Main Disc. Thread - The NEW Dragon Reborn RED

[AlfaX]

Quick question is one is about to start the old version of DR stage 4 could you switch to ST4 RED or do you need to start all over?

[Lion]

Brilliant post, @Jouissance. Thank you.

[Lion]

@AlfaX

Quick question is one is about to start the old version of DR stage 4 could you switch to ST4 RED or do you need to start all over?

You could do DRR4 but if you want the best results, you need to start from DRR1. This is cause all the stages have been rewritten from scratch.

What you can do is try DRR4 and if it feels off or too much, start from DRR1.

[James]

@Jouissance I’m curious where ego fits into all of that?

[SwagKing]

Love I Ching

[oloy]

Relevant post to the topic:

@SaintSovereign

Castle 2 has a gate that can be easily lifted by turning a handle. The gate is guarded by well-trained soldiers who strongly vets everyone that goes in or out of the castle. Once the “guard” says it’s okay, resources and information can be readily brought in and unloaded. This is the kind of defense that DR builds.

[Jouissance]

@James

@ouroboros I’m curious where ego fits into all of that?

I really try not to ever use the word “ego” and instead, always find the word that more accurately describes what I’m trying to explain.

The problem with “ego” is that it’s been adopted and/or filtered by so many different schools of thought that it’s impossible to really pin down a true meaning of the word without disregarding another completely valid, but oftentimes only casually connected, version of the word.

Take this phrase

“Watch your ego, bro.”

Well?

If you’re a westerner out clubbing, that means “you’re way too cocky and you need to learn humility before I teach it to you, bro.”

If you’re into Jungian psychology, that same phrase means “You should really take a look at your unconscious biases and how they’re affecting your assessment of this situation, bro.”

If you’re into Freudian psychology, that means “I don’t know what’s wrong with you, but you’re either A) a carnal monster that only lives for sex and drugs, or B) a total sheep who lives completely for others, bro.”

If you’re into oriental-collectivist schools of thought, that SAME PHRASE means “You’re really letting your selfish interests get in the way of the interests of the collective, the community, your family…”

If you’re Christian, it means “You’re too prideful and need to realize you are nothing without god.”

So… it’s tough to answer “where does Ego fit into all this?”

The only thing they all the Ego definitions have in common is “The Self”, especially the “Surface Level Self That We Can Identity With.”

rant about language

…especially the “Conscious/Aware Self…” (God dang it even “Conscious” and “Ego” have both been adopted by the new age spiritual movement, and popular culture, who have twisted them with their own interpretations of the words…

Ok let’s call it the “self we’re aware of” …

So essentially…

Shadow Work and Inner Child Work relate to the self in that they’re two different types of processes that you can do to understand your “self” (read: ego) better, and, they’re two different ways to imagine two differents parts of your “self” (read: ego) that you can develop a better relationship with, or otherwise leverage to develop better emotional control, and find clarity about who you are and why you do what you do.

Anyways…

This is completely unrelated but scrolling through the “Castle” thread got me reading on why ZP is so individualized and I think this is all beautiful.

@SaintSovereign

It’s a “self-based” approach, though I understand what you mean. It’s like we were saying: the beauty of Zero Point is its contradictory nature of being both so simplistic and yet complex. If we were to show you the scripts, you would wonder how they are capable of creating such profound results, but the secrets behind how it works is what makes it so complex.

@SaintSovereign

It’s why you’re going to see people constantly switching up their stacks and trying new things. You cannot fake authenticity and congruence with Zero Point. If you are running WANTED, but deep down inside, you really just want the perfect mate – a soulmate – you won’t respond like someone who wants to explore and push their sexuality to the extreme.

@SaintSovereign

The traditional affirmation model is exceptionally limiting in this regard because it forces a “one size fits all” approach to everyone. That approach, and those who push it, fail to realize that you’re dealing with overlapping and highly integrated dynamic systems. You are a unique dynamic system, a creative expression of the universe itself. There will be others like you, but there will never be another YOU. How could there be? They say every 10 minutes or so, all of the molecules in your body will be replaced – there will never again (and yes, I know in a continuum of infinite probability, everything is possible) be someone who had those same molecules replaced at the exact same time, molecules that comprised a living, conscious entity.

