Main Disc. Thread - The Revelation of Dreams ZP

[Phoermes]

@Starman

One of my favourite lucid dreams wss walking along on a beautiful path with all these wonderful scenes of creation around me, and suddenly it was as if someone pressed a pause button and nothing was moving but as I looked up and around at the objects I could see these equations linked to each one, like source code. Mathematics and formulas were written in the sky next to a rainbow…If only we could record them and play them back… Grand unified field theory might be etched in there.

Revelation of Dreams is a spiritual title

@Starman

Also, I recall a spate of dreams once that lasted a week. These were intense and never had ones of this kind before or since. In these dreams, I was meeting up with other people who were asleep in the physical, but we were in each other’s dream, having a shared dream experience.

I had those dreams before how incredible is that. In many different variations.

Physical bodies hooked onto a shared dream machine. Another from that scene of inception where they’re all hooked onto the dream world. Another where it was in a desert where people were just lying around on rugs and sleeping bags. They came in many forms, but sharing the same trope.

The dreams that seem to last an eternity recure once or twice a week. I surprisingly wake up refreshed, despite finding out that I still got hours more to sleep.

@Starman

Others of flying through portals to new worlds, which felt like a mission to convey important messages.

Doors, gates and crumbling medieval magical portals for me. Did you feel like a strong urge, an energy propelling you to move forward into them when standing before it?

@Starman

And ones where I would hear music that I never recognised but sounded perfect and meant to be.

When you experience things in the lucid state that defy description, how should that be approached. It was always a challenge. My interest is sparked up again.

It’s all perfect in there. Everything’s just rightfully where and what it should be. An artistic perfection. I wish I could replicate what I experience in there. Someday, after I master oil painting, writing, filming, and a whole bunch of things. That Vampire couldn’t come any sooner

Also, there are songs and classical composition that were created from within their dreams. Hendrix and beetles had one each, and I want to say debussy or liszt.

[Trader]

@Starman

In these dreams, I was meeting up with other people who were asleep in the physical, but we were in each other’s dream, having a shared dream experience.

As in you confirmed with them they had the same dreams too? Robert Waggoner talks about this quite a bit.

[SwedishBuddha]

What have people noticed from ROD? This is a sub I always been kinda interested in but never put in my stack

[Starman]

Yes once, that week when I had them, I met a girl (with others in a small group) but I chatted with her and we both were amazed at our shared dream experience. We knew it was real and that both our bodies were in bed asleep. So we got this idea to exchange phone numbers. This part was hard because when I get overexcited in the lucid state, it often causes loss of focus and I snap right out of it, but I managed to maintain. After I woke up, I was able to recall the number and I dialled it. She answered and confirmed that it was both of us in the dream.

Though we never did chat again, but at that age it freaked me out a bit and we lost contact.

[Fractal_Explorer]

On my second week of RoD now. Dreams not really noticing much.

But in day to day life I notice a strengthening of subconscious and conscious communication. There’s more ease with communicating ideas. Hard to describe. I also notice connections, it seems to strengthen my inner guidance system and lead me to interesting stuff that might help me grow or improve in some way.

Also in some ways it’s made reality seem more fluid vs concrete. Kind of dream like in the sense where you go lucid and you have more control over things.

Also it seems to activate my tendency to just think in really abstract terms and zoomed out on life in general. For example, sleep. As a societal thing it’s pretty routine. But it’s kind of wild for 8 hours of your life (give or take) every night something else is going on that you barely have a conscious understanding of. I’ve been starting to think with how these subs are processed, what if dreaming or sleep is essentially loading up the film reel that gets projected onto the following day? And if you had more control over the content for those 8 hours to give you what you need for tomorrow you set yourself up for success.

Stuff like that. It’s a cool sub. Still not 100% sure how it’ll integrate long term for me, but I kind of see it as an enhancement towards subconscious understanding for me.

[SwedishBuddha]

Very interesting thanks for sharing

[Matrix]

Did u reach lucidity by any chance? I have started ROD today

[Parsifal]

I think this is better suited for the subclub black forum.

[Fire]

@Parsifal

I think this is better suited for the subclub black forum.

Agreed.

[manatee]

The fact that everybody just kinda ignored this is crazy. This is TRULY a revelation. Gonna look into this.

[Athanaxos]

@manatee

The fact that everybody just kinda ignored this is crazy.

It is mindblowing. And one could even say that we are really… sleeping on it.

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OK, I’ll see myself out now

[emperor_obewan]

I had RoD in my rotation not long ago, and had an interesting almost-lucid moment I’ve been sitting on to share.

I fell asleep laying on my arm, and had a very detailed dream involving my family members and some material relating to stuff I had been watching on YT.

Near the end of the dream I was laying in a bed in the dream falling asleep and drifting in and out of consciousness, when I was told one of my family members wanted to see me, and I better get up now. It was then in the dream I realized I was laying on my arm, just like in the physical body, and I couldn’t move to get up. As I struggled to move my arm in the dream I almost went lucid and then returned to my physical body, still laying on my arm.

Attempting to fall asleep within a dream and having my dead arm bleed into the dream was very meta, and I’m tempted to play around with it again next rotation. So far I have about 4 odd dream occurrences I could tie to RoD, and I’m definitely under-utilizing it.

[emperor_obewan]

This same experience just happened again in a different form; it’s interesting its the same moon phase (one lunar cycle difference). I cannot see any connection to my astrological chart with the transiting moon, in fact there are no planets in that section of my chart, moon as I woke up this time is in the first degree of Capricorn in my presumed seventh house moving towards the eighth (last decan). It may have a connection to my guru, as I was listening to several old satsangs on Patanjali’s sutras and the siddhis; the last one before sleep was on awakening the biomemory.

