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#640

I just got done running Khan after about 6 months. Before that I was on Primal and now I just switched back to Primal.

  1. I am glad I did Khan. It transformed me as an individual. I have gained unprecedented self respect and confidence.

Khan is quite intense. Nothing was ever good enough, I kept pushing on every aspect of my life. I asserted my will like never before to the point I was overtaking situations.

I also had a lot more anger on Khan. It was a more controlled rage. Best way to describe it is using the dark side to your advantage without being consumed by it.

I am turning back to Primal because ultimately that is the type of man I want to be. Khan did its job that it was designed to do. Khan built the mental fortress now it’s time to decorate it with Primal.

Read both copies and think on them. They tell you all you need. Both are quite different, yet are in the same realm.

In terms of sex, it felt the same on both. But I was also running PN and PR after that. By same I mean fucking amazing. We are having incredibly satisfying sex more after a kid than we did before which usually isn’t how that works. (Credit to PN)

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#641

Yeah I was thinking WB or Primal Seduction or Primal. Why did you choose Primal Romance? What made you think it would stack well or lighten up Khan?

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#642

I had too much of a fkboy presence, which girls were attracted to but were hesitant to build an emotional connection with.

Primal romance is changing that in the direction I like, giving me a more balanced presence, making me much more well rounded

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#643

This is combo im also interested as im more romantic, khan primal romance and would add kb as well.

How is this combo going for u so far? I would reckon it has Brad Pitt effect on women? Their perfect movie ideal badboy with romance

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#644

A high status sexual alpha who is also very romantic, any idea of which fictional archetype this could be?

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#645

Me too, it’s definitely a stack that someone that’s more romantic would enjoy. It makes you you ‘the ideal lover’ as Robert Greene puts it and women are a lot more open to you than even from wb (imo).

With WB, women are almost shocked by how hot you are, others are competitive.

With Primal romance, it’s different. They just love you, with lingering looks and romantic longing gazes (rather than sexual gazes).

The healing is smooth and fast too.

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#646

Maybe actors from the 50s or so.

The classic heart throbs of American cinema, like Rudolph Valentine or maybe other slightly more masculine ones if you use status subs with it like Khan

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#647

What about with khan if u could compare to those 2examples u gave with wb and pr

#648

On khan girls turn red and look down and/or they go out their way to ignore you. They become nervous yet horny. (This is what happened for me, might be different for someone else).

Also men become competitive and on guard.

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#649

How many cycles of khan?

#650

Three cycles stage one, so I guess I don’t have the complete picture yet as I haven’t moved to others stages yet

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#651

What do you prefer? Have you tried Primal Seduction?

#652

I’m not too sure between primal romance and Wb yet, though I’m leaning towards primal romance due to the relationship healing it’s bringing me that I needed (but didn’t know I needed it).

Wanted black is good but I seem to alienate people on it by playing the coquette which isn’t always the best thing to do.

Subs like WB and khan are edgy imo, meaning they have sharp edges, and so they’re best played only when U can afford to have a presence that is polarising.

Because I want to run all stages of khan right now, stacking two polarising subs without a ‘smoothening’ sub like primal romance might alienate too many people either due to my own recon, lack of calibration or just too much raw sexual energy (like what a stack of khan and wb would do).

Therefore khan with primal romance seems to be the perfect balance energetically as opposed to khan and wb (right now atleast)

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#653

@JCDenton you ran both khan and primal right?
Can you elaborately compare the two in your experience and results?

#654

Comparison of the two from my own experiences:

KHAN (long time usage, ca. ~1.5 years):

  • This is an “advanced to expert” levels title
  • Less social than Primal, because focused on dominating and making people submit
  • Always very serious about everything (this became a problem for me as this seriousness was surpressing a major part of my true personality)
  • Dominance at all costs (which can become a huge ego problem)
  • Invincibility feeling definitely there and feels amazing
  • Manifests women “who want you”
  • Massive inner status increase
  • Strong sexual presence (very similar to Primal Seduction ZP V2)
  • Wealth results only from Stage 1 where it removes blockages of your status levels and where it fixes your beliefs about success in general
  • This title should not be used by people who are ungrounded and have not yet built a base of treating other people with compassion. If you lack general social skills and human decency, this title will turn you into a “jerk” or “asshole” who might act ruthlessly and probably repent it later.
  • Not a good title for business. While the massive status increase will help, the “dominance at all costs” aspect will be counter productive in most cases for collaborating with people, especially those who are higher up the food chain than you yourself. You will not win them over by dominance, but by charisma.
  • Overall, this is a title to use when you are serious about personal growth and pushing through obstacles through force and willpower. This title will not do much for you if you are sitting at home as its primary goal is to build a harem empire and just be the “sexual boss”
  • Stage 1, just like with EoG, should be used by everyone to remove success blocks. Stage 4 I would recommend only for those who are not focussing on career and wealth but already have it and now want to build a sexual empire and harem and enjoy it. However that enjoyment might be shortlived, as KHAN will always push you to take everything serious and go after more and more until you conquer the whole world (the mentioned “dominance at all costs” effect).

