@AlexanderGraves If we are running a sub thats incongruent to who we are will that sub still work.?
@SaintSovereign since im running Ascension at the moment what is the biggest difference between Ascension and Chosen.? Based on what i gathered from Chosen it was to my understanding that those are things i would have received from Ascension.
Can you explain incongruence? How do we know if it’s it or reconciliation?
Here you go
On a scale of 1-10, it’s probably a 3.
Remember, with Zero Point, the scripts have a much more narrow focus. This is to increase results and lower recon. Think of your ZP stack as a “mini-custom” of sorts, with your actual custom covering the gaps that are missed in the mini-custom. Or, your stack is a “basic” build / easy-mode, and the custom is for the min-maxers who know exactly what they want and want to really drill in.
Chosen is very much focused on positive alpha leadership, which I think people are somehow associated with being less alpha than the “aggressive” ones. But again, ask the testers. They’ll tell you what it really feels like and the results they are getting. Imagine that feeling the Hebrews experienced when seeing Moses parting the Red Sea and delivering them to freedom.
Chosen, definitely. Also, Limitless will help with this.
We’re only building these titles once right now, and we need customer feedback to make the best versions we possibly can. Considering the fact that Ascension and Emperor are still the top selling, most used titles, we decided we should wait on them.
Im thinking of going with Regeneration ZP and Paragon ZP. Would using the Elixir Ultima still be beneficial along side Regeneration ZP?
Edit:
I mean like with the boostings effects of the Elixir on Regeneration.
Oof I just bought PS on Friday and I have the Ultima version. If guys do this, would I be able to refund PS and keep PS ZP since I have the ultima version?
Very excited with the upcoming upgrades, I plan to end my Dragon Reborn Journey (currently at stage 3) so I can replace it with the mighty Ascension too boost my two customs based on physical shift and attraction and the other one for art (artist + reinassance).
Thrilled to see and experience the new technology
December, 1?
I bought the non Ultima version, wonder what’s going to happen with both Iron Throne versions
Does Chosen affect work competency/capacity/productivity to back this up or is it purely in the social/influential/ alpha leadership domain? Although there is of course a relation in certain fields like management, sales, and leadership roles-I mean in the individual task/deliverable aspect?
I guess both be converted to just one ZP version.
I am going with emperor custom till sunday then washout before monday.
Then will do wanted zp and emperor custom
Best go for emperor as ascension is to weak. Its more for rookies and entry level users.
Yes I am currently running RICH ZP and CHOSEN ZP, and imma just let a message I received 2 days later speak for it:
And this is really just the tip of the iceberg.
Now reading the copy of Chosen I notice all of what’s mentioned even more.
You become that beacon of light.
Everyone asks me for guidance. Direction. How to survive and thrive in life.
(I run a self-help business, so that’s a given, but it 10x’d since chosen).
Absolutely. I fear nothing. And I mean that. Not even death. Doesnt mean I run headfirst in traffic. But I developed a sense for life that is along the lines of Carpe Diem. Seize the day. Make the most of it. Death will come anyway. It kills any sort of fear of societal things, people disagreeing, approach anxiety, everything.
Really the biggest change I noticed with chosen is the INSANE confidence and self-belief. But not in an assholish ego way. You’re just fine with everything. Nothing phases you. The true Oak-Tree.
Also, about the missing sexual edge? Bruh I am horny af. And I go after my needs!
Also also, Sage Immortal in the Preview? FML I might rethink my stack once again…
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So, now I am gonna read the 300 replies lol
So ZP is like being in the twilight zone?
so spooky
I cant wait to try this out
I was on the fence about Chosen but after reading that master piece all I can say is:
ZP products are not for the weak minded and those who like to waste time eating pizza slices in front of the TV wishing that Alessandra Ambrosio would knock on their door and drop her panties the moment she sees you. If you want to achieve things in the real world then ZP will make your wishes come true. They are powerful products not like those stupid youtube videos and all those garbage products you can buy from competitors. Claiming to give you super powers or amazing IQ.
AlexSQl, JCAST, Invictus have all got amazing results so the choice is yours. You can either watch netflix movies and eating pizzas for the rest of your life whilst playing with yourself or make your dream come true using ZP products.
THANK YOU for finally saying this.
As a masculinity guru myself, for the longest time I thought being the cold marble-man on Twitter is what masculinity is. Absolutely not.
It is giving from STRENGTH, it is…
wait, that’ll just derail the thread, so let’s not go into that topic.
I can, however, say, that chosen doesn’t make you feminine or anything like that. You also don’t become a bubble of love or gay (in the traditional sense).
It is POWERFUL leadership of STRENGTH, ACCEPTING people’s flaws, understanding them, and being interested in helping them.
I’d say things like Emperor are more focused on yourself. Building your own empire. Chosen is focused on building SOCIETY. RAISING other people on the tide you’re riding on. Excelling yourself, being a GUIDING light so others can follow suit.
If people consider that feminine? So be it. IDGAF 
I TRULY enjoy that feeling of positive leadership.
I think going forward you will have to explain a bunch of times that ZP is VERY focused. Not every alpha title will have sex scripting. You choose your desired alpha title and STACK WITH DIAMOND/PS/WANTED to get your sexual edge.
Saint also told us many times in the testing that the ZP scripting narrows the focus of the sub down a lot.
I guess this is also why the stacking test was so important.
But it makes for great combinations!
YES.
I ran Wanted for a month although it is ABSOLUTELY not my archetype. I am not the James Bond type of guy and I don’t want to be. I am the Primal guy. Being OPEN, EXPRESSIVE and DIRECT with what I want.
Wanted STILL manifested a TON of eyes on me, as well as sexual encounters with the wife, etc.
HOWEVER, from what I read it did work MUCH BETTER for @Invictus for example because it seems to be up his sleeve. His encounters were straight from Pornhub lol It read like it came from the Penthouse Magazine 
So it does still work, but if you truly find your archetype, I think it works EVEN BETTER.
On the incongruence itself. It is less than on QV2. Yes, the close people around me had a bit of “getting used to” but not very much tbh. Maybe a day. If so. And it wasn’t as pronounced as it was on QV2 Khan for example, where my wife was literally pissed for a week.
CHOSEN seems just perfect for your work and life, @AlexanderGraves since you coach a lot of men.