This time rather than my arm, it was intense curiosity or trying to rationally solve a problem. In the dream plane I was cleaning up my room in a house that looked newly moved into, getting rid of garbage. I saw a bookcase containing a lot of books with hoary knowledge in it, but to access the bookshelf I had to bend down. I realized the bookshelf had to be at least one shelf higher in order to be optimum for me to use it.

As I start looking around and trying to solve the problem myself, I relate the problem to a parent figure (my mother, who is a retired teacher, hence quite possibly my guru in disguise). My parent answers me that they may be able to buy a completely new bookshelf for me soon, but I explain to them I’m sure I must be able to find items from around the room to put together the new shelf that have the right amount of tensile strength and size etc. I keep looking around the room for objects that can work.

When I can’t find any, my rational mind now fully awake in the dream decides to go look in another room for what I need to solve the problem, and I promptly wake up from the dream, immediately fully awake in my body.

So, first experience used physical sensations and trying to move a body part to go lucid, while this one used applying the rational mind to a problem in the dream. I have had RoD in my stack but again, several weeks ago.

Its possible there may be my gurus involvement here or meditation/awareness techniques prior to falling asleep aiding the level of lucidity, but all I can do for now is report a repeat experience of almost achieving lucidity with a RoD earlier in the month.

[emperor_obewan]

Anna and Dan - LUCID DREAMING - Unlocking Lucidity: Vortex Geometry & Dan: SCIENCE of Lucid Dreaming

Figured this was worth sharing for any RoD’ers out there.

I’m not a big fan of Winter because he talks in his own language and without a lot of work to understand him it sounds like he’s speaking gobblygook. But on this one he seems to be tying a few threads together.

I had a video I held off sharing earlier last week because I don’t like sharing things without them being verified, but there is a technique from the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra (and one that may come from a different agama) that are meant to enable to yogi to control their dreams. The one I saw on video described involves visually fixing in the mind the image of a person or place which is very pleasant to you and holding fast to that as you descend into sleep, making the image as real as possible, with one pointed concentration. The other one, for those who are interested in pursuing it, is Dharana 32, Verse 55 in Jaideva Singh’s version of the VBT.

Both of these techniques seem to be trying to create the same experience as Winter is describing with the implosion vortex, and making the energy of the brain very coherent and centripetal, in this case through the one pointed concentration on a beloved person or teacher (the technique can take some time to begin to function, up to 10 days of serious attempts in a row). It’s an attempt to create a strange attractor of consciousness like those mentioned by Grinberg.

What Winter doesn’t seem to get, or if he does he’s talking around it, is around 6:30 or 6:40 into the video where he’s speaking about eyeless sight, is that is a shakti developed after ajna is opened (as is the teleportation he briefly mentions). So basically it’s stabilizing the ajna and the energy field of the ajna and crown (via these meditation techniques or the biofeedback techniques they are using) that allows lucid dreaming to be consistently replicable.

Which of course would explain why I have only been mildly successful, since my thoughts can go all over the map

Hoping this video is helpful to someone.

[James]

Why Lucidity Feels Like a Curse | Reflections from Emil Cioran

[James]

I realize you all are discussing lucid dreaming but I saw this ( the video in my previous post) and it got me thinking more about something I can’t seem to let go of. That the more knowledge a person gains , the broader perspective, and the awareness else can come with a heavy price and burden

George Carlin - Stupid people

[Kyuss]

How about pairing up Revelation of Dreams with Essence: Clear sight?
Will that boost lucidity or details within dreams?

[SoulFire]

Very underrated sub, I haven’t had a lucid dream yet but the impact of the dreams I’m having is incredible.

This right here

@SaintSovereign

Cultivate a sense of power and authority while dreaming, dissolving all fears and limitations in regards to producing whatever dream imagery you’d like while lucid dreaming.

Brings a whole new dimension to the effect that subliminal usage has.

Every single dream I have since starting this sub I am on top of it and in control.

It’s incredibly empowering to face every dream experience and especially challenging ones and come up with solutions and end up resolving every situation.

I also wake up feeling very awake and refreshed thanks to the included paragon sleep scripting.

The dreams themselves are more intense, I am much more present in it so it feels like a waking life experience when I remember them, with the same impact on me that a waking life experience has.

I’m looking forward to lucid dreaming, I should probably start practicing reality checks to make it happen faster.

But I’m not in a hurry, the effect this sub has on empowering my 8h in bed is already a huge win.

[SoulFire]

Revelation of Dreams, by the nature of its objectives and the subject matter, is helping bridge, widen and increase communication between my subconscious and my conscious awareness.

Naturally more awareness within the dreamworld which is subconscious land means more awareness of the subconscious mind which is not a separate entity from the conscious mind but an extension so this awareness extends to the waking state where it’s helping me heal/shift my perspective further, releasing more limitations and bringing more of the flexibility and creative freedom and infinite potentiality that exist at the deeper less limited subconscious level.

Simply put, I am going deeper into the realization that my life is a dream that I get to create freely at every moment, the only limits to my experience are the ones I intentionally or unconsciously set, and obviously some specific limits in the physical world like gravity, etc.

I believe these limits can also be overridden but that’s a different conversation.

If YOUR Life IS Just A Dream, then...

[SoulFire]

I’m moving out today and found this behind a door while cleaning the place.