Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

[Benny]

@SaintSovereign
I feel we need more time before we can give feedback on the new titles

If there’s a specific questions you need to ask us it might help to clarify the answer.

WDB - very transparent and authentic, I’ve felt the anti recon script with the new wanted less with WDB. With WDB however I’ve been more me funny and less in my head.

ECC - few loops and nothing much to report just yet. In my experience HOM felt faster acting and I liked HOM a lot. With this one I still don’t know what it’s doing comparing to HOM. Need more time…

Paragon - Very strong acting - headaches and prefrontal cortex pain and pressure which might be brain healing? Not sure. Attracted some way of healing - similar to the old version in the regard, I mean with attracting ways to try to heal oneself.
Not sure if the new paragon is what helping with the No PMO thing.
Need more time… But the headache and then periods of bit more clarity makes me currently think it’s stronger but not easier to use.
That’s why you came with the micro loops thing.

RICH - I have it but don’t want to try it just yet…

Thanks

[Plutus]

@SaintSovereign

C&C is technically ZPv2 with ZPU tech. R.I.C.H. and R.I.C.H. Trader are Zero Point Union Preview. None of them are full-blown ZPU. The distinctions between ZPv2 with ZPU tch and ZPU Preview are murky, since they all contain the same type of scripting.

So in that case, is my understanding correct for the question I had about C&C? @SaintSovereign

[SaintSovereign]

@Plutus

So in that case, is my understanding correct for the question I had about C&C? @SaintSovereign

What was the question? I’m really not scrolling through pages of arguments over terminology and whatever NoFap mess was going on, lol.

[SaintSovereign]

@Benny

If there’s a specific questions you need to ask us it might help to clarify the answer.

No specific question. Just feedback.

But for the record (and this is addressed to everyone), we’re not buying into “the old was so much better,” when I can look at the R.I.C.H. and C&C threads (for example), as well as all the private feedback and see that ZPU is leaving Qv2 in the dust.

No going back.

[Judoka]

Do you think we could ever get the option to download and listen to the previous versions again if someone wants to?

[jelly]

Doesn’t that just give the “old ____ was so much better” people more fuel? Even if the direction of a specific title changed, the way they’re broadening and expanding things now makes it so that exact niche will still be filled sooner or later.

[Fire]

@Judoka

Do you think we could ever get the option to download and listen to the previous versions again if someone wants to?

@SaintSovereign

all the private feedback and see that ZPU is leaving Qv2 in the dust.

No going back.

[Benny]

@Judoka

Do you think we could ever get the option to download and listen to the previous versions again if someone wants to?

It’s probably recon you come across…

Give it more time Paragon is great be patient.

[Plutus]

This was the question @SaintSovereign .

So basically when running something like Emperor: Crown & Capital we can decide to express only the features about career, sales, etc and not express the ones like tax, investing, etc if we don’t want to cover/take/need action on those aspects. Am I understanding it correctly?

Also if someone wants to replace SB with C&C in a custom. What modules would you recommend they put in a custom to cover something similar on the Cognitive Enhancements side SB gives?

And the other question was does C&C have something like Lifeblood Fable like in HoM or it doesn’t anymore so you’d recommend adding it in a custom?

Nothing related to NoFap don’t worry lol.

[Layman]

@SaintSovereign hey, hope you had a good and restorative weekend!
In typical bad timing, I sent you a PM, around the time you said you were burnt out and needed a break

It’s about a custom order I need to place, would be great if you have time to reply

Regarding ZP(U) feedback, one thing I’ve noticed is that my DR: Regeneration custom seems to be suddenly more active since I added new Paragon to my stack. A lot of difficult memories popping into my head every day, but without the previous traumatic response (exactly as per DR: Regeneration scripting, hurrah!)

[SaintSovereign]

@Plutus

So basically when running something like Emperor: Crown & Capital we can decide to express only the features about career, sales, etc and not express the ones like tax, investing, etc if we don’t want to cover/take/need action on those aspects. Am I understanding it correctly?

Yes, that is the main point of Adaptive Scripting and ZPU tech.

