For anyone who has run this or is running this- what kind of practice do you do?
@SaintSovereign I’m kind of replying to a post you made almost an hour ago on ‘Main Disc. Thread - Fire vs. Saint Round 4 [The Battle is On!]]’.
However, given that you were trying to get people to stop discussing occult things on there, I figured it might be more appropriate to post my (somewhat related) question here, since this is a spiritual Sub?
I think I recall you getting frustrated about some posts in the past, and commenting something along the lines of how many people report issues with recon/subs when it’s actually down to them doing flawed kundalini awakening practices they’ve gotten from YouTube videos lol
Which led me to wondering…
I haven’t really considered such things before, but when I read the product description for Khan, Khan Black and this Alchemist title, there were quite a few mentions of how although non-spiritually practicing people could benefit from it, there was a lot that could be unlocked by someone who had learned, or been learning, to control their sexual energy.
And since Khan/KB seem to have their foundations in the cultivation and employment of sexual energy, it got me to wondering… where CAN one go and learn that?
I have no aspirations to godhood or anything like that, but I’m certainly up for understanding, developing and learning to use my sexual (or other, but especially sexual) energy.
I also saw mention on those pages about semen retention or similar practices I think?
So my question is, for sexual energy education and semen retention and/or non-ejaculatory orgasms, are there any specific teachers/schools/practices that you or @Fire would recommend (as you’re the people who created these Subs)?
Ideally a globally accessible teacher or resource (i.e. online courses, or where they have rigorously trained and vetted accredited instructors worldwide) etc?
I’m based in the UK, if that helps 
I’ve been looking around a bit, but have no idea who’s considered legit and trusted generally, by people knowledgeable in this area. Books and even YouTube would be ok, but thorough online courses, or best of all, face to face teaching would be my preference.
Of course I’m happy to hear advice from anyone about this, but yeah, since Fire and SaintSovereign created these titles (sorry, I don’t know who created which ones!), it seemed sensible to start with them
And please excuse me if I’ve raised an unwelcome topic! Again, I’m quite new here so not sure if I’m inadvertently saying something I shouldn’t!
Qigong. Seek out a legitimate Qigong instructor. Because I don’t know enough to really recommend one, you’ll have to seek that yourself. However, @Fire is our resident Qigong thought-leader, as he’s certified to teach it and I did have him evaluate this course for questions just like this: https://www.taoistwellness.online/
He is reluctant to give it a complete cosign himself, as neither of us know the deeper teachings of this organization, but he did say that upon evaluating the publicly available materials, at the time he didn’t see any of the things that causes an immediate red flag. But, that was over a year ago when he looked at it, so use caution and discernment. There’s a lot of scammy and bad teachers out there.
That would be my recommendation, but ultimately it is up to you.
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What spiritual abilities did you discover with this?
& was it ever revealed what hidden features the last stage has?
If I have to describe stage one two words it would be definitely “spiritual accelerator”
Folks, please share some of your experiences with this I am super curious hehe
I notice a lot of spiritual information is surfacing from my unconscious to my conscious mind especially if I dwell around in my mind a little bit.
A bit of an inclination now to become more of strict disciplinarian which will be very good for me as I have never been very disciplined, but a certain sense of discipline can for sure turn your life around in a positive way. Every action leads to a consequence and if you keep up certain actions over time it will lead to results and that is what discipline is all about! A rigid schedule if held to is much like a formulae that must eventually lead to a certain outcome.
Discipline is only necessary until mastery is attained. If you have mastery you don’t need to discipline yourself as you will no longer be swayed by forces that divert you off your course and path.
You discipline because your emotions thoughts and energies are directed everywhere but to the destination you want to go. Even if you use your will power you will not be able to control very much about your own inner life as more superior forces have you in their grip. This is why you discipline yourself as a fundamental road to eventually attaining mastery.
No idea where this wisdom is coming from!
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Don’t skip the first two steps. The most important ones.
1 Realize that Energy is real
2 Begin to recognize where it already is in your experience and your world
Now, add practices and teachings and exercises to continue developing.
Many people start from this last part, and that often leads to desperation and imbalance.
Imagine trying to learn to swim while being in constant doubt and confusion about whether there is actually water in the world.
(Under that condition, the blind skeptic and the blind-faith believer are in equal amounts of trouble.)
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Recognizing how and where things are already existent and already happening, also helps to protect you from an imbalanced, grandiose Colonizer’s Mentality with regard to your practice, your growth, and your development.
In addition to being aesthetically unpleasant, such a mentality tends to give rise to predictable negative consequences: lack of situational context, external/internal disharmonies, and so on.
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I disagree that having the experience of energy is essential to beginning practices and studying teaches related to energy. I agree that true belief in the existence of “energy” is essential, but many people have either not enough innate energy or enough sensitivity to hope to experience energy in their system without an initiation from a teacher or guru.
Practicing basic forms of energy cultivation by rote; such as simple qi gong routines, breathwork routines such as Tummo and sitting meditations like vipassana or body scanning can all work to develop sensitivity and build energies up to levels high enough to actually work with. Of course practicing these without any tangible results beyond the benefits that come with sticking to any disciplined routine adds a whole new layer of difficulty as expectations and anxiety are kryptonite to the energy worker, but being able to overcome that difficulty only assists one’s journey.
But there’s so much more to energy than just the energy in your body.
What I’m talking about is how helpful it is to engage with a paradigm, in addition to engaging with practices.
The wind and the weather around you are energy. The circadian rhythms involve energy as well. There are many places to go to that go beyond simple control, cultivation, and stockpiling.
Energy is natural.
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It is a semantic disagreement then, the omnipresence of externally experienced energy is why I think experience of internal energies isn’t a requisite for beginning study or practices related to energy.
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Replace “Energy” with “Subconscious Mind” and you will see how most people outside of this forum don’t even know about and believe in having a subconscious mind. 
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