As dynamic, unique individuals, we create and emanate dynamic systems. Society is one of those systems. We constantly both create and perceive society (as a system), which then influences your mindset (think again of the image of the torus).

Taking all this into consideration, did it ever really make sense to think all people would respond to a script full of static affirmations in the exact same way, and those who failed to respond would be told that they are just fearful of the script?

This is why, with Zero Point, we were bold enough to literally start over from scratch. To sit down, look at all the research we’ve accumulated (and we have YEARS of reports to work from) and just cast aside all of our hard work and say, “maybe we all got it wrong.” We know Qv2 works, and it works well – but what if there were a different way?

Zero Point will demand that same line of critical thought from you. It will relentlessly ask you if what you say you want is REALLY what you want. There’s no way to lie about it, no matter how hard you try, because the subliminal is doing very little. It’s simply an audio file with scripting. YOU are doing the hard work, as your personal reality (and the dynamic reality that emanates from you) is pushed through you, and as the classic lines indicates, it’s not the spoon that bends, it’s you that bends.

[Jouissance]

More on the shadow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhzBo0dZNpY

[Avengers68]

Today, I feel sad … I don’t know why . First time I have something like that and lasting the whole day. So i did not listen to DRR today

[Trader]

How long was your loop before?

[Avengers68]

First one was 9 minutes. Yesterday 3 minutes

[Trader]

I did one full loop so far 3 days ago. It’s intense.

[Avengers68]

Yep ! I was not very prudent hahaha ! I thought I am used enough to the subliminal ahahah

[Malkuth]

@Jouissance

If you’re a westerner out clubbing, that means “you’re way too cocky and you need to learn humility before I teach it to you, bro.”

If you’re into Jungian psychology, that same phrase means “You should really take a look at your unconscious biases and how they’re affecting your assessment of this situation, bro.”

If you’re into Freudian psychology, that means “I don’t know what’s wrong with you, but you’re either A) a carnal monster that only lives for sex and drugs, or B) a total sheep who lives completely for others, bro.”

If you’re into oriental-collectivist schools of thought, that SAME PHRASE means “You’re really letting your selfish interests get in the way of the interests of the collective, the community, your family…”

If you’re Christian, it means “You’re too prideful and need to realize you are nothing without god.”

And we have to add another one:

If you’re a mystic, it means “Marvel in the miraculous illusion of independent, separate existence, and contemplate all of the amazing realities that this illusion facilitates and enables to arise. Watch this fire, and use it skillfully.”

[Uber_Elysium]

This is from the Gold page but I have also noticed the same result with Red

@Uber_Elysium

@Niles

Sales performance was the best day I had in a longggg time with very minimal effort.

I have been experiencing this as well, the past few days it felt like sales were just being handed to me.

I am listening to Red ST1 though not Gold. So I suspect that it’s more tied to healing. If this is the case than it proves that Dragon Reborn period is genuinely going to upgrade every aspect of our lives.

[Sebastian_Po]

@Malkuth

Marvel in the miraculous illusion of independent, separate existence, and contemplate all of the amazing realities that this illusion facilitates and enables to arise. Watch this fire, and use it skillfully

well，you just fried my brain….

[Newtothis]

@Nemesis

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Hi , when you say a 30 second loop do you mean you just play the sub for the first 30 seconds then that’s it?

[James]

Yes. Only 30s. Every other day

I’m about to run a 10s loop. I get recon from 39s so starting really slow. One day I might be up to a minute. Or not

[Newtothis]

interesting, what specifically tells you that you have recon may I ask? I just ran 1min not noticed anything… (first run on ultrasonic)

[James]

Really bad mood and irritable. Wanting stop or switch subs

For me that is