Main Disc. Thread - The Revelation of Dreams ZP

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#176

Yes, I got this without running RoD, so imagine what it would be like if I did.

I used to have lucid dreams much more frequently as a teenager, and even OBE’S.

After doing a bit of research, it turns out that spinning is one of the techniques that can be used to stabilise a lucid dream, because the excitement of having one can bump you out.

After I wrote my post, I noticed the spinning top above. Coincidence?

Perhaps the free will scripting is kicking into effect or the New Subliminal Experience.

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#177

You seem like a natural; you’re gonna have a blast on RoD. It’s unbelievably inspiring, entertaining and fulfilling that one would get addicted to dreaming if it were not for the safety scripting.

I’d get excited for sleeping, the lucidity is full-scale, I am talking about feeling with your physical body. It’s what those VR experiences ought to be, you know? Complete immersive experience.

That’s why I asked. It was the first thing that crossed my mind; but then you inferred that youre have yet to jump into RoD, so i got surprised. It’s one of many techniques, and was surprised that

I had one where I saw my reflection in a pool of water and another time in mirror in a restroom.

Another where I had to make a decision on taking a leap from peak into an ocean. Another where I’d walk into a bright narrow corridor with many doors closed on each side of the hallway.

They can get quite creative.

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#178

One of my favourite lucid dreams wss walking along on a beautiful path with all these wonderful scenes of creation around me, and suddenly it was as if someone pressed a pause button and nothing was moving but as I looked up and around at the objects I could see these equations linked to each one, like source code. Mathematics and formulas were written in the sky next to a rainbow…If only we could record them and play them back… Grand unified field theory might be etched in there.

Apparently, dreams are projected onto our retina, so it may be possible. There was way too much information for me to have woken up and put in a journal.

Also, I recall a spate of dreams once that lasted a week. These were intense and never had ones of this kind before or since. In these dreams, I was meeting up with other people who were asleep in the physical, but we were in each other’s dream, having a shared dream experience.

Didn’t even know those existed until I googled it.

Others of flying through portals to new worlds, which felt like a mission to convey important messages.

And ones where I would hear music that I never recognised but sounded perfect and meant to be.

When you experience things in the lucid state that defy description, how should that be approached. It was always a challenge. My interest is sparked up again.

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#179

Not heard this. I’m intrigued though.

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#180

Revelation of Dreams is a spiritual title :wink:

I had those dreams before :smiley: how incredible is that. In many different variations.

Physical bodies hooked onto a shared dream machine. Another from that scene of inception where they’re all hooked onto the dream world. Another where it was in a desert where people were just lying around on rugs and sleeping bags. They came in many forms, but sharing the same trope.

The dreams that seem to last an eternity recure once or twice a week. I surprisingly wake up refreshed, despite finding out that I still got hours more to sleep.

Doors, gates and crumbling medieval magical portals for me. Did you feel like a strong urge, an energy propelling you to move forward into them when standing before it?

It’s all perfect in there. Everything’s just rightfully where and what it should be. An artistic perfection. I wish I could replicate what I experience in there. Someday, after I master oil painting, writing, filming, and a whole bunch of things. That Vampire couldn’t come any sooner :disappointed:

Also, there are songs and classical composition that were created from within their dreams. Hendrix and beetles had one each, and I want to say debussy or liszt.

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#181

As in you confirmed with them they had the same dreams too? Robert Waggoner talks about this quite a bit.

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#182

What have people noticed from ROD? This is a sub I always been kinda interested in but never put in my stack

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#183

Yes once, that week when I had them, I met a girl (with others in a small group) but I chatted with her and we both were amazed at our shared dream experience. We knew it was real and that both our bodies were in bed asleep. So we got this idea to exchange phone numbers. This part was hard because when I get overexcited in the lucid state, it often causes loss of focus and I snap right out of it, but I managed to maintain. After I woke up, I was able to recall the number and I dialled it. She answered and confirmed that it was both of us in the dream.

Though we never did chat again, but at that age it freaked me out a bit and we lost contact.

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#184

On my second week of RoD now. Dreams not really noticing much.

But in day to day life I notice a strengthening of subconscious and conscious communication. There’s more ease with communicating ideas. Hard to describe. I also notice connections, it seems to strengthen my inner guidance system and lead me to interesting stuff that might help me grow or improve in some way.

Also in some ways it’s made reality seem more fluid vs concrete. Kind of dream like in the sense where you go lucid and you have more control over things.

Also it seems to activate my tendency to just think in really abstract terms and zoomed out on life in general. For example, sleep. As a societal thing it’s pretty routine. But it’s kind of wild for 8 hours of your life (give or take) every night something else is going on that you barely have a conscious understanding of. I’ve been starting to think with how these subs are processed, what if dreaming or sleep is essentially loading up the film reel that gets projected onto the following day? And if you had more control over the content for those 8 hours to give you what you need for tomorrow you set yourself up for success.

