Main Disc. Thread - Primal Romance

[SaintSovereign]

@AlexanderGraves

Because, while it opened up A LOT of things in my marriage, it also made me have a tough realization:
I was the narcissist and gaslighter for many years.

I have a personal concept that I live by, one that helps drive a lot of my conscious inner work: the moment you can admit to yourself that you are flawed in some way, thus bringing it to surface so that you can consciously work on it, you become a hero.

The fact that you can admit this to yourself – and definitely since you can admit publicly, in front of people – makes you a hero in my eyes. Think of it like this, every interaction you have in the future that was linked to this issue will be more positive, and you’ll have more wisdom to help others who dealt with the same thing.

And even more important, a cycle has been broken. You see, Sim- I mean, @AlexanderGraves , it’s the circle of life and it moves us all through despair and hope, through faith and love, until we find our place on the path unwinding… it’s the circle of life.

[SaintSovereign]

@Parsifal

@SaintSovereign Now with PR, which one is being better to bring a crisis in a relationship to a good end?

Definitely PR.

[Jouissance]

Primal Romance is the better fit

[Parsifal]

@Invictus

Burkinis are so 2015 man, no one except hijabi wear those, and those women don’t go to these type of beaches where alcohol is served.

Come and visit Germany if you wanna see some burkinis. From swimming lessons in elementary school to open air baths. Here you can find them still.

[Viktor]

@SaintSovereign

the moment you can admit to yourself that you are flawed in some way, thus bringing it to surface so that you can consciously work on it, you become a hero.

Is this a hint for the next HERO title?

Rofl

[SaintSovereign]

Nah. Despite the Lion King humor, that’s legit my personal philosophy, lol. The HERO project has not been abandoned – it still may be my personal magnum opus. HERO Origins was just the first.

[SoulFire]

Who is @SaintSovereign? Do you guys have a 'about page 'on here somewhere?
Who Is @Fire ?

Any chance to get a picture of you guys to get a better idea of who is actually building these awesome healing products?

[Fire]

@SoulFire

Who is @SaintSovereign? Do you guys have a 'about page 'on here somewhere?
Who Is @Fire ?

Any chance to get a picture of you guys to get a better idea of who is actually building these awesome healing products?

Having pictures of us is unlikely to affect or change anything in ones life - other than potentially make people want to follow us even more strongly.

And we… don’t want that.

We don’t want to be people’s gurus, leaders, influencers or anything of the sort. We don’t want people to fantasize or dream about meeting us - we’re just two smart individuals who want to make dope products.

And we want people to measure us by the work we do, the products we release and the changes in your life. If your life is changing for the better - that is the best measurer of who we are.

[AlexanderGraves]

@SaintSovereign

I have a personal concept that I live by, one that helps drive a lot of my conscious inner work: the moment you can admit to yourself that you are flawed in some way, thus bringing it to surface so that you can consciously work on it, you become a hero

Why thank you!

While I currently can’t see myself as the hero there I know what you mean. It was a tough realization but it’s crystal clear now.
I was a literal monster for years.
The things I did. I’m honestly amazed she stayed with me.

Now I also know why Jesus appeared in my dream:
„I didn’t come here for the righteous. I came here for the sinners to repent.“

Funny thing is, I went online searching for „what if I am the narcissist?“
But nothing.

Nobody seems to write from the perspective of the bad guy who realized. So maybe this is what I can give to the world now lol

[Jouissance]

Ask ChatGPT

[AlexanderGraves]

I prefer Grok but yes. It’s my new go to tool

[Melody]

Maybe it’s not that you’re a narcissist, but maybe it’s really that you blamed your wife for all the problems in the relationship to deflect attention away from the problems you’ve brought too. And as long as you can realise what you need to do to make it better and take action, then really truly you both will be okay now! Much love

[Sub.Zero]

@SaintSovereign

@AlexanderGraves

Because, while it opened up A LOT of things in my marriage, it also made me have a tough realization:

I was the narcissist and gaslighter for many years.

I have a personal concept that I live by, one that helps drive a lot of my conscious inner work: the moment you can admit to yourself that you are flawed in some way, thus bringing it to surface so that you can consciously work on it, you become a hero.

I’ve seen the scripting bringing to the surface (from the subconscious to the conscious mind) characteristics or issues of mine that were “opposite” to it, and that alone was enough to reconcile them. Although, it may be that those “revelations” were an effect or a symptom of the reconciliation, meaning that the shift towards the scripting had been made already.

Those revelations usually occur when I’m actively introspecting or retrospecting, or upon relevant experiences.

Now, I’m not saying that your revelations made a total shift in you towards the scripting, regarding the characteristics/issues you mentioned, but they definitely initiated reconciliation towards it and introspection/retrospection and relevant experiences will propel it. I think that’s obvious to you, however. I’m just sharing, as always.

[Sub.Zero]

@AlexanderGraves

So, yes. PR to heal.

I’m running PR just because I’m on a holiday, visiting my wife, and I wanted to improve that time for us. However, the amount of healing in terms of connecting with myself emotionally and opening up to people is incredible. PR is working on restoring what got devastated in me due to my traumatic life. No other program did that for me. Not even DR ZPv1 or LBFH.

That’s the reason why I consider running it for a longer time, not just until the end of my holiday, in two days.

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@AlexanderGraves

Funny thing is, I went online searching for „what if I am the narcissist?“
But nothing.

Nobody seems to write from the perspective of the bad guy who realized. So maybe this is what I can give to the world now lol

Perhaps, a book "I was a narcissist ".

[Jouissance]

@Sub.Zero

However, the amount of healing in terms of connecting with myself emotionally and opening up to people is incredible

This is why I think PR before HS makes sense.

I know Saint advises the reverse but I feel strongly about it.

I’m connecting more vulnerably and authnetically with EVERYONE, not just romantic partners.

That gives me abundance in my life to manifest the right partner, not just the first partner that is willing.

It gives me a greater support network. Part of me healing what I needed to heal in my relationship while listening to PR was opening up to close friends, and even distant friends, to get an outside perspective. They rarely “helped” by giving advice. They helped because they let me think and be heard.

In the narrow perspective of “fastest way to find a partner” then yeah HS → PS makes total sense. But if your goal is to have a higher Quality Of Life and Quality Of Connections so that there’s a whole world of connection you’re bringing your partner into, then PR → HS is my choice.

And of course that way you wow them from the first date. There’s no worse impression than not impressing your soulmate when it counts and losing her.

[RockyHandsome]

I am running ED/BDLM ar the moment was considering adding PR but i am concerned i might “weaken” the effects of my stack.

[AlexanderGraves]

@Melody

Maybe it’s not that you’re a narcissist, but maybe it’s really that you blamed your wife for all the problems in the relationship to deflect attention away from the problems you’ve brought too. And as long as you can realise what you need to do to make it better and take action, then really truly you both will be okay now! Much love

Oh yeah, the term might be too much here, I agree.
And I definitely never solved the issues from my childhood and thus brought them into my relationship. Funny thing is, they surfaced about 5-ish years later, when we were already married.
So guys, if you learn ANYTHING from me:

BEFORE you open your heart to anyone, heal it first.

“If you don’t heal your heart, you’ll bleed on anyone, even if they didn’t cut you…”

[TheRock]

@AlexanderGraves

Nobody seems to write from the perspective of the bad guy who realized.

Maybe this book is for you:
“Gestatten, ich bin ein Arschloch”

English translating of the title: “Hello, I’m an assho***”

[Samba9]

Can I use this with emperor?

[RockyHandsome]

Hi Samba i think it should resonate well with Emperor as PS works well with it so PR should be ok.