Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

@SaintSovereign

Do we still suspect RM by end of September/October?

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I think so. I want to run it myself. :wink:

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This is always a really good pairing, especially if you are going into tech innovation.

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I’m assuming not much has happened with the suggested subs? but if you’re likely to pick one which would you do? ie which stands out the most?

Oh how’s the masks going? On backburner?

Emperor Black is still in brainstorming stage, and Khan Black is active development.

There’s still things to iron out in Khan Black, but for now there’s been an extensive improvement/overhaul in its underlying mechanism to make it more effective and efficient, while adding some things people have struggled with - making it easier to run while being more effective.

For example, some individuals will start off well with Khan Black, but then have a relapse, get hit by illness, or some other event, waste a whole bunch of energy and then never resume working on it because they get stuck in a loop of ā€œoh, I lost it already, might as well get back on it tomorrowā€, and then when tomorrow comes ā€œah, I lost it yesterday, might as well get back to it tomorrow and today is freeā€.

Discouraging that self-defeating loop will help people better manage the internal energy created by Khan Black.

There’s some more features we’re going to be adding, but it’s a very careful balancing act - we don’t want to add too many to a title such as Khan Black, where the main point is the generation of the base inner energy, and not the auxiliary features.

But, some of these are also important, as not dealing with some of them can slow the main mechanism down - which is why we’ll have things like fear of owning your own sexuality and embracing yourself as a sexual being, as well as clearing out old rejections/humiliations.

Right now the main development stage is ST4, and we’re brainstorming how to best execute this part of the title. Finally, no ETAs at this moment, but we might open a main idea thread for it soon - while there are no promises for any ideas making it in as Khan Black is a highly intricate title, it might help optimize some of the new features. We’ll see.

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Will KB keep its structure will it become a suite of four subs without a fixed order?

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You’ll understand this, I’m trying to get a hang of it, but let it teach us to touch the peen, without using our hands, got out of our head and into the body… etc

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Please say that doesn’t affect the scripting at all hahaah.

Would limitless over ASBR be more beneficial with Index Gate?

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Just my 2 cents:

I don’t think we should try to fix what isn’t broken. From what I’ve seen with Wanted Black journals, some users seem to struggle with handling the intensity of Wanted Black because it can be so powerful. The average person may become overwhelmed by the increased attention and sexual experiences, and eventually shift toward monogamy or become satisfied with their current situation. From there, they may naturally redirect their focus toward wealth, purpose, status, or other meaningful goals.

Honestly, I think that should be the ultimate aim of every subliminal: to eventually help the user reach a point where they no longer feel dependent on using subliminals. That might be bad for business, but it would be great for people.

Even those who remain on that path can eventually become tired of having an extremely active sex life. Having the title or external achievements alone, even while doing very little, may not be enough to fill the deeper void. Eventually, many people start looking for a higher purpose.

That said, I don’t think we should dismiss the role that sexual abundance can play in helping some men overcome loneliness and darkness. There are many men who struggle to find intimacy, and even a small improvement in their romantic or sexual lives could make an enormous difference to their overall happiness and confidence. There are also arguments that fulfilling social and intimate needs can reduce frustration and potentially contribute to less antisocial behavior.

In a hypothetical scenario, if every man in the world suddenly had access to the same level of attention and intimacy, the situation would become more balanced. Fewer people would feel completely left out, and society as a whole might benefit rather than having those experiences concentrated among only a small percentage of men.

I genuinely mean this with respect, and I hope it doesn’t come across as criticism just because I have a low post count.

I’m rooting for SaintSovereign, and I hope he runs some Khan and Limitless, dominates the debates, and ultimately wins people over through the strength of his ideas.

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@SaintSovereign which stage would have more lead manifestations that are high quality and want to buy what we’re selling. ST1 or ST2?

I’m not sure which one to pick when it’s out since I’m planning to upgrade to a QTKS custom as soon as EoG: True Sell comes out so I want to make sure I’m picking the right option.

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What are you using it for? If it’s just for learning that might work well, but ASBR adds fuel, general cognitive enhancement, and wealth to whatever your stack is.

ASBR + Index Gate gives me strong tech startup vibes, whereas Limitless + Index Gate feels like what one would run if they’re trying to learn/get used to a new position or industry in tech.

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Stage 2 is what you’re looking for. Stage 1 also contains this scripting, but it shares space with scripting across the entire four stages. 2, 3 and 4 are laser focused on specific things.

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@SaintSovereign is there a delay with customs recently? Know you’re busy with True Sell and stuff! :slight_smile:

I ordered 2 customs on the 28th July… I’m rubbish with time zones and stuff, so I don’t know whether they’re late yet or not?
Can DM you the order numbers if you need; just let me know! :slight_smile:

No, I think you’ll get them today (5 business days)

I’m equally excited to mine in a few days too :slight_smile:

I appreciate the sentiment but I have already won those debates. That happened like… six months ago or something, rofl. They occur in early development. People are getting themselves riled up by a fun little comment giving everyone an inside look at how in-depth we are with creating our titles. I won’t share if people cannot read what I actually said rather than projecting fear. And I don’t try to win debates through domination, I win through logic, precision, strategy, and accuracy.

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There is a 1-2 day delay, yes. We are getting bombarded due to the new module pack and PEACE. But we will most likely catch up today.

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Even if it’s a title that I’m planning to run for years to come? (1+ year at least)

I’m worried that if I run ST2 and I feel like I’m missing something with my results (maybe like closing skills) 3 months in and then I’d have to make another QTKS custom and change it for another stage or go to ST1. I’ve already ran the old True Sell for over a year now too. Thoughts @SaintSovereign ?

That you speak so highly of the Ethic folks is a plus in my book.

Edit: relax folks. I’ve done work in Ethics and Compliance, it really isn’t that deep xD

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People keep forgetting that we hired them specifically for The Crucible process. The purpose is to provide hard opposition to force refinement or help us see things we missed.

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