Main Disc. Thread - The Revelation of Spirit ZP

[MechaShaman]

Something I continue to struggle with and what seems to be the reason that I allways abort this sub is an internal conflict that I am having with eating meat.
When this sub hits, I taste the difference between something alive and dead. And there is also this part inside of me that knows that my body needs some meat. That went down the road of dark spirituality where death is part of live. And I am having issues integrating this childlike joy that is innocent, peaceful and curious…and this other “realistic” part. Most likely my ego. That whants so plan life. Have goals. Hit the Gym everyday because I want a sixpack. Not wanting to give up meat…because when I look at it at the supermarket, my body start to salvinate. Not just live by trust but get to the point of self-efficiancy, confidence and a doer mindset.

Lets see where this takes me…if I just have to go on. But this inner colfict now came 3 times starting this sub and it feels like this is why I stop it.

Maybe this innoctent Part (my soul?) and my ego need to start to have a relationship with each other. Because I went through enough spirituality where there is this constant fight “agaisnt the ego”. And I am tired of it. I want to find a life of integration between the light and “dark” (and when I speak of dark I dont mean evil or machiavelian…but rather the earthly, bodily pleasures). Where I guess the biggest wish of my “Ego” or wounded self is to have my first one night stand. And not punish myself for that.
Not again gointdown the route of “I am my soul”. But to have that inner source of inspiration that keeps on shining. Even when I am not “perfect”, “clean” or whatever…by some measures that religions say.

I am realizing more and more that I am in individual created by many parts…and I want to find a state of integration. And not start “the spiritual war of light an dark” inside of me again.
But lets see…Ill give this some more loops and see if I can resolve this somehow. Without cutting of parts of myself. Because in the past I have seen: this has consequences.

[Prioritas]

Reconciliation happening live and uncut

Thank you for sharing man

[Akephalos]

Similarly on DRR connecting with the spiritual and the more i get into higher quality energies i also become more really disgusted and judgemental of low quality energy people.

[MAkh]

that’s not spiritual growth though?

being disgusted by people you’ve decided are “low quality energy” is just ranking people and looking down on the ones beneath you

[Antares]

Just my 2 cents;

Strong disgust/rejection is a reaction, although the ego may hide it behind the mask of “being rational.”
There isn’t anything wrong with it per se, but the same applies to the people we may judge in that moment. It’s all relative to our own level of progression.

It also begs the question of why there is a trigger in the first place if you’re truly about your shit, why the felt need to reject someone so strongly?

Eventually, one shouldn’t even be bothered by other people’s lack of ability to cope with themselves and their issues. Just show them compassion if you care enough, or detach and move on.

Just don’t let spiritual ego fool you into thinking you’re somehow better than them.

No, I’m not talking about false humility or letting people step over your boundaries. Own that you may be more advanced in certain areas, and stand firm when people try to push it. But also recognize that with a more expanded consciousness, your responsibility scales equally.

You have more power and more opportunities. Your choices matter more, but the consequences are amplified too, even if they don’t always appear right away.

I’m mentioning this because hierarchical thinking is very common in spiritual elitism. While it can feel very good for a while, it can seriously blind you and cap your spiritual growth. For some, that won’t matter as much. But for those who are more committed to the long-term journey than to reaching a certain goalpost, this can become a serious trap.

There are many, many factors that influence why people are the way they are. Just because your personal framework and approach worked for you in some way doesn’t mean they will always work the same way for others. Some things are universal yes, but context matters.

Always assume there are things you don’t know, things you can’t see, and things you don’t understand (yet). The more you can detach from the desire to be “right” or “better,” the faster you’ll be able to make real progress and breakthroughs.

Unless someone tries to outright interfere with your path, let them live in their ignorance. Your reference point should always be yourself and your own trajectory, what do you want, not how much someone else struggles with theirs.

Live and let live.

[Akephalos]

Well its simple being in higher quality energy i dont feel resonance with people in too low quality energy, it just feels unpleasant, disrupting and sometimes disgusting, just the visecral feelings i directly feel from their energy.
Its honest assessment,no point in false humility dont have to perceive it as being better than them just further along the journey.

[Wonders]

Why does it cause visceral feelings of unpleasantness or disgust tho?

Why does such feelings get triggered when you witness such people?

Any feelings (or none) could arise when in the presence of people making… questionable choices, sometimes.
It could have been apathy, it could have been empathy, it could have been pity, it could have been curiosity, it could have been amusement, but here it’s unpleasantness and disgust, why?

You don’t owe me or anyone those answers, but they could be good questions to ask ourselves, “why did we react that way?” In order to better understand ourselves.

[Malkuth]

Stay with the process.

Let it all unfold.

Every time can be found somewhere on the clock.

You’ll hit them all before you’re done.

[MechaShaman]

I don’t know if this is part of my awakening journey, but I’m currently questioning spirituality as I understood it on a very deep level.
I’ve been re-examining systems I used to immerse myself in, such as Human Design, astrology, oracle cards, and other spiritual frameworks. At the core, many of these systems seem to rest on the same assumption: that reality, the universe, or some higher intelligence is inherently meaningful, intelligent, and orchestrated — that everything happens for a reason, that patterns run through everything, and that life is somehow planned.
And I’m beginning to question that completely.
Do these things actually reflect truth? Do planetary constellations really define me? Is pulling a card truly guidance from a higher source, or is it simply randomness onto which we project meaning? These are the questions I’m asking now.
Because I went very far down that road — the road of believing that everything is controlled, orchestrated, and meaningful in a spiritual sense. And it became extreme. Every choice became existential. Even making breakfast could feel like a question of whether I was aligning with my soul or moving away from my truth. Life became a constant pressure of “Am I moving toward awakening, or away from it?”
And now I’m asking a much simpler question: Does believing in these systems actually give me more freedom, or does it reduce my freedom? Does it make life lighter, or more constricted?
I’m also questioning the difference between spirituality and religion. More and more, I see how belief systems can be constructed not to create freedom, but to create more control, more inner conflict, and more pressure. I’ve seen this in fundamental Christianity, Hare Krishna, and other systems that speak of love, truth, and God — but then immediately create rules, behavioral codes, and inner pressure.
In my own life, those systems often ended up reenacting my childhood patterns and strengthening my inner critic rather than creating freedom. They did not feel loving. They felt constricting. They created a life of trying to “live from the soul” while constantly fighting the ego.
Now I’m going deeper into a different question: What if the “ego” is not simply something bad, but the hurt and adapted part of me? What if the “soul” is not something abstract, but the more alive, true, and unburdened part of me?
I’m trying to understand the dance between these parts — the dance between abundance and lack, truth and defense, openness and protection. And more than anything, I’m trying to learn how to be with myself even in states of lack, fear, or contraction, without punishing myself for them, without shaming myself, and without turning everything into a spiritual problem.
That feels more honest to me right now.