Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 1)

I would have thought the Paradox games like Hearts of Iron or Europa Universalis would be good challenges for the brain.

Me neither but it was ZP that put my whole reality to the test. :heart_eyes:

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I’ve been playing Duel Links for years :grin::fire:

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That game is dope for sure now i may just download it myself just because you resurfaced it to my memory😅

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I experienced the same thing some time ago when I started running Sage, although bloom from Wanted and other subs could have also been a contributing factor. With that willingness to speak your mind rather than being liked the labels and finger pointing are going to be a fact of life, but your reaction to the drama is what is really important beyond the opinions of others. I don’t think some people appreciate the degree to which this non people pleasing, self and purpose driven state of consciousness generated by some of the subs effects the way they communicate with the world. I lost all desire to argue with haters or people that don’t get my point of view, even to the point where speaking out or not speaking out can be a strategic decision.

I am looking forward to the public testing for a different reason. QV1 focused more on healing in the primer, Qv2 on external manifestation of results, ZP is a more geocentric or anthropocentric point of view and internally focused. For those of us who have a very rich inner life such as those with higher functioning/ASD, the greater focus on the internal realm which can be remarkably resistant to change of routines etc is likely to be a game changer. Having both internally and externally focused versions of the subs will give more control over the process of change particularly for those who tend to have a strong distinction between the two domains.

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“Yes, it is absolutely inevitable. It can’t be otherwise. A buddha is bound to be misunderstood. If a buddha is not misunderstood then he is not a buddha at all…” -Osho (who is definitely controversial even after his death)

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Every so often, I bookmark a post, because it’s so inspirational. Welcome to the club, I’ve just bookmarked your post for future inspirational reading. Perhaps some day I’ll be able to write something like your post.
Running away from girls, really tickled me silly… I loved it! You know who does that? Famous rock stars running from groupies…LOL

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You and @GoldenTiger ain’t really bout bout it, though.

Don’t make me de-rust my Red Eyes deck :eyes:

Edit: welp. Can’t figure out my login, so I’m gonna have to start from the beginning again :man_shrugging:t4: that’s what i get for talking smack lmao

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@Sage Im not sure Red Eyes would have taken down my Red Nova Resonators Deck either way!:sweat_smile:

Edit: karma got both of us i lost all my info when my last device i played on broke on me :pensive:

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On another note im pretty sure @SaintSovereign broke an all time record today on the amount of posts he replied to today. Im loving his recently more frequent involvement🙂

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Short of being born into wealth, marrying into it or somehow winning the lottery, usually the self-made wealthy would have good leadership skills to some extent.

After all, being wealthy at the highest levels requires you to have the ability to manage capital in order to grow and protect your wealth.

Capital in this case may refer to human labour, systems, organizations, institutions, social capital or financial capital (aka money). You will need to be have real leadership in order to shape the capital inputs into outputs.

That’s also a reason why many celebrities and sportspeople cannot sustain their wealth as they don’t have any capital management skills.

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Yeah, @King your post made me curious to eventually developp this leadership, it’s an area I need to developp! I’m very charismatic so I can influence people and all, but in a groupe of people with 3-4 people or more, there I can see my leadership skills lack.

@Sage_Ninjistic My deck aren’t the best, but I can definitly reach DLV20 in every KCup event :kissing_smiling_eyes:

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I’m only going to say this one last time.

If you don’t like the “hype,” go elsewhere. We are not going to refrain from promoting our new technology and hurting our business because a small group of whiners don’t like marketing. Again, I didn’t even “hype” Zero Point, I posted real experiences from real testers and attached a silly song lyric or quip with the post, nor did @Fire or myself intervene with any of the testing. For the most part, we stayed silent / invisible and let the testers do their thing, while we sat and watched. If you don’t believe me, ask them yourself. They’ll confirm. Again, I also didn’t post many of the more over the top experiences for the same reason – to manage expectations.

The testers are here themselves confirming everything I said. Multiple testers have confirmed that I haven’t “overhyped” anything, and that their experiences completely line up with what I have posted and said about Zero Point.

