Ill give this some more loops and see if I can resolve this somehow. Without cutting of parts of myself. Because in the past I have seen: this has consequences.

3 Likes
#492

Reconciliation happening live and uncut

Thank you for sharing man

2 Likes
#493

Similarly on DRR connecting with the spiritual and the more i get into higher quality energies i also become more really disgusted and judgemental of low quality energy people.

1 Like
#494

that’s not spiritual growth though? :thinking:

being disgusted by people you’ve decided are “low quality energy” is just ranking people and looking down on the ones beneath you

5 Likes
#495

Just my 2 cents;

Strong disgust/rejection is a reaction, although the ego may hide it behind the mask of “being rational.”
There isn’t anything wrong with it per se, but the same applies to the people we may judge in that moment. It’s all relative to our own level of progression.

It also begs the question of why there is a trigger in the first place if you’re truly about your shit, why the felt need to reject someone so strongly?

Eventually, one shouldn’t even be bothered by other people’s lack of ability to cope with themselves and their issues. Just show them compassion if you care enough, or detach and move on.

Just don’t let spiritual ego fool you into thinking you’re somehow better than them.

No, I’m not talking about false humility or letting people step over your boundaries. Own that you may be more advanced in certain areas, and stand firm when people try to push it. But also recognize that with a more expanded consciousness, your responsibility scales equally.

You have more power and more opportunities. Your choices matter more, but the consequences are amplified too, even if they don’t always appear right away.

I’m mentioning this because hierarchical thinking is very common in spiritual elitism. While it can feel very good for a while, it can seriously blind you and cap your spiritual growth. For some, that won’t matter as much. But for those who are more committed to the long-term journey than to reaching a certain goalpost, this can become a serious trap.

There are many, many factors that influence why people are the way they are. Just because your personal framework and approach worked for you in some way doesn’t mean they will always work the same way for others. Some things are universal yes, but context matters.

Always assume there are things you don’t know, things you can’t see, and things you don’t understand (yet). The more you can detach from the desire to be “right” or “better,” the faster you’ll be able to make real progress and breakthroughs.

Unless someone tries to outright interfere with your path, let them live in their ignorance. Your reference point should always be yourself and your own trajectory, what do you want, not how much someone else struggles with theirs.

Live and let live.

11 Likes
#496

Well its simple being in higher quality energy i dont feel resonance with people in too low quality energy, it just feels unpleasant, disrupting and sometimes disgusting, just the visecral feelings i directly feel from their energy.
Its honest assessment,no point in false humility dont have to perceive it as being better than them just further along the journey.

2 Likes
#497

Why does it cause visceral feelings of unpleasantness or disgust tho?

Why does such feelings get triggered when you witness such people?

Any feelings (or none) could arise when in the presence of people making… questionable choices, sometimes.
It could have been apathy, it could have been empathy, it could have been pity, it could have been curiosity, it could have been amusement, but here it’s unpleasantness and disgust, why?

You don’t owe me or anyone those answers, but they could be good questions to ask ourselves, “why did we react that way?” In order to better understand ourselves.

#498

Stay with the process.

Let it all unfold.

Every time can be found somewhere on the clock.

You’ll hit them all before you’re done.

