Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

Sure, if you’ve used the Major Titles that corresponds to those cores and found success. Or at least, that’s the INTENDED use. The experimental usage (and most common) is people using it to skirt the rule. And that’s fine – just make sure your stack is tight, that you’ve selected titles and cores that are synergistic in a way you can actually express on some level.

Adaptive scripting is going to help with a lot of this, given that the script will help you generate results at your level immediately, and those results gradually start building up until the next thing you know, you are not expressing R.I.C.H. Trader, you ARE a rich trader.

As we walk through the wonder, heading down the road to Zero Point Union, planning and progressive work is going to instrumental to an individual’s success. Those who embrace the idea of repeatable, testable results will find incredible success. This is the year of results. We’re going to add material to support and the instructions that discusses how to extract KPI (key performance indicators) from the copy that you can empirically test your results again, inspired by what we’ve seen multiple people do here.

While we’re not going to include them with every title (those KPIs would be more generic, not applicable to everyone), we will play around with some prompts in the popular AI suites and provide guidance on how to develop them. For example, I would only start with around 10 KPIs, unique to your life circumstances. Too many and you won’t see progress through the noise. Too little and you may miss growth opportunities. I’d take every feature in a script and create a KPI linked to it and then chart growth with that. Then expand into monetary goals and the such. But it’ll be up to you.

The point of all this is measurable and provable growth, which allows an individual to make better decisions about the titles they use and the customs they make. If you’re an overthinker (and I’m speaking to everyone here), I urge you to consider going off of vibe at first. You should know if a title inherently fits you just from the copy. If it doesn’t, recognize that a draw to that title may just be an exploration of those themes that will lead to something greater later.

We’ve seen this in action, people running Wanted Black and then realizing that Wanted: Dream Boy fits them better – and this has also happened in reverse. People using WDB and then realizing that WB is their vibe.

That isn’t wasted time. You’ve explored parts of your life, your mind, how you relate to romance and came closer to finding your own Zero Point. And this can be empirically tracked as well. So ultimately, with Zero Point Union, concepts like density and the such (while I know it appeals to the min / maxers here – who we appreciate) become less important – and what becomes more important is the journey itself, especially if one adopts the mentality that there are “no wasted opportunities” when choosing a title.

Rambled a bit, but:

1: Yes. That would fit what I was talking about. Complementary is fine. We’re trying to caution against kitchensink customs, trying to cover too much material at once. They will still work, but results will take longer to emerge.

  1. Emperor C&C and the adaptive scripting does alleviate this quite a bit, but I would still use caution as there’s only 2 titles with adaptive scripting, and while we are confident in how effective it is, we are still unsure of how it would perform if you make a kitchensink custom.

  2. Again – it’s about your ability to express this. If you’ve read the copy, reviews and experiences and are confident that fits you, go ahead. If not, test them in a Major Title stack first to see how it feels.

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I am stacking a 3 core custom alongside a second 3 core custom and its working like magic i do 6 mins of each every other day. Perhaps i am the exception to the rule LOL. I am not advising to do what i am doing though.

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So, it’s still not clear to me what the best way to run two titles is.

Option 1
Title 1 + Title 2 → Rest day → Repeat

Option 2
Title 1 → Rest day → Title 2 → Rest day → Repeat

Which one is better?

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Im a bit confused by the cores and custom thing myself tbh

Theres people running 2 customs with 3 cores in both but if you were to run 6 subliminals a day it woild be certain overload and definitly against the guidelines

Well, you’re an advanced user. Your objectives with running a title are clear. Titles that don’t match, you’ve openly stated that you’re just giving it a try, etc.

That depends on you. There’s no definitive answer, but remember what the instructions say – it is always okay to lower exposure as long as you are consistent. So, if you were to ask me:

Would be “better,” since there’s more resting in-between each loop. Gives the mind more time to breathe, process and integrate.

You’re overthinking it, man. We never said those customs wouldn’t work. This entire conversation is framed within the context of overexposure and recon management, and under that context, you want your stack as focused as possible. Is it possible for those individuals to get results from those customs? Yes, obviously. It’s not like these customs are suddenly rendered useless, they are just more difficult to run – theoretically. Some people can handle them, some can’t.

