I agree with this actually. The current Primal titles are already close to artisan levels in script length I believe, so there is no need to create a Primal Black. I would rather see updates of the old titles.
They can also be stacked with other seduction titles to create a specific and more powerful effect. Khan Black + PS, or PS + PN, or Primal + WB.
Primal Black just has a ring to it though don’t y’all think? wouldn’t you want to see an even more wild and untamed version of primal? those words are basically meant for it.
but maybe that’s just me though idk
Primal Black sounds totally sexy, but it kinda needs something different than just More Primal.
I love Primal because it is so finely calibrated: NGAF, but acutely aware of all social dynamics, unshackled but very much relaxed.
PB would need a different, a new aspect, an unique edge.
P, PN, PR, PS cover a lot of ground already.
Yeah, these titles are already quite calibrated. I don’t know if making them stronger is necessarily helpful.
I like the idea of a Primal Complete. But I guess Primal Seduction is already one of the most complete seduction titles.
I’m considering the idea of a Primal name embed.
Anyone have any suggestions for good bonus modules? Which one did or would you pick?
Not really. I can do that with regular primal. Primal helps me live on my own terms. If I want to feel wilder and untamed, I just do it. Thats why I asked about specifics. If it’s just more of the same, I’d pass.
Pretty much why I don’t feel every title needs a ‘black’ upgrade.
Long term goals? What else are you running? Etc.
I can possibly see a two stage Primal where ST1 deals with neutralising of some of the more harmful messages about masculinity, stabilising and plugging up the shame leaks, then ST2 is the full experience. But Ascension kinda does that already.
What would a Primal Black title do more than it does already? Sounds like Khan without the empire building.
I’m asking in general, I’m curious how other people use their Primals.
For me specifically, I would be running it alongside Wanted/WB. I ran Primal with Wanted in the past and they synergized very well for me. I want to emphasize the in-the-moment aspects, the IDGAF attitude, because when running Primal I am just more engaging to be around.
Main character energy would go very well with it
To be fair, primal is supposed to be emperor levels of difficulty. So you’re ideally coming with that foundation already built. If you need a stabilizer, run stabilizer.
Kinda sorta. Primal’s the one identity title I’d be iffy about using it it. Primal is main character energy. The module helps but isnt essential here
I went with Irresistible Relaxation for my NE Primal. I felt like that would help me out most.
Natural Winner might be a good one to add to NE Primal. That would add some of that success programming to round it out. Successful on your own primal terms sounds like a nice pairing.
I feel khan Stage 3 and 4 have this enormously
less strongly on the fun part, but definitely the bold risk and positivity
Yeah, definitely interested in doing another Khan run at some point. In the past it didn’t mix as well with sales for me, but it seems you’ve had good results with making it more of a wealth custom right?
Honestly, absolutely loving reforged right now for work, and just about everything else in my life but I also feel it would pair with khan well.
Primal is not Khan but the dominance is there.
And it’s easier to integrate.
Primal helps me feel confident, to meet friends, to interact with women.
And to learn to live fearlessly.
I am enjoying life and do what I want. It helps me to be that guy who is confident nonchalant and social.
Khan was super heavy (in a good way too) primal is fun.
Always worked for me
It’s like I’m a king 
of my small domain.
It’s a mix of daredevil and Khan in a bottle 
As you mentioned primal, was just thinking the other day what Qos has to say about primal+ewtp+phoneix
Retardmaxxing stack:
Primal + EE + Peace
I feel more retarded already, I think that might actually do it.
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