Very interesting thanks for sharing
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Did u reach lucidity by any chance? I have started ROD today
I think this is better suited for the subclub black forum.
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Agreed.
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The fact that everybody just kinda ignored this is crazy. This is TRULY a revelation. Gonna look into this.
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It is mindblowing. And one could even say that we are really… sleeping on it.
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OK, I’ll see myself out now
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I had RoD in my rotation not long ago, and had an interesting almost-lucid moment I’ve been sitting on to share.
I fell asleep laying on my arm, and had a very detailed dream involving my family members and some material relating to stuff I had been watching on YT.
Near the end of the dream I was laying in a bed in the dream falling asleep and drifting in and out of consciousness, when I was told one of my family members wanted to see me, and I better get up now. It was then in the dream I realized I was laying on my arm, just like in the physical body, and I couldn’t move to get up. As I struggled to move my arm in the dream I almost went lucid and then returned to my physical body, still laying on my arm.
Attempting to fall asleep within a dream and having my dead arm bleed into the dream was very meta, and I’m tempted to play around with it again next rotation. So far I have about 4 odd dream occurrences I could tie to RoD, and I’m definitely under-utilizing it.
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This same experience just happened again in a different form; it’s interesting its the same moon phase (one lunar cycle difference). I cannot see any connection to my astrological chart with the transiting moon, in fact there are no planets in that section of my chart, moon as I woke up this time is in the first degree of Capricorn in my presumed seventh house moving towards the eighth (last decan). It may have a connection to my guru, as I was listening to several old satsangs on Patanjali’s sutras and the siddhis; the last one before sleep was on awakening the biomemory.
This time rather than my arm, it was intense curiosity or trying to rationally solve a problem. In the dream plane I was cleaning up my room in a house that looked newly moved into, getting rid of garbage. I saw a bookcase containing a lot of books with hoary knowledge in it, but to access the bookshelf I had to bend down. I realized the bookshelf had to be at least one shelf higher in order to be optimum for me to use it.
As I start looking around and trying to solve the problem myself, I relate the problem to a parent figure (my mother, who is a retired teacher, hence quite possibly my guru in disguise). My parent answers me that they may be able to buy a completely new bookshelf for me soon, but I explain to them I’m sure I must be able to find items from around the room to put together the new shelf that have the right amount of tensile strength and size etc. I keep looking around the room for objects that can work.
When I can’t find any, my rational mind now fully awake in the dream decides to go look in another room for what I need to solve the problem, and I promptly wake up from the dream, immediately fully awake in my body.
So, first experience used physical sensations and trying to move a body part to go lucid, while this one used applying the rational mind to a problem in the dream. I have had RoD in my stack but again, several weeks ago.
Its possible there may be my gurus involvement here or meditation/awareness techniques prior to falling asleep aiding the level of lucidity, but all I can do for now is report a repeat experience of almost achieving lucidity with a RoD earlier in the month.
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Figured this was worth sharing for any RoD’ers out there.
I’m not a big fan of Winter because he talks in his own language and without a lot of work to understand him it sounds like he’s speaking gobblygook. But on this one he seems to be tying a few threads together.
I had a video I held off sharing earlier last week because I don’t like sharing things without them being verified, but there is a technique from the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra (and one that may come from a different agama) that are meant to enable to yogi to control their dreams. The one I saw on video described involves visually fixing in the mind the image of a person or place which is very pleasant to you and holding fast to that as you descend into sleep, making the image as real as possible, with one pointed concentration. The other one, for those who are interested in pursuing it, is Dharana 32, Verse 55 in Jaideva Singh’s version of the VBT.
Both of these techniques seem to be trying to create the same experience as Winter is describing with the implosion vortex, and making the energy of the brain very coherent and centripetal, in this case through the one pointed concentration on a beloved person or teacher (the technique can take some time to begin to function, up to 10 days of serious attempts in a row). It’s an attempt to create a strange attractor of consciousness like those mentioned by Grinberg.
What Winter doesn’t seem to get, or if he does he’s talking around it, is around 6:30 or 6:40 into the video where he’s speaking about eyeless sight, is that is a shakti developed after ajna is opened (as is the teleportation he briefly mentions). So basically it’s stabilizing the ajna and the energy field of the ajna and crown (via these meditation techniques or the biofeedback techniques they are using) that allows lucid dreaming to be consistently replicable.
Which of course would explain why I have only been mildly successful, since my thoughts can go all over the map 
Hoping this video is helpful to someone.
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I realize you all are discussing lucid dreaming but I saw this 
( the video in my previous post) and it got me thinking more about something I can’t seem to let go of. That the more knowledge a person gains , the broader perspective, and the awareness else can come with a heavy price and burden
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