5 Likes
#499

I don’t know if this is part of my awakening journey, but I’m currently questioning spirituality as I understood it on a very deep level.
I’ve been re-examining systems I used to immerse myself in, such as Human Design, astrology, oracle cards, and other spiritual frameworks. At the core, many of these systems seem to rest on the same assumption: that reality, the universe, or some higher intelligence is inherently meaningful, intelligent, and orchestrated — that everything happens for a reason, that patterns run through everything, and that life is somehow planned.
And I’m beginning to question that completely.
Do these things actually reflect truth? Do planetary constellations really define me? Is pulling a card truly guidance from a higher source, or is it simply randomness onto which we project meaning? These are the questions I’m asking now.
Because I went very far down that road — the road of believing that everything is controlled, orchestrated, and meaningful in a spiritual sense. And it became extreme. Every choice became existential. Even making breakfast could feel like a question of whether I was aligning with my soul or moving away from my truth. Life became a constant pressure of “Am I moving toward awakening, or away from it?”
And now I’m asking a much simpler question: Does believing in these systems actually give me more freedom, or does it reduce my freedom? Does it make life lighter, or more constricted?
I’m also questioning the difference between spirituality and religion. More and more, I see how belief systems can be constructed not to create freedom, but to create more control, more inner conflict, and more pressure. I’ve seen this in fundamental Christianity, Hare Krishna, and other systems that speak of love, truth, and God — but then immediately create rules, behavioral codes, and inner pressure.
In my own life, those systems often ended up reenacting my childhood patterns and strengthening my inner critic rather than creating freedom. They did not feel loving. They felt constricting. They created a life of trying to “live from the soul” while constantly fighting the ego.
Now I’m going deeper into a different question: What if the “ego” is not simply something bad, but the hurt and adapted part of me? What if the “soul” is not something abstract, but the more alive, true, and unburdened part of me?
I’m trying to understand the dance between these parts — the dance between abundance and lack, truth and defense, openness and protection. And more than anything, I’m trying to learn how to be with myself even in states of lack, fear, or contraction, without punishing myself for them, without shaming myself, and without turning everything into a spiritual problem.
That feels more honest to me right now.

9 Likes
#500

My journey with god is going deeper and deeper.
Some days ago I met the name “higher power” instead of god…as the word god triggers to many old religious patterns inside of me…and also…higher power…somehow implies…that I am the lower power…it doesnt take away everything from me…there are things in my power…and things that arent.

Today during meditation I got very deep. Like disolving and meeting god deep…
And there was this one realization that crushed my iinner world…(in a good way)…
God it not perfect. Not everything in this universe or in my reality is perfectly orchestrated. Not every random occurance is a message from god…my traumatic upbringing and all that happned to me is not…the will of god. God is not all powerful…
And by realizing this…I allowed myself…or took the power…to call out whats faulty in my reality. And to now take to power to change those things.

Some of these new age spiritual believes of “everything is planed by god” really put me in the backseat in my life…because then I didnt allow myself to change things…as those were put there by god right? God gave me those parents that fucked me up. As a task? as duty? No. I dont believe that anymore. I now take the right to form my reality. As I deem it suitable.

3 Likes
#501

Different vibration and polarity repulsing each other.
Like oil and water they separate.

#502

Interesting to contemplate on these topics as i thought and processed them myself too.
I see reality as very mathematical rather than chaotic randomness.

Good astrology perfectly describes me and my life, that cant happen without some form of intelligent mathematical design.

Also interesting when something internally or in my energy field goes “negative” or “wrong” then people external react with conflicts fights, even dogs become more agressive, petty small arguments grow into a forrest fire, while other times something internally shifts in positive way the opposite happens.
My external behaviour doesnt seem to matter that much (unless something extreme) as the internal stuff towards the external outcomes.
But also kind of makes me feel sometimes in those moments like ppl are npcs and its just my internal programs dictating how they will interact with me.
It does feel different with more spiritual individuals tho.

As for breakfast thing i can relate, i questioned why am i addicted to needing bread with some meals why cant i give up this food fully.
Most intuitive answer that comes up is it being rooted in survival programs in my unconscious inherited from my family/ancestors as bread was a cheap food in times of lack that helped them survive but its not something that makes me thrive.

#503

I don’t think either oil or water have any emotion or feelings,

though they do separate because of incompatibility and being unable to connect to one another due to their inherent nature and composition.

Oil has no way to stick to water due to the way their molecules are set up.

In fact, the separation is quite fluid, just molecule of water attaching to other molecules of water and sliding down due to density, and oil attaching to oil, rising up to to the displacement of water occupying space.

Each just slide toward their pairs without any attachment or gripping with one another.

I asked because I don’t have any feelings of disgust or dislike toward people I am incompatible with.

I feel either apathy or pity, depending on if they do ignore themselves and do damage to themselves, or not.

Hence, I know that there can be other types of feeling and disgust is not an automatic inherent reaction.

1 Like