I’m finding that ZP always takes a few hours to “kick in”. So, if I listen in the morning is not until the afternoon or evening that I notice the effect on my mood.
It is harder the judge now because I’ve been feeling it working since the first time I ran it, but still noticeable.
Like others have pointed out, it also requires that I get more sleep and makes me crave water and sweets. I’m drinking plenty of water, but I watch my diet really closely so I don’t give in every time when it comes to sweets. So far results have been fenomenal.
I usually do not go out on Mondays but i wanted to see if i saw results from ZP after 1 loop.
yesterday i did 1 loop of diamond ZP then 1 loop of primal seduction ZP. back to back as recommended when i asked here.
The results tonight where definitely not as good as primal seduction ultima.
girls tonight reacted to me like “oh that guy is hot”
when i use primal ultima girls react like “i want that guy to fuck the shiet out of me”
there is a really strong sexual tension that i never seen before that primal seduction ultima creates.
That sexual intensity was nowhere to be seen tonight.
Obviously its only been 1 loop so not a big deal.,
I’m going to give it a shot for 1 week.
ill follow the instructions which mean i will listen again today then Thursday and then Saturday,
so by the time i go clubbing this weekend i will have had 3-4 loops. if by the end of this weekend i do not see an obvious benefit compared to ultima then next week im going to go back to to ultima.
I’ve made a final decision that it would be illogical to spend 3 weeks on this but im willing to give it a week to see if its better then ultima.
You need to run at least two loops do not stack the ZP as this will diffuse the results.
Perhaps one day run two loops of primal ZP then have a rest day then run 2 loops of diamond the following day. As Saint as said please adhere to the protocol.
Reminds me of a story a teacher told me. It’s about a woman that has accomplished massive success and wealth in her life but it didn’t make her happy. So she goes to a monastery to learn about enlightenment and what makes happiness.
After some months she gets increasingly frustrated because nothing happened. Other people’s presence start bugging her, even the teacher bugs her. So she goes to the teacher, who tells her to stay at a little house up the hill just outside the monastery. She can meditate in peace there.
One day she’s walking down the hill to the monastery when she sees an old man carrying a bundle of sticks walking up the hill. She’s been told that people meet this person when they are about to become enlightened. So she stops the man and asks him: “How do I become enlightened?”
The man doesn’t say a word but drops the bundle of sticks to the ground. The woman realizes that enlightenment is to release all burdens and attachments. It makes sense. So she asks: “And what then? What comes after enlightenment?”
The man bends over, picks up the sticks one by one, smiles and proceeds up the hill. The woman realizes that even though enlightenment is the ability to release everything, she still lives in the physical world, and she still has responsibilities and duties. The ability to find enlightenment is to be able to close her eyes and temporarily let go of it all, to find that inner peace at least once a day.
Of course, the key being that if the spiritualists are correct in that we have the ability to leave the physical behind, we also leave its burdens behind. But as long as we’re here, we should find balance between carrying our burdens and responsibilities and letting go of them.
One crucial lesson here also is to never take on more than is necessary. Some people feel responsible for everything that’s going on in the entire world, Atlas carrying the world, even though 90% of it they have little to no control over. They’re trying to push an immovable object and all it does is mentally and emotionally exhaust them.
Other people fill their space with stuff they will never use or need. All that also has a spot in their minds. As long as it is part of their life, their mind reserves a spot for it. I can tell you from experience how liberating that Zen minimalism is. From keeping your house clean to even things like your email Inbox (massive productivity booster). So much which simply serves no purpose but still takes up background resources in your mind because it exists. Leaving less resources for more important things.
When it comes to money, there are also people hoarding it, having money for the sake of money. Which of course banks hate because the monetary economy is a system of debt, money needs to flow for it to work. If everybody paid off everything they owe, the whole economy would instantly collapse. But thanks to the idea of interest (non-existing money) that is impossible without rendering the vast majority of people bankrupt.
This in stark contrast to people I’ve met that live in genuine financial abundance. They never save money, they never care how much they have. But somehow whenever they need money for something, it automagically falls into their lap. No matter their age, gender, education or career choices.
It’s very difficult to let go of the idea that you need to save up for the future when you’ll have no income, because the fear of the consequences forms very strong roots. And yet these people don’t have a care in the world and they always financially seem to land on their feet. That, I suppose, is the key to manifesting financial abundance. Knowing with total certainty that it doesn’t matter how much you have or where it comes from, it’ll be there whenever you need it. It may not even be money, but instead be whatever you want to buy with it. Takes out the middleman.
This was another DarkPhilosopher essay brought to you by SubClub.
April 2020. Yup, I think that’s when I asked Saint for Blue OG @ Terminus strength.
Exactly, this may be a better way to describe it. When you do this, you’re not even surprised when it happens because at that point it makes total sense for it to happen. Anything else would be the surprise.
Did you have these results from the Ultima in 1 loop when you first started? Maybe this was the case, since that was the purpose of Ultima, immediate results, yet less profound.
Maybe with ZP this is taking longer by design, since the changes go deeper.
Also:
This tells me that your experience is probably not completely representative. I’ll suggest trying in the days you typically go out, so that you compare apples to apples. Let us know how that goes!
i had a very odd journey with primal seduction ultima.
i bought it very closely to when i bought libertine.
and at first did not see much from primal seduction ultima and libertine pretty much worked right away so i was using only libertine for months and primal seduction just sitting on my phone unused.
then in last 3-5 weeks at some point i randomly tested primal seduction again and i remember specifically i significantly increased the volume from 20% of max volume to 40% and now im up to 50% and suddenly i was attracting super hot women with a sexual intensity i have never seen in my life.
im not a 100% sure why suddenly its working so well but my best guess is that its related to how i have not masturbated for like 5-6 weeks right now. and i also think significantly increasing the volume helped. those are the 2 factors why i think primal seduction ultima has been so good for me in last 4-5 weeks compared to when i first bought it did not see much.
For me, a lot of the things that I used to fear the most happened last and this year. I was so tired of my ways that I just let go of all, and I sat for 3 months just watching.
I quit my job, I became broke, I lost my apartment, I lost friends and no one understood me. But darn, was it freeing, the day I left my apartment I felt like I was 5 years old, I was jumping and brimming with energy.
What i need to do now, is to start picking up all the sticks on the ground and start walking again
