This is still the most important open question for me as well.
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Has anyone tested out stage 3 yet?
Damn this sub, a loop of Stage 1!!
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Were you expecting a sub that would manifest money out of thin air?
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I think alot of the questions are because there isnât an objectives section,then we would clearly see it say âmanifests moneyâ
I know it would take long but it surely wouldnt take as long as writing the description
Is this the new generation kind of thing⌠OMG 1 loop of (x)⌠eeire silenceâŚ! The old generations goes⌠what??.. what happenedâŚ?
New generation⌠cliffhanger⌠
Or maybe itâs just the modern way of treating all text boxes on the internet as short text messages where itâs illegal to add more than 10 words in a row⌠
So as a the genration that came before that I can say I have 2 loops (3 min) under my belt so far of St1, and today and yesterday it has been kicking my ass. I have had a lot of anger and feelings of apathy throughout these days, with moments of intense jaw tensionâŚ
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You and @JCDenton both: name a single feature in EoG that if successfully learned WOULDNâT lead to the âmanifestationâ of more money.
You guys are looking for âmoney falling from the sky,â and EoG is for the person of action who wants to seize control of their wealth journey and guide it through effort, with the title ASSISTING them.
Obviously, thereâs wealth manifestation in EoG, pretty much every module, but if youâre the type of person that really needs this spelled out, EoG is not for you. There is no similarities and differences because there are none. It is a four stage title that covers a lot of ground, there is nothing else in our product lines, nor anyone elseâs that goes as granular as EoG.
To claim that you cannot tell the difference between RICH and EoG is madness and is furthering my suspicions that an agenda is being formed and executed, particularly with this notion of âomg the titles are all the same and should be merged,â a falsity that we have explained multiple times, and I recognize that the single perpetrator of this budding agenda ignored my last responses to them which went into great detail about this and simply migrated to this thread and started attacking EoG.
If you are legitimately having that much trouble understanding the differences between titles, our products may not be for you.
There will be no merging of titles. It is off the table. And weâre not going to deal with individuals trying to rile up others where there is no problem before. We are in the midst of a lot of work and we do not have time for this.
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Your right,also i promise im not trying to push an agenda man 
Also i think what i said was misintepreted,theres alot of people asking questions about eog some asking if it manifests money and i was saying if there was an objectives list like the other subliminals and in the objectives âmanifesting moneyâ was listed like r.i.c.h and mogul it would clear some confusion
I was just talking about the objectives list,not whether or not it manifests money
- the last thing i want is to delay or prevent you from updating titles
It is interesting how some individuals have trouble seeing these simple differences between titles as well as not seeing the deeper possibilities and features of each title unless it is distinctly pointed out in the copy, and yet thereâs always a push from the community for more advanced titles.
This is one of the reasons why we have to be so careful in what we release. How could we ever release a highly advanced title when there are people who are unable to intuitively grasp the basic mechanisms of a title, when such is basically mandatory in order to work with it?
And we already know that the inability to work with a title will not stop people from trying to use it, as weâve seen before with people completely ignoring WANTED and Stark and going straight for WANTED Black and Stark Black.
I will also point out this - for those who want a âmergingâ of the titles - if we did so, you would not be able to get any profound results out of it. You are literally shooting yourself in the foot with this idea. If we took this idea to its logical conclusion (which will never happen in reality), then you would end up with 6 massive kitchensink titles, and each one barely working with minimal results.
What are you here for?
To satisfy your FOMO?
Or for results?
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Letâs be serious for a secondâdo you really not see how all these stages lead to building lasting wealth? Unless youâre expecting a sub to help you win the lottery or make money magically appear, wealth always comes from something you provide in exchange for itâwhether through a business, a job, investments, or trading.
EOG isnât about sporadic, accidental manifestations of money. Itâs about helping you build a real-world framework through which massive wealth can materialize. That framework takes the form of a business, a career, or something similar. Thatâs how sustainable wealth is created.
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I think people have had trouble distinguishing if there is things like the manifestations of opportunities, or random wealth occurrences, because it is something we all have experienced in the past on specific titles, but it was also directly in the copy, and now it appears it is not, or at least not emphasized.
