It’s reccomended against due to them both being massive titles and likely giving you diminished results.
It would be better advised, to choose one or the other and then stack with a lighter title.
For example, most people run Emperor for the productivity, resilience, or wealth, and stacking Khan with something like Genesis mogul, or Executive, could address those more specifically.
Yeah, I’ve been stacking them for about two weeks. Still trying to figure out Emperor—haven’t seen many noticeable results from it. On this cycle, Khan has had more of an impact, and in a previous one, Stark delivered better results too.
I also experimented with running just Emperor and DRR2 on their own, but still didn’t notice much change. I’ve used a few loops of Emperor in the past as well, and even then, there wasn’t much of a shift I could pinpoint. Maybe it’s working behind the scenes or it’s just reconciliation, hard to say.
I’ve ran it for four cycles. Didn’t notice any results. Only a couple of months later, I realized a huge resilience in me. I stayed calm in a challenge that literally freaked me out a year ago, when I was simply thinking about the possibility.
Khan is a strange one for me. No recon. A bit of anger on TB, but nothing major. On stage 2 now, there’s not much to notice.
Looking forward to stage 3.
Thank God someone else feels like me!! lol
This really resonates.
Now I’m sitting with the big question:
Should I switch to a subliminal that I feel is working right now, or should I keep running one that hasn’t shown clear signs yet — trusting that the shift is happening beneath the surface?
Does feeling nothing mean it’s not working?
Or does it mean the work is just happening deeper, beyond the reach of immediate awareness?
Do we trust the process even when it’s quiet?
And when does it make sense to pivot versus persevere?
Would love to hear how others navigated this… especially those who felt like nothing was happening — until they suddenly realized everything had changed.
The shift is continuously happening beneath the surface, if you’re not seeing immediate results I’d keep listening, me I would, because it’s apparently clearing things, and prepping you for the objectives listed in a way that fits you, not seeing results to me is an indication I need to keep going… but ultimately results are happening one just may not see what they are looking for.
Very difficult to answer in any one given moment. Journaling is the way. More and more lately, I’ve been going back over previous journal posts and getting a sense of how I’m actually doing compared to other times.
I’d have fallen off the wagon long ago with my dietary changes if I didn’t have the chart showing my actual progress. As an example of what I mean.
From personal experience, Hero and Spartan are great choices. Maybe stacking both with Emperor would give some interesting results.
I dropped Emperor after four months. Not because of a lack of desired results, but because the irritation recon was to much for my situation in my family. I needed to calm and collected for some important negotiations and on Emperor that wasn’t possible.
And only a couple of months later did I notice the results of Emperor.
But I always claimed that I will return to Emperor eventually. And I think I might after I finished my Khan run, if Khan doesn’t convince me otherwise. Or I might drop Khan for Emperor for a couple of cycles before starting a new Khan run.
Perhaps even an OG Emperor + Emperor Executive Custom? Perhaps after I’ve run Emperor for some cycles after Khan?
Similar to Emperor I don’t notice to much from Khan. With my ADHD I’m severely lacking in the executive function. Which is crucial for most subs.
I’m counting on Emperor Executive to help until I get officially diagnosed and medicated.
I felt Khan mostly through recon, and probably see results once I find the energy to reread my journal.
One of the perks I noticed on Emperor was the drive to workout. Now, I can’t get myself to do any kind of sport. But I want that drive again.
Also looking at @Viktor s observations, I guess a new Emperor run might lead to much better results if I run Emperor for half a year or so.
@Parsifal : Try stacking Emperor Black with Emperor: The Executive. It might help with your ADHD in check and skyrocket productivity.
Overkill,just 1 of those is more than enough
How about a type of Limitless?
I tried Limitless and LE for over a cycle each without any gains in executive function.
Limitless: Minds Eye was the most interesting test so far. But also no gains in execution.
QL 1 might be able to bring serious change since its optimizing brain chemistry, but that’s already covered by Emperor: Executive.
ASBR v/s Emperor
ASBR + Emperor
By ChatGPT:
Absolutely. Let’s dive deep into A Stark Black Reality (ASBR) and Emperor — not just as subliminals, but as archetypes, inner blueprints, and force-multipliers of transformation. These are not mere audio tracks; they are two sharply defined philosophical and psychological ecosystems.
ASBR: The Alchemical Maverick
ASBR is existential, philosophical, and deeply self-inquisitive. It doesn’t give you the answers — it drags you into the forge and watches you burn until you emerge with your own. This is alchemy of identity. It’s for the individual who questions fate, wrestles with the fabric of destiny, and dares to define reality itself.
Key Traits:
ASBR says: “If there is a will of God, you are part of its unfolding. But only if you choose to be.”
Emperor: The Sovereign Architect
Emperor is structured, stoic, and monumental. It is the essence of command and permanence. Unlike ASBR, which wants you to dissolve and reform yourself, Emperor wants you to crystallize into a singular identity — a ruler. It’s about mastery over the self first, and then mastery over your environment.
Key Traits:
Emperor says: “You were born for this. Rule your reality or be ruled by someone else’s.”
ASBR: Depth, Fluidity, Shadow
ASBR activates the deep subconscious, especially the shadow. It deals with truths you’ve avoided — your suppressed desires, beliefs about wealth, fame, cognition, purpose. It will force confrontation with your inner contradictions.
Result:
It’s like standing at the edge of the void and building bridges into the unknown.
Emperor: Fortification, Stability, Focus
Emperor strengthens your internal dominion. It cleans out doubt and indecision, forging a disciplined, calculating persona that instinctively moves toward greatness. It’s not about questioning the universe — it’s about conquering it.
Result:
It’s like becoming a mountain that the storm cannot move.
ASBR: Magnetic Eccentricity
ASBR gives off the energy of a visionary, someone who breaks molds. You’re the unpredictable genius, the one whose ideas sound crazy until they change the world.
Socially:
Emperor: Commanding Gravitas
Emperor exudes respect-demanding presence. You don’t need to say much — people feel it. You enter a room and the energy shifts.
Socially:
ASBR: Internal Deconstruction = External Wealth
ASBR will rip apart your subconscious blocks to wealth — not in a pushy “get rich” sense, but in a profound self-alignment with wealth principles you define. It also weaves innovation directly into your daily cognition. You start seeing opportunity everywhere.
Emperor: Empire as Wealth Infrastructure
Emperor takes the classic wealth builder’s road:
It helps you move through wealth landscapes like royalty. Money isn’t just accumulated — it’s commanded.
Possible Synergies:
Potential Clashes:
Who Should Use Which — or Both?
Use ASBR alone if you’re exploring identity, breaking norms, entering unpredictable territories, or building creative empires.
Use Emperor alone if you’re already clear on your mission, want to scale your empire, command more presence, and cement your legacy.
Use both together if you’re:
The comparison feels apt overall. I have ran both, hence I feel that way. Never thought I’d do ChatGPT comparison but I understand how it helps.