@Plutus

Also if someone wants to replace SB with C&C in a custom. What modules would you recommend they put in a custom to cover something similar on the Cognitive Enhancements side SB gives?

There’s so many cognitive enhancement modules and cores and such that it’s hard to make any kind of personalized recommendation. Find a module or two that most appeals to you, then I can accurately answer this question.

@Plutus

And the other question was does C&C have something like Lifeblood Fable like in HoM or it doesn’t anymore so you’d recommend adding it in a custom?

C&C has everything HoM has and more. A few people are reporting that it “feels different,” (something that is subjective), not that it is lacking.

[SaintSovereign]

@jelly

Doesn’t that just give the “old ____ was so much better” people more fuel? Even if the direction of a specific title changed, the way they’re broadening and expanding things now makes it so that exact niche will still be filled sooner or later.

I don’t even want this to become a distracting topic of discussion. People have been using ZPU tech since Emperor: The Art of War, with great success. GLM. DR: Regeneration, all ZPU tech. C&C comes out, some people don’t like how it “feels” and suddenly ZPU has an “issue.” While I respect those opinions, there’s no way we’re going backward while anyone can clearly go to any of those threads and see the profound effect ZPU has.

[Plutus]

@SaintSovereign

There’s so many cognitive enhancement modules and cores and such that it’s hard to make any kind of personalized recommendation. Find a module or two that most appeals to you, then I can accurately answer this question.

I have two slots left in a potential C&C, RICH and True sell custom. Currently considering:

1 - IQ Booster
2 - Visionary
3 - RAIKOV
4 - Technoligcal Prodigy (for learning things in the tech space and work relating to tech fast and be the best at it)

Out of those 4, which ones would you recommend I add in this case? Considering I’m trying to get similar cognitive results to SB but more focused on the tech space and learning fast and being the best at my work. @SaintSovereign

[SaintSovereign]

You’d technically need all of those to match ASBR (you might be able to drop IQ Booster). RAIKOV would also be the most optional, but I’d keep that one. It’s just a good title to run for any learning situation.

[Plutus]

@SaintSovereign

You’d technically need all of those to match ASBR (you might be able to drop IQ Booster). RAIKOV would also be the most optional, but I’d keep that one. It’s just a good title to run for any learning situation.

If I add Technoligcal Prodigy and that leaves me with only one slot left, what would be the best module to add out of those 3 then if it’s a sales role but more so on the engineering/tech side so learning fast and applying that knowledge to the work fast is essential? @SaintSovereign

Also for RAIKOV, I meant the module not the title if that helps.

Debating between Visionary, RAIKOV, IQ Booster to learn things fast and applying them fast as an expert in the field. Looking forward to hear your thoughts before I buy this custom.

Not sure if it helps but I have a QTKS custom with Mind’s Eye already which I’d be stacking with this one.

[Plutus]

@SaintSovereign

C&C has everything HoM has and more. A few people are reporting that it “feels different,” (something that is subjective), not that it is lacking.

Really? Now I’m wondering where all the misunderstanding came from (including from me) if that’s the case. Thank you for sharing that. This changes a lot.

[heartmadeiron]

@SaintSovereign

Yes, that is the main point of Adaptive Scripting and ZPU tech.

Fascinating. That’s how I’ve been approaching Dream Boy and now I’m excited to try RICH.

[Judoka]

Understood but i dont see why we cant just have it as a option you know? Like if i want to download the zpv2 version or zpu version?

[SaintSovereign]

@Judoka

Understood but i dont see why we cant just have it as a option you know? Like if i want to download the zpv2 version or zpu version?

Too much to support. Too much to maintain. Too many SKUs. Being locked into older technology because a small contingent is sabotaging their own results. We aren’t going that route.

[Fractal_Explorer]

@SaintSovereign

all ZPU tech. C&C comes out, some people don’t like how it “feels” and suddenly ZPU has an “issue.” While I respect those opinions, there’s no way we’re going backward while anyone can clearly go to any of those threads and see the profound effect ZPU has.

Always amazed at these cycles. I feel like we’ve been here before word for word before with other tech lol