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#187

Qigong. Seek out a legitimate Qigong instructor. Because I don’t know enough to really recommend one, you’ll have to seek that yourself. However, @Fire is our resident Qigong thought-leader, as he’s certified to teach it and I did have him evaluate this course for questions just like this: https://www.taoistwellness.online/

He is reluctant to give it a complete cosign himself, as neither of us know the deeper teachings of this organization, but he did say that upon evaluating the publicly available materials, at the time he didn’t see any of the things that causes an immediate red flag. But, that was over a year ago when he looked at it, so use caution and discernment. There’s a lot of scammy and bad teachers out there.

That would be my recommendation, but ultimately it is up to you.

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#190

What spiritual abilities did you discover with this?

& was it ever revealed what hidden features the last stage has?

#191

If I have to describe stage one two words it would be definitely “spiritual accelerator”

Folks, please share some of your experiences with this I am super curious hehe

I notice a lot of spiritual information is surfacing from my unconscious to my conscious mind especially if I dwell around in my mind a little bit.

A bit of an inclination now to become more of strict disciplinarian which will be very good for me as I have never been very disciplined, but a certain sense of discipline can for sure turn your life around in a positive way. Every action leads to a consequence and if you keep up certain actions over time it will lead to results and that is what discipline is all about! A rigid schedule if held to is much like a formulae that must eventually lead to a certain outcome.

Discipline is only necessary until mastery is attained. If you have mastery you don’t need to discipline yourself as you will no longer be swayed by forces that divert you off your course and path.

You discipline because your emotions thoughts and energies are directed everywhere but to the destination you want to go. Even if you use your will power you will not be able to control very much about your own inner life as more superior forces have you in their grip. This is why you discipline yourself as a fundamental road to eventually attaining mastery.

No idea where this wisdom is coming from!

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#192

Don’t skip the first two steps. The most important ones.

1 Realize that Energy is real

2 Begin to recognize where it already is in your experience and your world

Now, add practices and teachings and exercises to continue developing.

Many people start from this last part, and that often leads to desperation and imbalance.

Imagine trying to learn to swim while being in constant doubt and confusion about whether there is actually water in the world.

(Under that condition, the blind skeptic and the blind-faith believer are in equal amounts of trouble.)

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#193

Recognizing how and where things are already existent and already happening, also helps to protect you from an imbalanced, grandiose Colonizer’s Mentality with regard to your practice, your growth, and your development.

In addition to being aesthetically unpleasant, such a mentality tends to give rise to predictable negative consequences: lack of situational context, external/internal disharmonies, and so on.

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#194

I disagree that having the experience of energy is essential to beginning practices and studying teaches related to energy. I agree that true belief in the existence of “energy” is essential, but many people have either not enough innate energy or enough sensitivity to hope to experience energy in their system without an initiation from a teacher or guru.

Practicing basic forms of energy cultivation by rote; such as simple qi gong routines, breathwork routines such as Tummo and sitting meditations like vipassana or body scanning can all work to develop sensitivity and build energies up to levels high enough to actually work with. Of course practicing these without any tangible results beyond the benefits that come with sticking to any disciplined routine adds a whole new layer of difficulty as expectations and anxiety are kryptonite to the energy worker, but being able to overcome that difficulty only assists one’s journey.

#195

But there’s so much more to energy than just the energy in your body.

What I’m talking about is how helpful it is to engage with a paradigm, in addition to engaging with practices.

The wind and the weather around you are energy. The circadian rhythms involve energy as well. There are many places to go to that go beyond simple control, cultivation, and stockpiling.

Energy is natural.

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#196

It is a semantic disagreement then, the omnipresence of externally experienced energy is why I think experience of internal energies isn’t a requisite for beginning study or practices related to energy.

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#197

Replace “Energy” with “Subconscious Mind” and you will see how most people outside of this forum don’t even know about and believe in having a subconscious mind. :smiley:

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#198

My friend send me this today. The path of kriyas, very fascinating. Might be interested for those running new alchemist!