The notion that we shouldn’t celebrate what’s clearly about to be a revolution in subliminal technology because it’s “hyping” and “means the old technology didn’t work” is absolutely absurd, intellectually dishonest and little more than a strategic attack against this company, the community and the hard work we’ve all put into it. This testing cohort was phenomenal, providing some the best feedback we’ve ever received. They went through hell for Zero Point, especially when testing the early QZP versions, since we had to figure out how to successfully blend Qv2 and Zero Point.

We are not going to allow this momentous moment to be overshadowed by the real haters – people who just showed up out of nowhere and started whining about “hype” and ignoring everything the people involved are saying, including the neutral testers who have been given carte blanche to talk about Zero Point, good OR bad. Here’s the exact message that was sent out today, and again, the testers can confirm:

Note, I said GOOD or BAD, because we always tell the truth to our customers. There are a few individuals who didn’t get outstanding results, and they are more than welcome to share their experiences.

So, that being said, I’m going to do something that I rarely do. I’m about to go full on authoritarian. If you have not been participating in this community for the past few months, I am not interested AT ALL in hearing about your criticisms about “hype” or anything else related to Zero Point. You will be temporarily banned, depending on what you said. You may patronize another company, go complain or whatever you want to do. However, this rash of negative individuals (who are the real haters), who haven’t said a word during Zero Point testing, and now suddenly deciding to complain is going to stop.

No more warnings, no more explanations, just a ban.

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Well spoken.
Im member for more than 2 years
Im no here for discount or promoting Subclub.( not yet any ascendant ,arch title because I dont post often)
Im here because Subclub giving me edge I need to survive this world with sanity.

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@SaintSovereign - absolutely agree. As much as it is understandable for new users to ask about how to run their newly purchased subliminals, it doesn’t make sense to start being an authority on the matter just cause.

And it is normal and more beneficial to trust people who were around longer and who are honest about their experiences from their stacks and journals.

A written proof of their journey provides context, authority and ability to demonstrate their commitment to themselves. And we can understand where they are coming from if they have any criticism.

But this is what I have learnt over time. There are certain people who relish putting others down. They offer no praise when deserved and don’t know how to provide constructive criticism. They only want to talk about what they believe in as opposed to coming at things with an open mind and trying things out for themselves.

Only those who have tried the subliminals over here know how far the technology has grown by leaps and bounds.

SaintSovereign and Fire discovered the Zero Point tech by a strange mix of fortunate events and preparedness. It landed on their laps yes but I am sure if it did the same on others, they wouldn’t be able to use it.

But what was done was to not only create a way of writing the subliminals in ZP format but ALSO add Quintessance to it.

While competitors are making their customers run their titles for 8 hours a day following a tortuous and non-stackable schedule, here we are running 3 titles for a total of 45 minutes.

And you tell me not to get hyped? GTFO!

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you can either agree or disagree I dont care

I Bought Emperor v2. after 3 days I stoped listening sub (It was to cold and strong) so
I Bought brand new Khan ‘New Dawn’ and I liked it (Healing and status was excelent)
after that Stark Q ( become my favourite sub )
today I appreciate and like Wanted (I Listen Wanted for 2 months )but I have no same experience like before with Stark

always new tech and new sub toogether hit me hard
so guys choose wisely
start ZP with what you want most in your life.

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I was one of the testers and taking into account all the results I was getting during the test I confirm that Sain and Fire have all the right to celebrate the great success that developing ZP is and trying to deprive them of that right is not only the copycats’ disgusting and lousy sabotage but it’s also just immensely unjust and highly unethical as well since developing ZP Subliminal Club has contributed to the potential advancement of humankind a lot and I’m confident that they will keep doing so Until the End of Time…

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I think that’s the bigger picture. The old guard of suppressing humankind and getting ahead by stepping on others is coming to an end. Would we expect anything less than them to put up their last fight to maintain their ever loosening grip?

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Its your choice fight or turn away. World gives you everything, you just have to stand up from sofa and reach or fight for it.

In my country is proverb ‘’ Dying horse kicking most’’

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