I donât think this was ever in question by anybody, the question seemed to be about in what way, rather then if it does. Even at that, I think there was no question that building the right skill sets and mindset will lead to wealth, it was more of a question of if there is also âmanifestationâ scripting, which is mentioned in nearly every copy from romance titles like WB, to wealth titles like Emperor, HOM, RICH, etc, so in my opinion itâs a totally valid question, and in this specific situation Iâm not sure if itâs due to the customers inability to discern the information (Although that can quite frequently be the case).
Not saying it is/was, but in the past this was definitely something that occurred, and while I donât think itâs the most important thing, there was an element of âI canât believe this just happened to meâ that is certainly a nice added benefit and builds positive momentum/feedback loops.
As someone who has been with sub club for over 5 years, I can certainly attest to that âmoney falling out of the skyâ experience that Iâve had, and while I put in quite a bit of work, I would notice things like me closing more deals than I ordinarily would have, which I attributed to the subs.
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Neville Goddardâs brother famously used the manifestation techniques Neville taught to build a company that made him incredibly wealthy. This was back in 1929, and nearly a century later, that companyâGoddard Enterprises Ltd.âis still thriving as one of the wealthiest businesses in Barbados.
Here is a picture of it.
The same wealth principles that have sustained that company for almost 100 yearsâensuring both longevity and profitabilityâare embedded within the four stages of EOG. Even Neville Goddard, the master of manifesting money seemingly out of thin air, understood that lasting wealth follows precise principles and patterns. Thatâs exactly what EOG is designed for, and itâs precisely what I was looking for.
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So, if I said that ârandom wealth occurrencesâ WASNâT in the script, which it isnât â it has the same âmanifestationâ scripting as all the other wealth titles â you wouldnât run EoG? You would trade the deep richness that EoG has to offer, over a couple of bucks here or there that seems like it came out of nowhere?
Are you sure that EoG is for you? This sounds more âbeginner wealthâ mindset, people who need little hits of cash here or there to keep themselves motivated. EoG has a massive spread, and will legitimately help people evolve into absolute wealth generating warriors, and the focus here in this conversation â which yes, quite annoys me isâŚ
⌠does EoG bring me a couple of bucks here or there?
@Fire actually commented that he saw a ticket claiming that Stages 3 and 4 are âalike.â Go back to Genesis: Mogul. We stated that EoG had a hybrid method of creation, where it could be run sequentially as well as choosing whatever title you wanted. We stated that the sequential part of it means thereâs a bit of overlap from stage to stage, deepening concepts for those who wanted to approach it in a sequential, progressive method.
And these type of issues is why weâve just decided that Q-Pro, as much as we donât like the idea, will have to be a more selective environment. In our eyes, EoG isnât even that complicated to understand, but our optimism may have gotten the best of us.
And to many of the people who are indeed trying to force an agenda, even if you are well-intentioned. Please remember one thing: You have never actually created a subliminal audio title for mass use. It is easy to say something, and then put it into expression. We have been doing this for quite some time now, and I can assure you that weâve thought more deeply about these subjects than most people.
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Oh⌠you dun done it now. They on yo ass, boa. Betta go on and getcha act togayther now. Go on.
-smacks @JCDenton on the butt-
Rofl, but on a serious note. In the title of EOG, it literally says âThe Ecstasy of Gold Multistage: Manifest Wealthâ
People are forgetting that if youâre developing skills, cultivating your value (not just self-worth but actual competence and knowledge), growing your abundant mindset, etc⌠then those changes all get feedback in the form of manifestations. Your mindset creates the manifestations, lol.
For example, just randomly picking from stage 1:
Thereâs no mention of âmanifestationâ in this segment, but if youâre healing scarcity, unworthiness, and negative beliefs about money⌠then your Zero Point or internal framework will start outputting more abundance instead of scarcity which you then get feedback for in the form of positive manifestations.
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Exactly. This manâs ready for EoG.
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Was literally just a genuine and reasonable question, and if I meant I wouldnât run it without it being in the script I would have just said that. It is something to consider when your path to wealth is through salesman ship, and deals getting closed, or not getting closed, makes 5-6 figures per year differences in my income.
As long as it has the same âmanifestationâ scripting as everything else, Iâm pretty set lol. Itâs just the word manifestation is used 20+ times in all of the other wealth titles (copies), so one is left to wonder when it is not there, if the title operates differently.
