Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

[JCDenton]

@SaintSovereign

What would everyone like to see?

• RICH with money manifestations dialed to the max and manifesting it against all odds

• RICH Trader, including for getting to that “FU Money” level in the fastest way possible

• Astral Projection X

• RoS

• Love Bomb’s self forgiveness feature updated with the Inner Spa from Dragon Reborn Regeneration and the internal resilience and grounding from new GLM.

• KHAN Black Stage 1 with added focus on Root Chakra healing, development and traumas. Since the Root Chakra is the most important one to make it in this physical world and a prerequisite to even start working with the Sacral Chakra’s sexual energy.
  KHAN Black Stage 2/4 with added nervous system strengthening.

• Paragon Sleep updated with nervous system regeneration.

• Heartsong updated with the childlike wonder features from Beyond Limitless Into The Wonder → will open mind and heart up for the possibility of really meeting “The One”.

Stark Black upgraded with:

• the lessons learned from EE (for the productivity part)
• the lessons learned from QL4 (for the genius part)
• the lessons learned from the new EoG 1 and upcoming RICH upgrade (for the wealth part)
• the lessons learned from the nervous system regeneration from Dragon Reborn Regeneration (for the resilience part)
• and finally added with the looks increase part from the new WANTED. Enhancement of facial looks, especially the face, is the only major feature that ASBR is lacking in my opinion.
  Why should this be added? Because Looking Good and Fame exponentially synergize together!
  Having a more good looking face will also make sure that ASBR gets the most out of it when used for social media, social media marketing, live product presentations and everything where people looking at your face will decide between success or rejection, between getting the job/contract/resources or not.
  A better looking face will also enhance the NRE part of ASBR.

Thank you for consideration.

[Avengers68]

@SaintSovereign I imagine a Zen title with Spa as the main feature and all the things around confidence, self worth etc

[Adi]

The people have spoken an 8 to 1 ratio

@SaintSovereign

… and so another idea we started researching came into view as the solution…

Which is what?

[Michel]

As a past heavy user of Ascension I would release the “foundation” title as the Ascension upgrade.

• Those that return to Ascension want to cover the absolute basics.
• New users get recommended Ascension as the first sub. Now we have Genesis OG as the official first title, Ascension could be the prep sub.
• An upgraded version ends up being a refined, higher octave than the original. Regen got the inner spa treatment, Wanted a significant rewrite, GLM became stoic.
• Status, romance, self betterment, drive can sit well with the aims of the foundation title. If not, a user can always stack it with Genesis OG or another title.
• Foundational issues keep cropping up even when new upgrades get released. (Me with Wanted for example)
• Ascension’s past aggressive self drive could be remade with the quiet self grounding and assuredness (from GLM)
• Users like me, @Fractal_Explorer @subliminalguy @CurlyGirl have had unfair early battles with just existing as a perfectly ok human being where feeling good about oneself is a basic need of ours.
• Ascension is marketed as the Alpha Male sub. The new version can keep the Ascension theme but it is the Ascension of the self. Rise yourself up to the challenge or sooner other slogan.
• Emperor is the real Ascension upgrade. Better to upset Ascension fans than Emperor fans 🫣

[subliminalguy]

@Prioritas

Actually yes, this is a good point. Let Emperor be the defacto alpha title, and riff off Ascension in a new direction

Actually, I wouldn’t encourage this.

In a sentence, you’re overcoming yourself with Ascension.

With Emperor, you’re overcoming the world.

Two completely different focuses. Which is why Emperor feels much more serious and focused.
Ascension just feels awesome.

[Martin]

@Michel

Users like me, @Fractal_Explorer @subliminalguy @CurlyGirl have had unfair early battles with just existing as a perfectly ok human being where feeling good about oneself is a basic need of ours.

I understand that and in my experience I didn’t like Emperor because I was getting depressed of the do do do feeling like I had to achieve things and it was rest less even when I didn’t have solutions. Kinda depressing.
Ascension in my experience had enough drive and kick to better myself but I left it because for me it didn’t have enough external effect to me. And I didn’t feel enough confidence yet I felt better running it. But I like the rise to the challenge angle like kinda like you become confident self love so you czn do anything like you become a real life winner. Like the cool high school guy in the movies who knows his worth is cool doesn’t have to be the top dog but know his work and knows how to achieve things

[btaras]

I think better new title because we will have more choice. We will get new title soon and upgraded Ascention later.

[Parsifal]

@SaintSovereign

That’s what we were thinking too. Ascension came out in the very beginning, and then we kept making alpha titles and the various spin-offs, putting Ascension in a strange place where just doing a basic faithful upgrade wouldn’t quite be fair to the customers.