Primal (used only for 2 months):

  • This is a “beginner” title
  • Better at reducing approach anxiety than KHAN
  • More fun and outgoing
  • Less dominant than KHAN
  • Feels sexually more at ease and sexual energy directed at fun and self-expression (versus KHAN who uses sexual energy for dominance)
  • No direct women manifestation, the women whom you encounter are just attracted to your primal presence
  • Pushes you to approach women better than KHAN does
  • Less “primal sexual” aura than original Primal Seduction ZP V2 and less than KHAN
  • This title is great for personal sexual liberation and expressing your true sexual self uninhibited
  • Overall, this is a title to use when you want to have fun in expressing your true sexual self. A nice addition to any general seduction and party stack like SSX, PS, PN, Wanted, WB, Daredevil and similar
  • I am not sure why Sub Club team mentioned that the new Primal script is so much longer than the original one, it seems rather more focussed than the many topics that KHAN Stage 4 covers.

Ideally, someone who wants to make the whole journey of sexual expression with just these two titles, would go like this:

KHAN Stage 1 → Primal → KHAN Stage 2 → KHAN Stage 3 → KHAN Stage 4 → KHAN Stage 4 + Primal

I have never combined KHAN Stage 4 and Primal at the same time, so not sure what this combo will create. Probably a less serious and “more social KHAN”?

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#655

Brilliant comparison, thanks for detailed comment.
How much has khan overall improved your wealth situation?
When you mention it manifests women who want you, are they close to your ideal type or just random women who want you, because i have some dating specifics.
Guess i could mix it in with heartsong or PR.

What do you think of khan and kb combination, i might try it together with drred as well tho 3 multistagers might be a lot

#656

It removed blockages preventing the levels of wealth that were mine naturally anyways.

The status increase additionally helps with negotiating higher salaries and simply demanding more money from people for your time and your services.

At the same time your monthly expenses may go up too, since as a KHAN you cannot live like a bum but it must be a nice place that you can fill up with women.

Just random women of all types and different levels of attractiveness who are attracted to you. You decide whether you find them attractive too or not.

If you want to manifest “women who are into you AND who are your specific type”, I think WB is the best title for that. Only to be topped by Heartsong’s soulmate manifestations.

Sure. Both, KHAN and Primal can be perfectly mixed with Heartsong and Primal Romance.

I have been doing this for a long time.
KB 1 should be used by everyone (just like KHAN 1 and EoG 1).

KB 4 is part of my stack as a boosting title and will probably never leave it. I do not get any recon from this due to a lot of energetic prework, so it is a simply a nice extra energy booster for me.

Yes, that is too much.
Do not use more than 1 Multistager in your stack at all times.
KB 1 + KHAN 1 at the same time will generate a massive sexual healing though on all levels.

Adding DR Red would be an overkill with extreme recon levels, even on the new tech. I recommend using these titles one after another.
DR Red for general overall healing, KHAN 1 for healing related to KHAN’s harem success goals, and KB for specifically healing of sexual stuff.

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#657

You guys. For anyone who feels inhibited, stiff or even wishing to fully explore their emotional side and passion. I suggest stacking Primal with Rennesance Man.

This has to be the biggest synregy i’ve ever whitnessed. It will be intense as hell but within that intencity you will grow and develop by the day. Primal by itself did it’s best bringing out the passion, life force and awarness to break free

Rennesance man will push whatever needs to be free out and in the open. It’s duality of the inner child and the adult fully merging and embracing one other. For hardcore overthinkers, introverts such as yours truly. Give those two a go

Edit: And for those who are spiritual and are aware of the power of emotions and how it superseeds even actions and thoughts. This will be the next best thing before upgraded ME gets out

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#658

Just now I’ve starting to think and trying to understand the new tech called NSE/NWE/NRE

I used this title few weeks ago,
And had some lucky things happening…

I’m trying to figure out if it is connected to the new primal or not

Does it contains wealth experience? Or it is just the subliminal experience?

What I’m getting to here is, what Exactly manifestations and experiences can one expect on The New Primal?

Is friends or people inviting you to drinks included?
I had many cool experiences but I’m also using LOA…

Women giving me and buying me drinks guys as well … And free upgrades in different departments

So that’s why I’m asking

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#659

@Benny Primal is about breaking free and being your raw, untamed self which is grounded in confidence, social skills and status. What you are getting is the treatment you were always meant to have.

As for your second question about what to expect. It’s best not to dwell too much on it, over think it and hyper fixate on it. That is not what got you those sweet experiences, being you did. If Primal speaks to you then continue to run it and be the same person who lead to those results

Lastly, if you are new here. You will soon realize that those with the best results are the least actively laser focused on new drops, Upgrades, Explanations and Overthinking things. Wish ya the best

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