will primal / PS get a zp2 update? i wanna maybe switch from WB, but it being zp v2 along with PN being zp v2 just seems too perfect
Primal and PS already have the latest tech (ZP2Max + NSE).
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thanks, in the description it’s written that they only have ZP, how do I know which titles have zp2 max or not? does wb have the max version + NSE?
All titles released/updated Nov '23 or later contain the NSE. (It’s mentioned in the downloads.)
WB was updated Nov '23, so got the NSE.
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Anyone doing primal, primal nights and primal seduction in a stack or custom together?
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Hey @NatureDad
Just out of curiosity, why are you deciding to switch from WB to Primal/Primal seduction? I recall you having really good results with WB so that’s why I’m asking
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Wouldn’t at least in Primal Seduction’s case, you could hasten the results by pairing it with Primal? Because Primal has more to do with the mindset that gets to to initiate and follow through, whereas Primal Seduction has more to do with the seduction in and of itself. Unless I’m reading/ understanding the copy wrong
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I still do, I’m considering it, not necessarily going for it yet. I got back to subs just this month and this time around with the improved zp it’s actually working, so I’m curious to sniff around and see who does what and what does who.
Realistically I’m just horny and want to have more success but I already have success.
Sometimes I think to myself “I want to be more aggressive” but then I look in the mirror and realize just how aggressive I already am haha.
End of the day, I’m sure both are phenomenal and will suit different sides of my personality (charming leader, enfj-A) But I’ll stick to WB due to both money and extra physical shifting.
I was thinking that too
Is scripting longer on this than WB? I know it reads that the scripting is longer, however I’m not up to date with WB’s updates and if the script got updated after PS got released.
From what I remember you writing, like about your one friend, Wanted Black would be your style… I have little experience with PS… only used one cycle recently.
Bro that sentence should be deleted from your vocabulary and never thought of ever.
The second u worry about looking like a creep you manifest looking like a creep. Our brain can’t deal well with “not X” statements… The thing u don’t want most is the thing u think about most so it manifests itself.
One framework is never caring about what she thinks. Like not trying to impress her or worrying if she likes you or not. Just assume she likes you. If your decently fit and not ugly… your good enough for like 99% of girls. Lmao. It’s not looks it’s just pure energy. How u feel will transfer to her
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It’s all an individual matter as we’re not the same, and the missing link can be even the place where you live (we’re talking about PS right now). Like in Hanoi, women are not really interested in me or they just don’t show their interest but once I arrive in Thailad I’m getting IOIs all the time.
However, most of the time it’s the essential work that needs to get done and Primal+SSX are perfect for the job.
Primal is more essential as it eradicats social anxiety, improves your social skills, and taps into your masculinity and sexuality.
SSX is great for initiating you into the art of seduction, helping you discover your desires and your unique seduction blueprint.
You need to identify yourself what’s missing and work on it.
Both titles can be paired up with PS, even at the same time.
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Or… Khan 
oh ？mind if ask ，why do you say that ？and what about eastern dude ？ 
It’s an individual matter. If you struggle with social anxiety, your social skills are low, you have issues around your masculinity and sexuality, you don’t know what you really want “from” women/sex, and you didn’t develop your unique seduction blueprint, then you should rather run Primal+SSX than PS as it would provide you with “better” experiences, and a faster and better self-development path.
However, all of that doesn’t take into account your unique psychological makeup, your objective limitations, your daily intents or the amount and kind of action you take on a daily basis (plus some less important factors), so only you can answer your own question with the utmost accuracy.
I encourage you to get familiar with Economy of Subliminal Experience I posted on the forums. Here:
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I cannot wait for the Love Bomb upgrade to finally be released!
Btw, about this whole approach anxiety discussion here, approaching girls with the Love Bomb aura makes it super effortless because you are literally projecting love onto them and so you automatically become the “bringer of light” to them and then there is simply no way you can judge yourself or question yourself of why you are approaching them in the first place.
Your ego has no arguments left of why “it would be not okay to approach her”, because you are literally bringing to her the gift of unconditional love.
That’s why Genesis is so wonderful with its Libertine and Love Bomb aura inside of it and I will continue to advocate for Libertine and Love Bomb auras to be added to every seduction and romance title as standard necessary features 
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Thats a good point, need to test this
@SaintSovereign Hey saint, I’ve a very, very big question about Wanted Black and Primal Seduction.
So far I’ve been using WB alomg with Primal Nights, and I’ve been getting very positive results in regards to charisma, people skills, and yes, a good bunch of attraction and seduction. HOWEVER!
I feel that I while I am active in pursuing, I want to be more aggressive, and truly captivate the one I’m after, connecting soul to soul, which is why I’m considering Primal Seduction heavily.
My fear is that the social aspects will take a hit compared to WB, I know that PS has less physical shifting already, and while it’s a shame, it’s something I can work with. However, a hit to the charisma and my leadership skills.
I’m wondering if I should switch WB for PS, or switch PN with PS.
I think my brain can handle both PS and WB, I’m fairly gifted when it comes to this regard.
I’m wondering, what is your opinion on the matter, should I stick to WB+PN? Switch WB for PS? Switch PN for PS? Maybe stack all of em together?
This has been already answered somewhere on this forum