Personally, Iâve noticed my commissions being several thousands of dollars different per month, depending on how dialed in I am, what stack combination Iâm running, and obviously there is outside factors, but to me those extra finances properly utilized, is what is going to allow me to get from Square A, to Square B, so it can be an important thing to consider.
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People are also applying an unnecessarily narrow definition of the word âskillâ.
Go back to the basics:
Subliminals always work with the subconscious mind.
Subliminals always work via (by way of) the subconscious mind.
This remains true whether or not a program is action-oriented, or skill-oriented.
Given a powerful, turbo-charged, efficient, silent super car with amazing handling,
people are arguing about the shape of the steering wheel and the placement of the door handles and ignoring the engine.
You want magical manifestation? That part has always been supplied by your subconscious mind.
And guess what always works with your subconscious mind?
Subliminals.
Thatâs always going to be a part of it.
Done.
Simple.
No need to worry about that part.
Please move on.
Now, if you understand that, we can focus on what is constantly being innovated, innovated, and innovated again here at Subliminal Club:
How can we best, most efficiently, most smoothly harness and apply this engine of subconscious change?
Thatâs the point.
Donât look at the steering wheel and assume you understand the engine.
The skills focus, the free will focus, the external situation focus, etc., these are the steering wheels that allow you to make the most effective and the most intentional use of the engine of change.
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This (the new kind of copy) is IMO the crucial point here.
âManifestationâ always was shorthand for a bunch of different aspects (leaving lots of room for projection), now the EoG copy spells a lot of these points out (getting insync with markets & customers, perception shifts, focus on specific areas, opportunities etc.), it just reads/feels a little different even though it describes the same, makes taking action way easier and probably brings quicker and better results.
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BILLionaire V3 upgrade is finished! At work now. Iâll download tonight and stack it with either Waned or my Wanted Black custom.
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The more itâs unpacked by fellow forum members and the conversation here
(albeit with some fire) the more I have clarity on this sub
I often have strong intuitive reactions to subs that create a desire for clarification and concern.
I think part of that has to do with how much hope and power I can attribute to a sub being able to change elements of my life.
That was this dumb dumb lol
I was basing it on the overall descriptions of the stages, not the guidelines underneath. They both seemed oriented around breaking wealth ceilings and advanced wealth concepts, so I was more looking for the use case of each when I meant the difference.
I also had a strong emotional reaction to this sub, which I mentioned in the inquiry to look for a better understanding, so apologies, @Fire, or to anyone with which my lack of knowledge, understanding, concern, or emotional reactivity may have had an untoward impact.
I do understand there may be frustration or bafflement in dealing with everyoneâs perceptions or lack of recognition of what has been done. Still, I think, given the high-level concepts here, emotions associated with the topic, the tendency of many here to be analytical overthinkers, and the shift in copy, I think a bit of dissonance is to be expected.
I believe the scope of the new EOG intimated me.
Itâs so outside the world Iâm living in.
I think Iâm also confronted by the idea of building something for the long run at the expense of the short term, which I now see as my blind spot or limiting belief even in considering running EOG.
I may still be in the world of getting by and not losing what I have, despite major advancements in my economic position.
I believe elements of âthe universe conspiringâ on your behalf, synchronicities, and perfect opportunities coming along are what people consider manifestation and as Saint has pointed out lately manifesation is a function of something manifested through action and actively making that thing happen as well. We even have modules on benevolent spirit guides that are drawing this in. I was more curious to what degree those elements were incorporated into this EOG
Also, being in sales myself,
I have tracked my sub-uses relating to my lead quality and sales for the last year.
And while not a controlled experiment, I notice a very consistent and direct impact on what randomly shows up in my calendar as a function of certain subs. This is one way in which I am defining manifestation
Itâs very clear when itâs my performance or the lead quality that dictates my performance. So if my performance is on and I consistently get higher revenue and higher quality clients, I consider that manifestation from a sub. EOG, HOM, and Minds Eye boost these occurrences, RICH does as well but not as much, but it does help with unrelenting energy in making money.
Through this conversation, I am coming closer to a deeper understanding of the real value of the new EOG.
However, given if intuitively understanding it correctly through the copy is a requisite to running it then I am not ready and Iâll start with ROW.
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