That’s excellent
Are you referring to Primal Seduction ZP when you say Seduction ZP and Primal ZP?
yes im talking about the same product.
primal seduction ZP
Bruh today I was ripped of the fun things I previously had with ZP night listening,
No zp dream related noooooooo 
and no super heavy meat morning noooooo (But the thing was up all night instead 
)
I must go to 12 loops before sleeping now bros…
I gotta
of course I’m not serious, but I really thought I’d be having those types of dreams for a longer period of time, would that indicate some kind of assimilation of the sub ?
Like what happened to the testers ZP dreams ? Because it’s only my 4 loops of both Diamond and wanted
Man so hard to not listen on rest days, I’m so used to the 5on 2off X)
Give me your strength of will for I stick to the recommandation, I won’t crack, I won’t !
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Once your mind gets used to the subliminals, your dreams aren’t that vivid anymore. That’s a good thing. You might get vivid dreams again but it will be random.
Whether it was Qv2 or ZP (or any other build), it’s the same thing. When you change your stack or build, you get vivid dreams in the beginning. Later that wears off. At least, that’s my experience
Haha you will get used to it. It’s just a new habit, that’s all.
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Ok good to know ! Might try to listen to it 2 hours before sleeping and if still no dreams, well as it was my reasons why, I might try again listening in the morning instead of the night, and then after 1-2 listening try again at night to see if dreams come back.
Just to see as experimentation but still in the recommandation 
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Chosen and Ascension would seem to be a powerful duo, and I plan to run them together one of these days 
even without Ascension ZP if necessary.
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Ahhhhhhh, my eyes it burns. Why use the white layout. The dark is so much easier on the eyes
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Haha! I have the same reaction too when I see white pics on dark theme
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isnt chosen based on ascension or something like this?
just like how Emperor and Khan i think are extensions of Ascension with a much wide view
dont you think it will unnecessary to stack them together ?
I guess Chosen is written from scratch. I can be wrong but I can’t read every post on forum 
life takes me.
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Naw, it was written completely from scratch.
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Same, regardless of recon I get the results.
PLEASE GUYS DO NOT USE THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO OVEREXPOSE.
I DID overexpose myself and as Saint mentioned multiple times, it’s NOT pleasant on ZP lol
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I could have used that 7138 posts ago.
Mandatory disclaimer: Just kidding. 
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Yeah, I altered the recommended pattern running two loops of Wanted on one day and it was fine although I felt overexposed. I tried the same with Limitless yesterday (two loops) and I got unpleasant recon. Tomorrow I’ll be running my subs (Wanted and Limitless) in accordance with the recommended protocol for the first time since I started experimenting with different patterns during the ZP test. I’ve tried many routines getting overexposed doing so. I DON’T RECOMMEND THAT. The recommended patterns have worked best for me so far.
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I must have much lower morals than Saint&Fire, I would so obviously put a sub message to stick to the guidelines in the ZP text.
Once you’ve gone against the recommendations encountering recon and diminished results you don’t need any other motivation. In my case, I underestimated ZP once again since getting glorious results after listening to a 15-minute track is just unbelievable yet that’s our new reality, here, in our SC.
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Another Zero Point Result
My primary, flagship custom is called Naissance. One of its three cores is Quantum Limitless stage 4 (stage 4 itself is also called Quantum Limitless).
For a variety of reasons, I have not listened to Naissance since Thursday 9 September 2021 (due to a mixture of Zero Point trial, focusing on Dragon Reborn, etc.), yet I am experiencing significant Quantum Limitless manifestations today.
I am being drawn to information and attracting information that feels deeply and magnetically compelling, relevant, and interesting. I am feeling motivated, inspired, and enlivened by delving into this learning. I’m remembering that, years ago, I used to feel this way about some of the ideas that I was discovering and learning. And I’m observing how long it’s been since I last experienced this.
All of the above feel like clear manifestations of Quantum Limitless. A program which I have not played in exactly 3 months.
Zero Point
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What are you running right now?
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Right now:
Dragon Blood (Dragon Reborn St. 2)
Paragon Complete Custom Ultima
Chosen ZP
Plan to keep this stack at least through the end of December.
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What? Minimal… So, it doesn’t transform you on Biggus Dickus? I will call that a nice enhancement.
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