Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 1)

not extensively, because some of the traits seem a bit contradicting, which is why I was wondering if anyone knew about a character that fit both, Don Draper is what I thought would be the type to fit the mixed archetype, but the more time i spend with Chosen, the more I realize that he’s more befitting of Emperor or something.

some traits also seem like they would go against each other (in my opinion), such as;

Chosen’s humility vs. Wanted’s cockiness
Chosen’s affection/deep connections vs. Wanted’s coldness
Chosen’s inspirational side vs. Wanted’s mysterious side

which is why after my washout is done, I’m going to either try controlling WZP consciously and forcing it to only improve my physical attributes, while keeping Chosen for the archetype,
or,
I will use them alternatively instead of the same day :thinking:

unless Saint decides to drop a pure physical shifting sub, cough HERO cough, then that’s the one I’d pair with Chosen.

Edit: so, it seems like I found an anime character that fits the complex archetype of being humbly cocky, Gojo Satoru from JuJutsu Kaisen :partying_face:

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That’s basically the Philosopher-King archetype.

Paul Atreides, ‘Muad’dib’, is one of my favorites, and current now (with the recent Dune remake).

I haven’t read the book in many years, but I remember that there was a quote in it that addressed this directly. I’ll see if I can find it.

On the shadow/negative side, you’ve also got the cult leader or the manipulative and predatory but publicly contrite and philanthropic politician type. please don’t be those guys.

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Here it is. Each chapter starts out with an invented quote from a fictional history book, memoir, or scholarly text. (Frank Herbert was pretty incredible.). This is the quote I was thinking of:

Greatness is a transitory experience. It is never consistent. It depends in part upon the myth-making imagination of humankind. The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in. He must reflect what is projected upon him. And he must have a strong sense of the sardonic. This is what uncouples him from belief in his own pretensions. The sardonic is all that permits him to move within himself. Without this quality, even occasional greatness will destroy a man.
-from “Collected Sayings of Muad’Dib” by the Princess Irulan

in short: don’t believe your own BS. (but don’t reject it either.)

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How awesome would it be if SubClub made an Infomercial about their products like this Subliminal Infomercial from the 1980s? :slightly_smiling_face:

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As cool an idea as that is, wrong thread :wink:

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I hope rich crypto ZP gets released

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My main point was to NOT limit him to the ZP options, and also to not push him on to new tech. RegZP may be having issues that still need fixing. It is a prelaunch beta. Why take unnecessary chances?

That said, in previous versions, I found RG’s effects to have more emotional ups & downs, than Rb or DR. While LD and Sg have been used by many specifically to eradicate anger. So, I tend to prefer those over RG.

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There is no point in making conclusions out of individual listenings.
First 1-2 weeks, a user may simply be adjusting to the subliminal tech.

Let’s talk after he has consistently played a title for at least 3 weeks.

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thanks, you are right. I wouldn’t want him to get in an emotional bad state that might occur with RG. I will recommend him the titles you suggested.

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Don Draper is like … the quintessential example of Emperor.

:joy:


Here’s a little Conscious Reconciliation exercise for you:

Step 1: Turn these opposing traits into “I want” / “I also want” affirmations. Like…
:arrow_right: “I want the humility of a respected leader.”
:arrow_right: “I also want the cockiness of an attractive rake.”
Use your own words. You should really feel the Want.

Step 2: Repeat these affirmations one after the other, while taking a deep breath between each rep.
(1 set = 2 affirmations) :stuck_out_tongue:
… If you find it beneficial, close your eyes while doing this.
… If you find it hard to focus, hold the first Want in your left hand, and the other in your right hand.

Auto Step 2.5: As you do this, your mind will reconcile both Wants, and immediately start sending you ideas/intuition/actionables/etc. of how YOU may combine & express both sides.

Step 3: Write each idea down as soon as you get it. Don’t try to remember them.
Continue until there are no more new thoughts, and you feel complete.
You should have between 3-10 authentic/personalized pointers. :+1:t2:

Repeat the process with the next Conflicting desire/trait/goal/fear/concern.

:wink:


PS: Consider this to be an addendum to Simon’s Instructions.

:sunglasses:

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So basically “act on your cockiness, but stay humble inside:thinking:

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You are a good story teller!!

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Wow man, this is just wow.

I shall do this, do a study on the philosopher-king archetype, and rewatch the anime I mentioned to see how much I “feel” the character now (the time I watched it was before WANTED was around, so different perspective now).

I also had a dream where I saw my ex, she was acting like a total “low-value toy” (trying my best not to say certain words :rofl:), and was being passed around.
She told me that I used to limit her from being this way and she still craves me, yet can’t be with me because she loves the attention and feeling wanted by so many guys, and the freedom she has now is priceless.
When I woke up and thought about it all, I realized that it’s actually a confirmation about the fact that I’m not using WZP for the attention at all, and that the “freedom” she was showing me and boasting about, isn’t something I even remotely care about having (also why I declined the offers of threesomes and the hall pass).

I’ve mentioned this before to Saint and I’ll say it here again, to me, recognition is far more valuable than attraction.

Edit: on a sidenote, I feel as if there’s a difference between the ALZP sub and the public preview Chosen, but not in a “completely different sub” way, but more like the public version feels like it has a couple of things added to it, which feels like it might be the reason I’m not finding my sweet spot with both :thinking:
Because if you see my journal from before the public preview started, I was using WZP and ALZP (both experimental) and was doing great with that “complex” archetype :thinking:
@SaintSovereign can you confirm if there’s a difference between them?

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Just had some same day interviews today for a job I was headhunted for (both female) and looks like they gave me the position so looks like I’m starting a new role!

Think Wanted and Chosen had a hand to play in it methinks :wink:

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Be careful with that office seduction politics :joy: you don’t want some girls mad after you because you refuse her advances or something.

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Nah, we made this one (with a quarter million views) :wink:

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That’s a good voice for the ad. Reminds me of the epic movie trailer voice guy. That would sound amazing! :rofl:

Very coooool :star_struck:

If you ever remake one
Take your time bro ahahahaha
It felt like medical disclaimers right after a pill add with the speed of info :joy:
I must be some old ass soul in a young body

I’d enjoy a nice seating during a a min and half understanding what I’m going for lol

Was it ever on air or just YT ?

YouTube. That’s why it was only 36 seconds. Ya’ll don’t watch YouTube ads, especially longer ones. :stuck_out_tongue:

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And honestly, we haven’t even tried to air it. In fact, the swipes at us you hear from competitors about us being “all marketing” is nonsense. We spend less than $1500 on marketing each month, lol. They just really suck at promoting their products. What they’re actually complaining about is our nicer website and product boxes. Heaven forbid we actually want our customers to have a NICE purchasing experience.

We haven’t made a marketing push because we want to keep the company small and niche until the technology is developed. We already have a ton of “hype haters” showing up to disrupt things – can you imagine what this forum would be like if we put a commercial on Hulu?

Let’s just keep things small for now. Make sure everyone’s getting incredible results, then we can look at that kind of expansion.

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