We’re writing pages and pages of copy to explain exactly where these products are and the differences and people just aren’t reading them.
You all asked for more advanced products, and the differences between PS, WB, and SSX are by blatant if you the copy.
Honestly, I think the differences aren’t going to be obvious to people until they try it for themselves. I’ve always thought of myself more as a passive “be chased” kind of person, but so far PS has given me more results than WB did. It’s easy to second guess your own archetype incorrectly.
I think the best advice for people is going to be to get them to try these themselves and see which gives them the quickest early results. Maybe a future suggestion could be to combine the two based on how the person’s subconscious understands its own archetype. Like maybe some kind of wording about whichever one comes closest to its own personal position. But combining the two would make for a very complicated script and I don’t know if its a practical idea.
I share this thought with you
Even my own relationship feels so much better and more love filled (“very lovey dovey” as my girlfriend describes it), even though I thought that PS was originally for single guys.
In my view:
Am I in the right ballpark here?
My first experience of PS was just before my first and only custom, the Merlin’s Rejoicing one with Stark and PS cores. I ran the cores separately to get some experience with them. I feel my experience with PS back then had a bit of a flavor of what I now assume is the PCC vibe. Understanding peoples intentions is important when you’re trying to pull someone who has the same relationship intentions as you do, and mine clued me in to the psychology of the partner I was connected with at the time, which turned out not to be in alignment with what I wanted, since she had low self esteem issues.
I suspect that a lot of people who come to this forum for the subs just wanting to get laid don’t really have the right plan of attack and sometimes they don’t even know their own intentions, or they lie to themselves about their own intentions.
To have the best chance to of pulling a girl, you need to be honest with yourself and also make sure the girl you’re pulling has the same kind of intentions, or intentions that align with your own.
Something in this PS version seems to have an aspect of PCC to it. I have bought and run a few loops of the new PCC, but I do think PS seems to have this itself, at least for the purpose it was built.
I can imagine (or rather I suspect) that having this understanding helps existing relationships as much as it helps people wanting to establish new ones. (EDIT: or to be more clear, maybe running PS helped you understand what your girl wanted more clearly and helped you to make that happen)
The feel and execution of the sub, yes. But the descriptions are very detailed. We’re trying to make our products more advanced, but if people can’t read the copy and understand, we can’t do that.
I have truly loved to read the copy of the later products. Gets you a real feel for how they will be.
I sometimes reread them to ingrain the image more. What I really like about PS that I did not notice in wanted is the appreciation for the feminine in a way.
It reminds me of what my mentor told me women are magic, Is it not crazy that you can have seen a beautiful girl 1000s of times and your brain still goes wow.
And what I really notice on PS is witnessing the subtleties of the feminine and it’s so magical.
Have you read the copy of the titles? Guys, the copy is long for a reason and I won’t be changing that.
Imagine if the copy was like.
Business go boom.
Women want you
Money now
Dominant and fun
What has your experience been of PS? Do you feel it has helped you understand the intentions of the women you have been interacting with, their feelings and desires?
I am by no means an expert or even a youngling in that area, but I’ve definitely noticed a “laying that shit bare” aka PCC kinda vibe from PS, and I haven’t even run a lot of PCC.
I appreciate your posts because of the radical honesty you have about your own internal state when you’re approaching, and I just wonder if you’ve noticed PS talking to you about that kind of stuff, helping your intuition. EDIT: that might not be the right way to describe it, otherwise one might say “well duh”, but I’ve certainly noticed a more direct connection with reality in the limited experience I’ve had using it.
So this is actually wrong ??
Not necessarily wrong, it’s just more complicated than that. There is no “most potent” or “most well balanced”, you just read the copies and see which resonates with your goals more.
New Stack Building Recommendation: Run limitless solo for a full cycle then read the sales copy of the titles you are considering.
Well honestly I could do that before never ran pcc though. as I got into PUA like 10 years ago. What I have noticed is this sense of effortlessness and what really suprised me was how strong the pull to approach is when a girl is your type.
I almost got back into amoging a girls boyfriend because she was so my type that time kinda stopped. But I stopped myself because I would not like that to happen to me.
I expected PS to be very different, Like when it said Pursuer I was like just cause you approach don’t mean you chase. But that’s probably just a lingo meaning I got from PUA.
But instead you feel like a king walking around seeing if any magical feminine creature catches your attention and if she does you go in. And gift her with the experience of meeting you and yourself the experience of playing the dance of seduction with her.
On wanted I became a bit too laid back but that’s also probably because old habits.
And it’s faster to meet a girl by actually just going up to them then waiting for this magical moment to happen. Instead you create the magical moment.
I gotten very good at seeing my type of girl. So I don’t approach a girl just cause shes hot. I want her to have a hot body but more cutesy kinda vibe.
So if I just see a hot girl I just appreciate her physical beauty and move on.
But the pull when you see a girl your type is out of this world and I absolutely love it.
A bit sad it does not have same physical shifting as Wanted but I can run LOTS or something I guess. Now I want to make a custom with PS Primal and lovebomb. But waiting for love bomb update. Then maybe I run divine diamond now and then before dates.
On Sunday I’m going out for NYE so that’s when I will really get to test this sub.
Oh and the best thing is it does not feel pick up like. I got so done with technical game.
Pushing a girls buttons so she sleep with you just cause you trigger her buttons and actually have 0 interest in you. I want her to like me for me. If not then we are not meant to be
Like my mentor had a way to do game that had 100 sucess rate. Yea 100. It never failed if she was in the conversation for 3 minutes. But it ruins you completely in the end.
It just fills you with more and more darkness. No girls liking you you are just the guy that became the puppet master of her arousal. And she could not care less about you as a person.
Now I do a more genuine way of approaching which I’m enjoying way more. And meet girls that are much more my type and not just hot.
Like for sleeping with women technical game probably give you more results if you screen. But it will never be because of you. Just that you knew how to trigger her buttons.
Like I had a girlfriend for a while. And i was so into game I wanted to make her more obsessed. So I did something that broke her mentally psychologically. Not abuse but just vanishing for a bit.
Next day I had 72 missed calls 200 text messages. She was devastated. Yea I made her obsessed but for what reason.
My ego feeling a bit extra cool and the cost was making her feel horrible. I really was a asshole back in the days.
Care to share this?
It was a 47 minute long story routine that took him tons of practice to learn. You need to be a master story teller. Like A MASTER, most people he teached it got like 0 result.
Some learned and kept using it to sleep with tons of women and then feeling empty inside. Some probably still use it.
But basicaly the story triggered arousal submsisiveness, Confusion, Feeling worse than other women, Wanting to sleep with him to prove herself. And more.
Yeah that’s no good
I figured it was some MM type
Still decent framework
I only listened to the naturals
Yeah but being able to appreciate the difference between then and now probably helps you nowadays and may have even helped to define your current approach.
I feel like it is a good thing to read about your prior experience on this thread. It is important that those who are passive reading these threads don’t see your own great results and say “this can be our own experience” (without having enough moths or years of experience with approach to be comfortable with it). But I was impressed with the limited results I saw from the new PS from running it only a few days. I suppose like I said earlier all people can do really is run the thing and see how it does them.
How much do you think your own prior experience prepped you for PS?