Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

Actually, I wouldn’t encourage this.

In a sentence, you’re overcoming yourself with Ascension.

With Emperor, you’re overcoming the world.

Two completely different focuses. Which is why Emperor feels much more serious and focused.
Ascension just feels awesome.

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I understand that and in my experience I didn’t like Emperor because I was getting depressed of the do do do feeling like I had to achieve things and it was rest less even when I didn’t have solutions. Kinda depressing.
Ascension in my experience had enough drive and kick to better myself but I left it because for me it didn’t have enough external effect to me. And I didn’t feel enough confidence yet I felt better running it. But I like the rise to the challenge angle like kinda like you become confident self love so you czn do anything like you become a real life winner. Like the cool high school guy in the movies who knows his worth is cool doesn’t have to be the top dog but know his work and knows how to achieve things

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I think better new title because we will have more choice. We will get new title soon and upgraded Ascention later.

I voted for the possibly trite rewrite of Ascension for the simple reason that it’s kinda Emperor Light.
Yes many titles cover the aspects that Ascension covers as well. But they cover much more.
And need much longer to show certain effects, especially when you’re not good with conscience guidance.

When I started subs over 2 years ago, I chose emperor because it covered so much and I was broke.
But after 4 months I grew a lot, but didn’t gain the one thing I desired.

7 months later I started to use Ascension and got what I wanted in under a week.
And that’s for someone who most often needs more than a cycle to see positive results.

What I so love about Ascension is that it’s so damn focused. It’s not the floodlight showing you everything that’s possible. It’s rather the blowtorch that uses less energy but focused on a small area and changes things fast.

For me Ascension is like one of those single module customs you produced by accident earlier this year. Super focused and super fast acting. I still hear @RagnarLothbrok in my ears how transformative these 15 minutes were.

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This would still be the goal with Ascension. Same goals as before. It is the mechanism of action that changed. Think of it the same way Dragon Reborn: Regeneration addresses healing in a different way than before. The fact that DR: Regeneration’s method of action evolved out of GLM is the only reason why more people didn’t question it.

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This threads convincing me to give Accession a try (with GLM and Wanted).

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I know you can’t give a complete overview, but how about how it relates to the ‘Into Wonder’ theme?

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The Wonder, expressing through the simplest of actions. “How can something so simple lead to results so incredible?”

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I dig it. Feels like what you’d recommend to someone who needs help taking action. Simple action = clear results.

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I realize that it’s probably too late to add this but I’ve been thinking that weight issues (difficulty to lose weight) plague a LOT of people and being overweight and struggling to lose weight can definitely affect people’s “Self-esteem, self-worth, confidence, self-respect, self-love… self-belief, self-acceptance, desire to changes ones life”.

If there can be some scripting that could help people who struggle with this issue it could REALLY help boost people’s self issues. I know I struggle with this and have for decades and it has directly hindered my ability to accept myself, feel sexy, attractive, wanted, and self confidence. I know there is “fat burn” module for customs, but it would be amazing to have this added for those whose weight directly affects their internal self acceptance.

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The current Ascension has physical shifting in it that implies the effect you want :point_right: * Includes scripting to assist with physical shifting: grow physically stronger, with a more aesthetically pleasing body (as defined by you) *

But yes @SaintSovereign please keep or enhance the physical shifting in new Ascension.

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I think many of these things are directly related to your self-esteem and self-worth. Like if you have high self-esteem and value yourself you will most likely take good care of your looks and appearance, you know. They are related.

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Plenty of folks still struggle with weight issues despite high esteem and self worth, and impeccable grooming. There’s still validity in asking for weight management scripting.

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Why overcomplicate things?
Weight management is mostly calories deficit and healthy eating. Why not just that?
Is there a module that help with healthy eating?

I woudn’t mind another title thats similar to emperor lol,i actually was kind of hoping Ascension would be just that,a title thats similar to emperor but updated will all the new tech and scripts and lessons learned from recent subliminals.

But also why do that when they can just update emperor again? I dont know

Ok so can i still post questions in the questions and comments area but just not stuff related to headphones/volume?

Because we are no simple bomb calorimeters.
What even is a calorie?
Fat sometimes has up to nine calories per gram, and most don’t know that sometimes it’s only four.
But if your body decides to use the fat for repairing cell walls or brain repair it becomes Zero.
Same goes for proteins. Especially if they are a from a good source (like gras fed beef) that has our optimal amino acids configuration they are often rather used for repair than for energy.
Carbs are the only exception since they’re only good for energy. And even with carbs there are exceptions like sugar alcohols or complex carbs from full grain products.

And that still doesn’t account for the subconscious influence on weight. Our body/sc can increase and decrease the level of energy you spend while not doing anything. It can slow your thoughts, reduce unnecessary movements and decrease body temperature for example to reduce the energy you spend.

Also the topic of eating healthy is extremely complex since eating disorders are heavily influenced by emotions and Traumata.

I wish it would be as simple as “just eat healthy” but for 15 years I’m stuck on a set point. I can eat what I want, I always return to my set point. If I gain weight, I’ll loose it fast until I’m at this set point. If I loose weight (through eating healthy, a diet, caloric restrictions) I’ll gain it again once my will power is depleted.

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Agreeing with @Parsifal here.

Weight management is definitely not a simple matter of calories. It has to do with all kinds of things including toxins which get sequestered within fat cells.

Also different people metabolize fats, sugars, carbs, protein etc slightly differently. Me personally, when I was younger at least, I had a genetic or situational problem which caused me to not metabolize carbs properly, especially simple sugars. They would break down into alcohol, then into acetyl-aldehyde, and then the acetylaldehyde would not be metabolized or break down properly into a form thjat could be excreted from the body. This meant physical problems like clumsiness while the toxins were being eliminated.

Also, not all weight is fat. Some of it is going to be cr-p stored in the large and small intestines which haven’t been eliminated because its stuck to the intestinal walls and hasn’t been moved to the rectum yet.

People like to think that obesity is all about fat. It’s not. There are all sorts of digestive issues that can be contributing to weight problems.

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@AnswerGroup what are you guys currently working on?

Is paragon close to dropping or emperor executive hotfix

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That’s what I am talking about.

I am not saying weight management is easy or difficult.

We know those practices lead to weight loss.
If the solution is will power, food education and related trauma healing it seems to me easier to tackle those with subliminal than tackling the broader elusive “self love" concept.

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