That’s why we are providing guidelines, a framework to work from that one can always return to, since we know it is safe. And those guidelines, that are guaranteed to generate results are in the instructions. If you follow them, can assure you that you’ll see results. And those guidelines are right here: Subliminal Club - Instruction Manual


4. Avoid “Kitchen Sink” Customs That Cover Too Much

One of the most common mistakes new users make is trying to address every area of life in a single custom—wealth, romance, confidence, healing, physical fitness, social skills, spirituality, and more. This creates several problems:

  • Diluted Focus: Your subconscious is processing too many different directives, slowing results in all areas
  • Conflicting Energy: Different goals may require different internal states or actions, creating internal conflict
  • Overwhelm: Too many simultaneous changes can trigger excessive reconciliation
  • Inefficiency: You’re essentially recreating major title functionality at higher cost

Remember: You Can Stack Your Custom With Major Titles

This is crucial to understand. Your custom doesn’t need to cover everything because you can run it alongside 1-2 major titles (for a maximum stack of 3 titles total). This means:

  • Your custom can focus on your unique, specific needs
  • Major titles can provide broad support in complementary areas
  • You get both precision (custom) and comprehensive coverage (major titles)

Example Stack:

  • Custom: Focused business custom (Mogul Core + 10 business modules)
  • Major Title 1: Emperor (for confidence and leadership foundation)
  • Major Title 2: Sanguine (for smooth processing and positive mindset)

This stack provides focused business improvement while still addressing confidence and emotional state—without trying to cram everything into the custom.

Don’t overthink this.

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Since reading the new listening instructions, my RAS is much more focused on small changes in my reality and I notice them daily (check my journal).


On another note, I realized that I, despite trusting your judgement, I feel limited by having to split my 3 sub stack on two listening days.
It’s probably still because of the old believe “The More, The Better”.
Intellectually I know that Integration and action is more important than exposure, but these beliefs are persistent.
And I think I’m not the only one struggling with this.
Maybe you could integrate something about this?

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My current customs are

LOTS/SpartanApex/Khan Black

Second custom is
WB/ASBR/BL

Both stacked together i found i get vitality and sexiness as well as intelligence

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You could also look at @TheGreenMan s journals. He uses multiple customs with multiple cores very successfully.
He’s an advanced user, having a solid base, knows what he does, takes action and doesn’t expect miracles. The subs are a precision tool for him.

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Any update to when we could possibly see Paragon: Health Protocol release?

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@SaintSovereign I’ve noticed this pattern within myself before. It’s like the belief that beliefs are somehow hard to change or some kind of thinking that you need to work extremely hard to break any belief, key word, any. An uphill battle.

@Parsifal You know that all you have to do is press the pause button at the 15, 30 sec, 1 minute mark instead of the 6 minute mark, or just run 1 sub every other day, yet you instead see that belief as all powerful over doing a simple thing, or a simple action.

I got tied up in the same thing myself a year or more ago. Actually it could have been GLM that cleared that. Anyway just pointing out that it’s a weird thing.

Not sure why I felt the need to point that out, just find it interesting that humans can do so many amazing things yet can feel powerless over a program in their own mind.

People believe in fate, some get to the end of their life and assume that was just what god gave them yet it’s the mental programs that got them the results in life. From the thing that makes sure you take your next breath.

Do we just live and get given a life or do you start living when you realise that you are the cause of it, not at the effect?

Maybe thats the one awakening that turns people into a main character so to speak.

Damn Vibes 4 hitting hard :rofl:

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So if someone’s stack is 2, running 1 title per listening day and rotating them this way should be a no brainer?

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Sounds like the Revelation of… Series will be in full ZPU territory then! Awesome.

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We about to get this baby by either today (Actually maybe not today since it’s Superbowl) or next Tuesday. If we going by the timeline of fates (Releases).

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orly?

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Soon.

EDIT: We will be back to answer questions soon, everyone. Very hard at work.

@GoldenTiger

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Not for me (yet), but the artwork is :fire: :fire: :fire:

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I’m going to need your address.

We got a fight for this bait.

1v1. I win: I get early access to Thunder mask. You win: I won’t post for a year. (I know you’ll miss me) :kissing:

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In case, people think I’m serious. I’m joking.

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Not bait. It’s about to get fun. :slight_smile:

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How I feel seeing this.

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Time to washout!

They’re still waiting for my private tester data as I use RICH Trader to win all of my Superbowl bets.

(obvious /s)

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