Stuff like that. It’s a cool sub. Still not 100% sure how it’ll integrate long term for me, but I kind of see it as an enhancement towards subconscious understanding for me.

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#186

Very interesting thanks for sharing

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#188

Did u reach lucidity by any chance? I have started ROD today

#190

I think this is better suited for the subclub black forum.

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#191

Agreed.

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#192

The fact that everybody just kinda ignored this is crazy. This is TRULY a revelation. Gonna look into this.

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#193

It is mindblowing. And one could even say that we are really… sleeping on it.

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OK, I’ll see myself out now

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#194

I had RoD in my rotation not long ago, and had an interesting almost-lucid moment I’ve been sitting on to share.

I fell asleep laying on my arm, and had a very detailed dream involving my family members and some material relating to stuff I had been watching on YT.

Near the end of the dream I was laying in a bed in the dream falling asleep and drifting in and out of consciousness, when I was told one of my family members wanted to see me, and I better get up now. It was then in the dream I realized I was laying on my arm, just like in the physical body, and I couldn’t move to get up. As I struggled to move my arm in the dream I almost went lucid and then returned to my physical body, still laying on my arm.

Attempting to fall asleep within a dream and having my dead arm bleed into the dream was very meta, and I’m tempted to play around with it again next rotation. So far I have about 4 odd dream occurrences I could tie to RoD, and I’m definitely under-utilizing it.

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#195

This same experience just happened again in a different form; it’s interesting its the same moon phase (one lunar cycle difference). I cannot see any connection to my astrological chart with the transiting moon, in fact there are no planets in that section of my chart, moon as I woke up this time is in the first degree of Capricorn in my presumed seventh house moving towards the eighth (last decan). It may have a connection to my guru, as I was listening to several old satsangs on Patanjali’s sutras and the siddhis; the last one before sleep was on awakening the biomemory.

This time rather than my arm, it was intense curiosity or trying to rationally solve a problem. In the dream plane I was cleaning up my room in a house that looked newly moved into, getting rid of garbage. I saw a bookcase containing a lot of books with hoary knowledge in it, but to access the bookshelf I had to bend down. I realized the bookshelf had to be at least one shelf higher in order to be optimum for me to use it.

As I start looking around and trying to solve the problem myself, I relate the problem to a parent figure (my mother, who is a retired teacher, hence quite possibly my guru in disguise). My parent answers me that they may be able to buy a completely new bookshelf for me soon, but I explain to them I’m sure I must be able to find items from around the room to put together the new shelf that have the right amount of tensile strength and size etc. I keep looking around the room for objects that can work.

When I can’t find any, my rational mind now fully awake in the dream decides to go look in another room for what I need to solve the problem, and I promptly wake up from the dream, immediately fully awake in my body.

So, first experience used physical sensations and trying to move a body part to go lucid, while this one used applying the rational mind to a problem in the dream. I have had RoD in my stack but again, several weeks ago.

Its possible there may be my gurus involvement here or meditation/awareness techniques prior to falling asleep aiding the level of lucidity, but all I can do for now is report a repeat experience of almost achieving lucidity with a RoD earlier in the month.

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#196

Figured this was worth sharing for any RoD’ers out there.

I’m not a big fan of Winter because he talks in his own language and without a lot of work to understand him it sounds like he’s speaking gobblygook. But on this one he seems to be tying a few threads together.

I had a video I held off sharing earlier last week because I don’t like sharing things without them being verified, but there is a technique from the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra (and one that may come from a different agama) that are meant to enable to yogi to control their dreams. The one I saw on video described involves visually fixing in the mind the image of a person or place which is very pleasant to you and holding fast to that as you descend into sleep, making the image as real as possible, with one pointed concentration. The other one, for those who are interested in pursuing it, is Dharana 32, Verse 55 in Jaideva Singh’s version of the VBT.

Both of these techniques seem to be trying to create the same experience as Winter is describing with the implosion vortex, and making the energy of the brain very coherent and centripetal, in this case through the one pointed concentration on a beloved person or teacher (the technique can take some time to begin to function, up to 10 days of serious attempts in a row). It’s an attempt to create a strange attractor of consciousness like those mentioned by Grinberg.

What Winter doesn’t seem to get, or if he does he’s talking around it, is around 6:30 or 6:40 into the video where he’s speaking about eyeless sight, is that is a shakti developed after ajna is opened (as is the teleportation he briefly mentions). So basically it’s stabilizing the ajna and the energy field of the ajna and crown (via these meditation techniques or the biofeedback techniques they are using) that allows lucid dreaming to be consistently replicable.

Which of course would explain why I have only been mildly successful, since my thoughts can go all over the map :stuck_out_tongue:

Hoping this video is helpful to someone.

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#198

I realize you all are discussing lucid dreaming but I saw this :point_up: ( the video in my previous post) and it got me thinking more about something I can’t seem to let go of. That the more knowledge a person gains , the broader perspective, and the awareness else can come with a heavy price and burden

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