Probably a manifestation from new alchemist anyway!

https://youtube.com/shorts/d9o0WozuGTo?si=qm7Txo9zUNtJq5nm

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#199

Had a strong vision of this program today and the potential when used along your Spiritual tradition and path is simply tremendous.

The sense of attention to detail and precision to my practice this is instilling in me is rarely found in modern practitioners.

For many ages human beings have been weakening generation by generation, the contrast in strength, mental agility and general fortitude of human beings compared to generations before us is nearly unbelievable which can easily be observed by the rapid onset of depression, mental diseases and a general health pandemic across the world.

Now this here, with the right practices and the proper attitudes, with absolute dedication can elevate you so far above the common standards that most people might be convinced you are not even from earth.

My practises have taken on a new depth, the sheer intensity and focus have lead me to be completely absorbed in profound states of meditation and inner silence. A silence that is not of mere sound but one that goes beyond the physical nature entirely. I can feel small particles of light flowing through my being, my entire body starts feeling as light as a feather.

A tensionless existence will for sure be mine with continued progress and practice. Enlightenment can be achieved by all who sincerely wish to accomplish the goal of absolute inner well-being and ecstasy.

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#200

In the description of St3 this is mentioned. Does that mean the first two stages do not have any spiritual protections on them?

I want to know because I feel like having spiritual protection is very important for me and would be very valuable.

#201

They do. ST3 goes into it further as you’re advancing in your practice thus would need more of the protection.

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#202

Good to know, I have also discovered Stage 1 offers far more than what is actually written in the description. You just never know what and have to discover yourself!

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#203

This is the case with all programs; they contain more than is written

#204

What would Stage 2 of New Alchemist + Formless Clarity + S: Semper Praesens do in a Vipassana retreat?

That would be VERY interesting. While everyone has no hold over there mind and can’t wait for it to be over, you may just be dissolving yourself completely into the silence of the present. Discovering new layers of the self behind various barriers of mind and thought that you had never even known existed.

I really want to try this myself.

For someone who does not know what is vipassana retreat: https://youtu.be/EjRoOrm9WKI?si=JUgqQf56oPpo_QDU

Beyond the constant influx of thoughts and mental distraction actually lies a field of incredible bliss and happiness, if we can access this, suffering ceases to exist and time starts to function different for us as we begin to live in presence instead of the mind.

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#205

Anyone who has combined this with Revelation of Spirit before?

These two and Godlike Masculinity would make an interesting triad if you ask me. Merging those Spiritual aspects within the framework of a Masculine individual who can apply them actively in his physical life. One who has mastered both heaven and earth.

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#206

I think Saint has mentioned somewhere that Alchemist+RoS might be a bit too much for most people.
Think how RoS has this warning not to combine it with too many modules in the spiritual category to begin with.

#207

What’s the reason? If it is most people I am not most since I already left my entire old life behind for walking the Spiritual path. Probably if you are working a job, having a family and just a regular life in general unfolding experience in combination with another Spiritual program may just cause difficult disruption in everything you know as reality for you.

Actually Spiritual path is a total transformation, if you are not willing to untangle yourself from everything you know and now care for and still walk that path with any such attachments it will become the most torturous experience.

Since I am anyway already beyond that, as I have quite a time ago come to a state where the universe, life or God can just take me without any resistance I think it may be more supportive than anything else and just accelerate a natural process that is already unfolding within me.

I trust the path, anything that disappears from my reality is not meant to be there in the first place, this is how I see it. I am fully allowing it all to occur.

#208

There’s also the contrasting vectors of the two programs.

The whole ‘Making Something Happen’ (Alchemist) vs. ‘Allowing Something to Happen’ (Revelation of Spirit) contrast.

Sometimes one can distract from the other.

I think the path is an infinite staircase (that goes up, down, in circles, and all around). You detach from the previous stair only to eventually realize that you are now a bit attached to the new stair. And then when you’re ready, you take yet another step. Dying again, being born again; over and over again.

And it turns out that that is quite alright.

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