Perhaps run khan stage 1 Total Smash Up.
I’m speaking from my own experience, suggesting running Phoenix along with Primal and SSX. I needed shifts on the identity level to really embrace the quintessence of being a Primal man and start getting far better results on SSX, overcoming my old, lousy, seduction patterns with Phoenix.
Total Breakdown could be the next natural step but I don’t think it would be necessary after running the stack I recommend (Phoenix+Primal+SSX) long enough (meaning till you’re satisfied with your new you and results you’re getting).
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Since you don’t even approach what you can do is to go an approach like 100 girls and just try to get rejected or behave how you think a creep would behave. You can even say “hi I’m a creep I came to say hi” hahaha once they start talking to you, you can just say that you feel a bit shy and you wanted to do this fun experiment and then take it from there. Btw what matters is not what you say but the feeling you convey to her so focus on that. The goal of this exercise is to try to get rejected and face the worst fear you have in your head.
What you can also do is just go up to girls and tell them straight up that they are cute and you wanted to talk to them but was hesitating because you felt like it could be creepy. that could also be a good approach to see who you really match with.
You got this!
Honestly just approach and ps will do the rest for you. And also watch some YouTube videos for the problems you are facing, that’s how I started and there’s very helpful info there from professionals that have approached 1000s of women
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That’s what wanted solo does for me. And I’ve seen better results than ps. So if I’m in a club I just wait to get looks from girls (on wanted most girls will be looking at me lol) and then I just strike conversations in a very socially calibrated way they kind of just happen. I’m basically flirting like a girl would without showing my intentions. And then we naturally go deeper in the convo and then almost always something will happen. But the most important thing is to not show intent directly because in a club that would blow the set out. Many times girls open me on wanted so you can even go out alone on it but just be aware that you’re going to be addicted and start neglecting other things. That’s why i haven’t run this beast for a year, I will go crazy on women
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I dress well and am naturally charismatic and flirt with everyone regardless if they are man woman, young or old.
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Interesting, and you’re talking about the OG wanted, not wanted black?
Yeah og wanted, never tried wanted black
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@SaintSovereign @Malkuth @Sub.Zero @TheEmpress @Lion @Jouissance @Fractal_Explorer
First, I want to express my gratitude for the valuable guidance to my questions; it’s genuinely appreciated. As I delve deeper into utilizing subliminals for personal development, I have a few questions. Your expertise would be greatly beneficial in clarifying these points:
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Listening Schedule & Duration: Is alternating days for listening to PN, Heart Song, and Genesis Mogul (3 subs) effective? I’m considering a maximum of 15 minutes, Could you recommend an optimal listening duration for these three, based on your experience, to avoid any potential reconciliation?
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Expected Outcomes: I’m keen on understanding the range of short-term to long-term results from combining PN and Heart Song, particularly in the context of attracting ideal sexual partners and navigating from initial encounters to meaningful relationships. How impactful are these subliminals in scenarios like online dating, seduction phases, and ultimately finding a soulmate and marriage?
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Synergy and Scripts: Does PN encapsulate the essence of primal seduction within its script? I’m curious if my personal dating experiences can synergize with these scripts for enhanced success.
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Combining Heart Song with PN: How do Heart Song and PN complement each other? What specific results or transformations should I anticipate from their synergy?
Your insights will significantly influence my approach and expectations. I’m looking forward to your guidance and advice on these matters.
Yep summarises my experience perfectly haha
I don’t listen to PS so I’m not helpful with anything relating to that. 
I did however reply to your question on another post about listening schedule.
Hey @SaintSovereign.
What do you think about stacking new khan with new primal seduction? Redundant or do they complement each other regarding seduction?
Thanks.
I ran the very first loop of PS today. I was more dominant for the whole day and got more attention from women.
I went to a nightclub to see how it gels with WB… it does MAGNIFICENTLY.
WB boosts my natural cool and self-sufficiency, and when a female, rakish coquette approached me, flinging her arms around me to tease me, when she was passing by, I stayed non-reactive and only smiled at her. Then, seeing my cool attitude, she started teasing two guys in front of me. It didn’t work as I stayed non-reactive, so she put her arm around my waist. I did the same, and we started bouncing our hips against each other’s. I slipped my hand down to her thigh and kept it there firmly when bouncing.
I grabbed her other thigh and moved her so that I was behind her and I started bouncing my loins against her ass. I did it without thinking and that surprised her. Positively, since she teased me back, spanking my ass twice. Then we started bouncing each other’s asses.
She thought it was enough to have me chase her so she went back to teasing those two guys. It didn’t work.
I moved to dance somewhere else, and then she approached me again, and spanked my ass. We started bouncing again with my hand firmly holding her around her waist. She mirrored it with her hand. She released my waist. I did the same within a second. She spanked me again and grabbed my breast. Then, she went away.
I went back to the previous spot to keep dancing. She showed up and I teased her back, grabbing her breast twice, she resisted playfully. She tried teasing me with talking to one of the two guys she had teased before. It didn’t work yet again. She approached me with a friend of hers. I spanked the friend’s ass to her surprise and satisfaction. Then I tried to spank the coquet, but she dodged.
I kept dancing and enjoying myself. In three minutes somebody touched my arm, I turned my head back. It was the coquet. She showed me her middle finger and shouted to me “fuck you!” I turned my head back, keeping my cool and I kept dancing, and enjoying myself.
I moved elsewhere, and I was dancing seductively behind some hottie (I didn’t engage in dancing with her) and I saw the coquet eyeing me.
15 minutes passed and I simulated (it was a test) leaving the club but I went to the toilet. When I was back, the coquet and her friends had been gone out.
Why did I describe all of that?
I could see the whole dynamic of this experience and clearly discern that WB made me apply “seductive jujitsu” where I used every action of the coquet to propel the seduction, without investing in it more than she did, by simply mirroring her actions. That made her work on the seduction harder, although she tried to reverse the dynamics and make me do the work. I refused. Ultimately, the desire and the frustration overwhelmed her and she got aggressive (showing the middle finger and saying “fuck you”).
On the other hand, PS helped me get physical with her, and tease her. How do I know it was PS? On WB I didn’t even feel the desire to get physical with women. On PS it “just happened,” and it was as natural as breathing.
How do I see both working together?
WB lures into my “cobweb” (WB’s vibe), and PS urges me to pounce on the “prey” when it’s still “alive” (in the game), and “toy” (actively leading her through the “hot and cold game”) with her so that I can keep wrapping her with the “cobweb” (WB’s intoxicating vibe).
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Can anyone find Saint’s post on SSX and PS? He mentioned something interesting about that combo that I’m trying to quote for.
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PS + SSX: If you’re having really hard time with romance subs and need to hone your skills.
I’m running WB + SSX (and New Khan)
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There you go! I wanted to find this as a potential combo. New city, new life, new situation.
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I’m really excited about upgraded SMX3…
I actually have original Qv1 custom
With PS & SMX and wanted to upgrade it to ZPv2 but SMX still in the wind
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Is this announced to be done soon?
Nope. Just a release I am excited about.
There are so many great titles yet to upgraded…
a Herculean task for sure.
Is this good for approach anxiety and overall shyness like looking at girls in the eyes? Someone can review of this product?
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For me personally Primal the OG has been a belter for that - it removes my ‘limitation’ in doing what I want. Was PAINFULLY shy before running it and would always look down passing people, a month on Primal and it was sorted, was saying hello to random people. Can’t talk for Seduction though, but I imagine it would help!
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