I voted for the possibly trite rewrite of Ascension for the simple reason that it’s kinda Emperor Light.
Yes many titles cover the aspects that Ascension covers as well. But they cover much more.
And need much longer to show certain effects, especially when you’re not good with conscience guidance.

When I started subs over 2 years ago, I chose emperor because it covered so much and I was broke.
But after 4 months I grew a lot, but didn’t gain the one thing I desired.

7 months later I started to use Ascension and got what I wanted in under a week.
And that’s for someone who most often needs more than a cycle to see positive results.

What I so love about Ascension is that it’s so damn focused. It’s not the floodlight showing you everything that’s possible. It’s rather the blowtorch that uses less energy but focused on a small area and changes things fast.

For me Ascension is like one of those single module customs you produced by accident earlier this year. Super focused and super fast acting. I still hear @RagnarLothbrok in my ears how transformative these 15 minutes were.

[SaintSovereign]

@subliminalguy

In a sentence, you’re overcoming yourself with Ascension.

This would still be the goal with Ascension. Same goals as before. It is the mechanism of action that changed. Think of it the same way Dragon Reborn: Regeneration addresses healing in a different way than before. The fact that DR: Regeneration’s method of action evolved out of GLM is the only reason why more people didn’t question it.

[heartmadeiron]

This threads convincing me to give Accession a try (with GLM and Wanted).

[heartmadeiron]

@SaintSovereign

Because it’s one of those things where I’d need a lot of space to explain, and the copy is the best place for that.

I know you can’t give a complete overview, but how about how it relates to the ‘Into Wonder’ theme?

[SaintSovereign]

@heartmadeiron

I know you can’t give a complete overview, but how about how it relates to the ‘Into Wonder’ theme?

The Wonder, expressing through the simplest of actions. “How can something so simple lead to results so incredible?”

[heartmadeiron]

I dig it. Feels like what you’d recommend to someone who needs help taking action. Simple action = clear results.

[Ravenscout]

@SaintSovereign

@Adi

Self-esteem, self-worth, confidence, self-respect, self-love, intelligence, insight and self-awareness, self-belief, self-acceptance, will and drive plus a desire to changes ones life and turn it around completely? That wholesome man that got everything under control and knows what he wants in life.

We are working on this, and it is near completion. We’re simply debating whether it will be a new product or an upgrade. I’m also wondering if people will think that we’ve lost our minds regarding it’s mechanism of action, rofl. It is the simplest of ideas, but the one who really thinks about it will understand and reap incredible results.

I realize that it’s probably too late to add this but I’ve been thinking that weight issues (difficulty to lose weight) plague a LOT of people and being overweight and struggling to lose weight can definitely affect people’s “Self-esteem, self-worth, confidence, self-respect, self-love… self-belief, self-acceptance, desire to changes ones life”.

If there can be some scripting that could help people who struggle with this issue it could REALLY help boost people’s self issues. I know I struggle with this and have for decades and it has directly hindered my ability to accept myself, feel sexy, attractive, wanted, and self confidence. I know there is “fat burn” module for customs, but it would be amazing to have this added for those whose weight directly affects their internal self acceptance.

[Chase]

The current Ascension has physical shifting in it that implies the effect you want * Includes scripting to assist with physical shifting: grow physically stronger, with a more aesthetically pleasing body (as defined by you) *

But yes @SaintSovereign please keep or enhance the physical shifting in new Ascension.

[Adi]

I think many of these things are directly related to your self-esteem and self-worth. Like if you have high self-esteem and value yourself you will most likely take good care of your looks and appearance, you know. They are related.

[heartmadeiron]

@Adi

They are related.

Plenty of folks still struggle with weight issues despite high esteem and self worth, and impeccable grooming. There’s still validity in asking for weight management scripting.

[Martin]

@Ravenscout

I realize that it’s probably too late to add this but I’ve been thinking that weight issues (difficulty to lose weight) plague a LOT of people and being overweight and struggling to lose weight can definitely affect people’s “Self-esteem, self-worth, confidence, self-respect, self-love… self-belief, self-acceptance, desire to changes ones life”.

@Adi

I think many of these things are directly related to your self-esteem and self-worth. Like if you have high self-esteem and value yourself you will most likely take good care of your looks and appearance, you know. They are related.

Why overcomplicate things?
Weight management is mostly calories deficit and healthy eating. Why not just that?
Is there a module that help with healthy eating?

[Judoka]

I woudn’t mind another title thats similar to emperor lol,i actually was kind of hoping Ascension would be just that,a title thats similar to emperor but updated will all the new tech and scripts and lessons learned from recent subliminals.

But also why do that when they can just update emperor again? I dont know

[Judoka]

Ok so can i still post questions in the questions and comments area but just not stuff related to headphones/volume?