Main Disc. Thread - The New Heartsong (Now Available! Free Upgrade!)

I think you said it perfectly. New Heartsong is simply more powerful.

I’m sure the old one worked in the exact same way in some regards (obviously not 100% the same, since this now has NSE and more depth in its scripting).

But to answer your question about manifestations -

Think of it this way. You have an ideal partner. They are super smart and super hot and really independent. You also have trauma around love. You are needy and get triggered easily. Let’s say Heartsong immediately goes to work manifesting your ideal partner and you meet them tomorrow. Will they be attracted to you and fall in love with you and want to be with you forever? Probably not, since they are smart and hot and independent, and thusly have high standards which you do not meet with your needy traumatized current state of being.

And so, to actually reach its objectives and goals, the more efficient way for Heartsong to operate is to heal you up to the point where you feel worthy of your ideal partner. Because that’s the real trick. You can be a needy bitchy person and attract your ideal partner IF YOU FEEL WORTHY OF THEM because in that scenario you’ll be relaxed because you feel deserving of their love. The healing is more for us to overcome our own bullshit and feel like we deserve the love of our ideal partner.

Of course it also helps in the long run to KEEP that partner by being healed and a good husband/wife, but when discussing the order in which the sub heals vs manifests, I thought it important to point out what I feel are the reasons behind how the sub works in the short term.

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Explains why I’m so fixated with gym lately. Doing it for an hour. Also why whenever I neglect myself I can’t fully be present with my girl. But whenever I take care of myself, she gets the best of me. As a result, today when I asked her about last night she said ‘it’s been a while since we’ve been like that’ with a huge smile on her face… long story short, she made a mess on my floor.

I was going to ask if HoM has any script towards fitness only to find out it’s HS… telling me to love myself more.

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Greetings @SaintSovereign @Fire and everyoneI 'm currently exploring a unique approach to deepen connections with two individuals in relationships starting phase one is a.marriage proposal. My strategy involves alternating between listening to Wanted and SSE-X on one day, taking a break the next day, and then incorporating hert songs on the third day. The aim is to enhance attraction with Wanted and SSE-X, while using hart songs to strengthen our bond.

I’m contemplating playing Wanted, SSE-X, and a hert song simultaneously to see if this intensifies the effects. Would this combination be more effective for achieving my goals?

@AnswerGroup Is New Love Experience (NLoE) in Heartsong?

I think, now they just call it NSE

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NSE is New Subliminal Experience. There are different types of NSE. New Romance Experience NRE, New Wealth Experience NWE, etc. NLoE was introduced in LBFH. New Emperor has 3 different types of NSE I think. I asked if HS has NRE and Saint said this…

So yes, I get that there’s overarching NSE scripting, but I’m asking @AnswerGroup if Heartsong has NLoE geared toward the goals of Heartsong.

I am planning on taking HS for a spin purely for the healing and self love stuff as well. Though reading through the thread from the beginning has me uncertain again. I still think purely for the healing it’s the best answer to what I need. I’ve had plenty of self development but one pesky area keeps coming up, not having gotten the woman who I saw as my happily ever after.

How are things going for you strictly relating to your goals of healing with HS?

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For the last 2 cycles Ive been listening to Khan Black st1 and Phoenix, with maybe 4 or 5 loops of HS.
All this stack I selected for the same goals, deep healing of all heart, sexual and relationship issues.

The results have been outstanding, extraordinary and life changing. Take note that Ive been doing hard work, taking actions towards my goals on a daily basis.

Yesterday I though for a moment that Im alone (I broke up a long relationship a month and a half ago) that usually would trigger a deep sense of sadness, but yesterday as soon as I said it, I felt what can only be described as an explosion of pleasure expanding from the center of my chest, as I thought to myself: “Yeah!!! Im free”.

Free as in I can do what I want, but deeply it was an expression of being free of everything that was holding me back and causing me pain.

Ive had many more great results, you can check my journal if you want.

Next cycle Im doing KB st2, but Im not sure I need anymore healing from Phoenix, nor HS. Im gonna evaluate during washout.

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For anyone not getting results with your traditional seduction subs, I highly recommend HS as a different approach. I was in the boat of not getting the results I was looking for with seduction subs, and HS was ultimately what solved that.

Still haven’t found the one yet, but the experience I’m getting is allowing me to truly understand the person that I’m truly looking for.

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What is your stack atm?

That’s what the new romance experience was doing for me. It seemed like it started off by removing my attraction for a lot of women. From there it was a matter of clearing up and finding out what I really wanted and what was best for me. But that was SSX. I think HS would go much deeper with that.

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Care to expand a little bit on your experience?

HS+KBBC4+LBFH+NRE custom
Emperor
EOG1

Most interesting part of NSE so far has been the way those subs interface with one another - it feels very clear that Emperor and the HS custom are working with each other to find the right person.

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Meeting with different types of women in looks & personality but engaging with them sexually is helping me explore and understand what traits and aspects I’m looking for in the woman I want to be in a relationship with, and what is a deal breaker for me in all the aspects (physically, personality-wise, character, etc).

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So compared to the seduction subs where you might be laser focused on your preferred type, HS has helped to open up to different types of people that you might otherwise have not gone after? Am I understanding you correctly?

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No, my statement was referring solely to my time on Heartsong and the experience I’ve had running it.

If you’re asking about my experience with HS vs the other seduction stuff I ran and why I’ve had a better experience on HS, I feel like it comes down to myself and what makes me willing to enter and approach a woman for something romantic.

I despise the artificiality of the courtship process so approaching a woman who interests me because she’s beautiful is a reach for me, and I just lose interest quickly with the shit-test process and the games that are played. I don’t like wasting my time on that at all so even if I want to go through that, my utter lack of interest only hurts my engagement & enthusiasm about the situation as a whole and unfortunately I’m the type of person who wears my heart on my sleeve. This just creates a negative loop which leads to nowhere every time.

Heartsong manifests women who fit your personality and interests on a deeper level, so all of a sudden the women I talk to are much more interesting for me to engage with. The shit-test process and games that are played aren’t approached with a goal of overcoming them because the entire interaction itself is enjoyable to me regardless of where the direction is going. I come across as much more present because I genuinely am more present, and I have zero expectations on where the direction is going because I’m literally just there for the vibes. Things work out much more automatically as a result.

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1 cycle report from a newbie user outside of subliminal club forum on new heartsong :

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I feel you, realised the same last week.
Ill maybe try using HS as my forth title a couple mins a week for getting a bit of the healing.
Depends on how heavy my 3 customs will be for me

Well, bought Heartsong.

Will add it to my stack of Wanted Black and Primal Nights :slight_smile: gonna explore uncharted territories, 3 full loops every other day, one of each title, I’m sure my mind will handle it.

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wow that’s quite intense!

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