When you’ve finally found your sweet spot on the new tech after stonewalling hard and going under heavy recon during your washout:
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jesus christ, i just noticed the fatigue so hard yet its so tricky
its like you dont want to do anything cause ur super tired but when you push just a little bit it immediately goes away
im on my 2nd rest day and its hitting
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Devote two more days to processing the subs (no listening whatsoever) and you shall hit the bottom and then it’s going to be only better and better, it’s going to be your washout. For now be ready for this:
i wonder if i should do that or just start the subs again overnight with 2 loops only
no more
i used to do 4 loops a day 5 loops i think thats why this week has been a bit fatiguing i shouldve gone for 1 loop a day or 2 loop a day instead i went ham
For now keep washing out and then start slowly. And then one loop of a Q program every other day. If you use Ultima run the Ultima in the morning and the Q in the evening and then one day for processing.
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Guys lets just put our faith in SC. As myself and my good friend Pacmam and Voytek have repeated rest days rest days rinse repeat.
Dont try and be a clever clogs. Or say my brain is different therefore this means i can do more loops sorry to burst your bubble but your brain is no different.
I have sailed the 7 seas, been through the storms ended up on desert islands its no fun. Asked bruv Saint if you dont believe me.
Listen to what Bruv Saint has to say !!. We dont have time for egos or mommy boys to complain about their petty problems “Saint it dont work nag nag nag”
Peace Black Adder
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Agree. Just listen to the recommendations of people who have been saying it across the board.
We’ve been testing the tech and clearly an extra rest day or two is necessary.
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I am blown away by this…you just put them all in there- and it’s working-that’s freaking awesome.
For the record. you can use Paragon Ultima Core in QV2 format as well
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I think T2 was experimental i had a build based on T2 which worked for a week until i hit the wall and became depressed and bored of life. Its probably more powerful then Q2 but lacks the “intelligence” of Q2.
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Some of us are as crazy as The A-Team when it comes to experimenting with loops. 
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That’s right, we need more processing days, gentlemen. It’s not about taking a rest and being idle, our minds work very intensively during processing time. Join us on processing days today! 
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so from what i gathered so far, if im doing a stack of 2 subs and one ultima then this routine should be good:
sub 1; sun-tue-thur
sub 2; mon-wed
ultima; any 2-3 days
rest days; fri and sat
is that good?
How long have you been using that routine?
I’ve a stack comprised of two Q and one Ultima and my current routine is:
Day 1: Alchemist and Rebirth one loop each (the longer break between the loops the better)
Day 2: Off
Day 3: Emperor and Rebirth one loop each
Day 4: Off
Day 5: Alchemist and Rebirth one loop each
Day 6 and 7: Off
Day 8: Emperor and Rebirth one loop each
Day 9: Off
Day 10: Alchemist and Rebirth one loop each
Day 11: Off
Day 12: Emperor and Rebirth one loop each
Day 13 and 14: Off
REPEAT
I don’t think I’ll cut down on the loops even more but I don’t exclude that possibility since Emperor is a little beast (5 programs in one).
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I haven’t been doing that routine, I was just asking about it haha
My current routine is:
5 days of EF st3 on Sat, sun, Mon, wed and Thurs (those are my gym days with tue and Friday rest days)
And then I use wanted every other day except Friday and Tuesdays as I like to keep those 2 days free of both physical and mental work, If u get what I mean.
And recently got Rich Ultima which I played once for the last two days, but still trying to figure out a proper routine for the program
I see. How long have you been using that routine and what are your results? Any stonewalling or recon? If no recon or stonewalling and your results are good there’s no need to change anything.
Here I listed the symptoms of stonewalling, recon and overexposure I experience. Still I got some insignificant results when stonewalling or good results after overcoming recon:
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does anyone know what im going through?
i just took a 1 hour nap and when i put the alarm, and it went on to wake me up i felt this huge thing to not wake up and sleep its like you wanna sleep more, then i slept more i woke up an hour after then i looked at the time and it turns out i slept for 3 hours, and if i didnt force myself i wouldve even slept more and more
what is this called? is this rec? or am i stonewalling? or its just normal for someone who just got into subliminals? (im on rest day ) or is it overload or overexposure?
now i feel slightly better but when i just wake up it feels like hell like you can sleep forever, but it takes time to go away , then it goes
also @Meng123 i think i saw @SaintSovereign say something similar to what i said can you link quote that?
(even though i slept for 8 hours the night before which is a lot i usually sleep 6 hours or 5 and its enough)
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well I’ve only added EF and RICH this week so can’t say much about those two, however I’ve been listening to wanted on a 2 days on 1 off basis and generally I’ve been getting really good results, also adding in EF with Wanted and gyms being open this week seemed like working out + WANTED + adding EF has somehow blew me up somewhat within the week, even people who regularly meet me think something’s off because my body suddenly seems bigger in a few days, but I guess muscle memory is in the play here too.
i have had recon here and there at times and I end up taking an extra day off, but now I feel like I’ve gotten more accustomed to wanted’s usage, a lot of people realize that it uses a lot of energy and I figured that extra calories and some caffeine really helps with Wanted’s recon, as it is more energy based recon, in fact I haven’t had any of those symptoms this week at all since I started my bulking diet, so I guess the extra calories are helping.
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what subs do you listen to again?
Limit destroyer ultima v2 and starkqv2 but ive been running LDU for the past 4 days then i bought stark the 5th day and played it twice
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lmao dude you actually saved me I’m taking longer breaks
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