Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

#3939

yes, KB ------Is this true mastery—or fear of desire?

When desire is labeled as “weakness,” retention can quietly turn into avoidance disguised as discipline.

That said, there does need to be a hyper-focused sexual healing solution for that specific demographic—delivered as a single, standalone disc. One clear purpose. One clear audience.

Right now, there’s no real alternative framework being offered. Instead, the belief system hardens. People spiral, talk about self-harm, and then rush to report anyone who challenges the narrative to the moderators. It starts to resemble an incel-like feedback loop rather than a path to growth or healing.

#3940

Got it @SaintSovereign ! I did exactly that. I took a rest period yesterday and slept an extra 2 hours today and feel 100% better. Thank you for the advice.

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#3941

I think what your missing is that people can get both height increase and make enhancement through customs.

If you don’t want something and it’s in the script it doesn’t just magically go away, it still gets processed and can cause both recon and distraction if you really don’t want it. And will lead people away from titles if they are wise.

Also its simply not true that male enhancement and height increase are good everybody. It’s just not true man.

Above a certain size of penis, it can actually cause more sexual dysfunction than being small.

Despite what porn would have people believe, most women don’t want a massive penis. It’s painful/uncomfortable, makes certain sex acts either difficult or impossible, and has led to some ruined relationships.

7 inches is huge to most women but still reasonable enough to be enjoyable, and its close to the upper maximum if you want frequent pain-free sex. Much bigger than that, and the pool of women who want to have sex (beyond the thrill of a one night stand) starts to get pretty small.

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#3942

I think Khan Black stage one can help with that, but you can go ahead and add your idea on the roadmap.

#3943

@SaintSovereign with the upcoming EoG: True Sell and stacking it with new RICH and Stark Black, can I replace/remove EoG ST2 from my stack then if my goal is corporate career success/corporate sales or do you recommend I still keep it?

And would I lose out on these manifestations if I remove EoG ST2 from my stack?: Main Disc. Thread - The NEW Ecstasy of Gold (2025 - Now Available!) - #19 by SaintSovereign

#3944

I think the whole program helps with it

It’s just people buying a four-disc set for 100 bucks

Just to use one disk

#3945

Honestly I don’t get you point.

#3946

I think the overall program actually works.

The issue is that people are spending $100 on a four-disc set just to use one disc.

offer an uncut version for the people who are really into KB.

And give the PMO-focused crowd their own separate spin-off.

You know how you are talking about having sex with your girl

They want to talk about how looking at boob makes them want to kill themself

@ Anon778943244

If you say you like blue, and I say I like red, would it make sense for me to respond with,

“Yeah, but the last time I liked red, I wanted to hurt myself.”?

Of course not. That would be projecting one’s own issues onto something neutral — not addressing what was actually said.

#3947

If I say, “Hey, maybe try Acceptance and Commitment Therapy for PMO,”

why does the conversation suddenly jump to extreme, personal crisis stories?

That’s not what’s being discussed.

Let’s compare method A vs. method B — what works, why it works, and for whom.

Not anonymous melodrama.

Not emotional projection.

Just a clear discussion of approaches and outcomes.

#3948

About the saperate title for no PMO
There are two modules for these names “Inner Gasoline” and “Stop porn and masturbation” which one can include in their custom if they struggle with it
But for a major title, I think it’s because the subject matter is too small for a major title, that’s why there’s only module(s) for that.
But I support the idea of standalone modules with & without name embedding, a very good idea actually.
@praisetheurdtree @Forexpreneur @Judoka this actually solves the height and male enhancement issues.
Single modules with smaller loops so that one can create their own customs in a way. Like 1 minute loop for each module. Not necessarily name embedded. And also shorter durations for cores but maybe less dense builds than Zero Point Standard?

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#3949

@ Anon778943244

If a major title is too much :

They could also include some inner-spa / GLM-style content—health, wealth, and relationships—to round it out. Or, if that’s too much, just keep it light and tight.

#3950

Since starting to run R.I.C.H., I have way more clarity about what I want and how to get it. I had a huge insight that I was overthinking my offer. It got me one client and 10 sign-ups for a free thing. Then I was like, maybe the wording needs to be better.

And nothing.

So having that insight sped up a lot of things for me.

The day after I ran it, my old mentor messaged me, “Let’s fix your business.”

But I would say the most prominent thing is that I feel zero worry or stress about money, even though nothing has externally changed yet.

I also thought about my stack and asked myself, what are the reasons for all these titles that don’t match me? And I idolized it as a golden projection.

I also felt extremely called to run WDB, even though I have not been dating. It’s like I missed the feeling of it.

So I guess my stack right now is WDB RICH until True Sell, as when I read the copy of the other wealth titles, I’m not pulled into any of them, except maybe Chosen and OG Stark, but I’m waiting for the update on those to see.

Also, I’m starting to get more comments on my videos and noticed my videos are getting a lot more pull energy instead of push. Even my tonality changed to softer yet calm.

Instead of sounding like a wealth guru.

Honestly when I first read the script of WDB, I was like this is me, This is the wanted I want, And

Wanted black was more like oh harem so coool, But I have dated several girls at once, It’s cool for my ego, But was is the most kind thing towards the girls, prolly not.

Like since the beginning of my dating, every girl i hook up with want a relationship with me. And I used that to my advantage.

But I guess we all go through our phases.

Let’s see what epic adventures wait on the horizon next.

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#3951

Does it hurt you, personally, that people have certain reaction to trauma that you don’t personally identify with?

Reaction that is outlined in multiple medical studies btw. (You can search “CSB in adulthood for victims of CSA” or “hypersexuality trauma response”)

That is something you could inquire about yourself, why it affect you so much that you’re still affected multiple days later.

Especially when you’re the one that keep bringing up nofap anti-scripting or scripting against PMO, which no one else suggested.

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#3952

I’m wondering, at what point did people start to realise they can use the products correctly, start following the new instruction manual and get better results?

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#3953

It doesn’t work like that
A title should have an overarching goal and theme so that all parts are coherent and work for a goal, it should be a niche if my English is correct.
If you’re willing to run all those with a small module of Nofap, then run Khan Black ST1, and it’s NSE updated version will be much smoother.

#3954

I wonder if genesis ascensions is just conscious guidance taken to the max

#3955

I wonder what sort of new tech will come after zpu lol its just more and more innovations

NSE > Anti Recon > Adaptive Scripting > ZPU,whats next? Adding in frequencies,morphic fields,Binaurals? Or will there be a plateu reached?

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#3956

And the recon is just decreasing immensely!!!
I don’t think there will be binaural beats or morphic fields included, because their expertise is about the interaction between subconscious and language.
And I don’t think there is something as a ceiling to innovation, honestly I think this whole thing of being able create profound inner changes with 15 minutes of audio files has been conceived from consciousness and at this point anything is possible. So they can innovate as long as they can imagine. There is Plateau, but it’ll always be transcended sooner or later.

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#3957

I had a thought about using bone conduction speakers for sound but never explored it. That could be interesting.

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#3958

There will always be some innovation or change that can be made to improve; that’s fundamental for any business to be successful.

I think ZP technology is already starting to use morphic fields, because it has similar effects (you can perceive the changes almost instantly after opening the files, but the effects tend to fade over time).

I deeply miss the sheer intensity of the old Q tech. It didn’t just suggest improvement; it forced it. Its unique ability to demand action and bypass the cycle of rationalization was unparalleled.

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