I’d run KB4 and Primal together for synergy, and run Phoenix on its own day
You don’t wanna run it both days and accidentally overexpose
Don’t take that as a slight btw, I consider myself an advanced user even if I prob shouldn’t lmao, and every time I’ve tried to experiment I accidentally overexposed and got mad recon
Sticking to the basics is better imo
So, like stack rotation?
Precisely.
The newest log on Phoenix:
This sub been kicking my ass for two months. Now at the end of the 2nd cycle, big realizations came up, some fears were disovled, and I am feeling better and more like myself.
But for me this took 2 cycles to start getting positive results. I withstanded brutal recons, questioning everything while being weak, powerless, fearful, sad and down and all kinds of strong bad emotions.
But now is finally getting better. And no I have not overexposed myself. I experimented and we’re using 5 and 7 mins. I think just two times I had full loop.
But advice me guys. I wanted to stop, after two cycles this sub, but is that good idea to stop now, when I feel I finally cleared some shits, and getting good results? Wouldn’t it be better to push another cycle?
I am using Emperor and Mogul with it while my biggest goal right now is generate income, and make my ideas work.
Love this! I completely agree and have had similar results, especially with wealth titles. That’s why I’m never really too strict with switching subs, but keeping them in the same genre. I will say 21 days seems to be a sweet spot to see really huge results, but then switching from something like Genesis Mogul out for Stark or NR doesn’t really hinder my progress, as it attacks a different angle of wealth that might need more addressing at that time.
Why did you want to stop after two cycles? No issue in doing so, as just mentioned in this thread sometimes swapping it for something similar is actually beneficial, but other people like @Jouissance has ran things longer terms and has had amazing results.
I will say however if you are not using WB primarily for romance/women, there are probably better choices for internal development, charisma, or pretty much anything else listed in WB that would also be less dense in your stack, and allow you to focus more on wealth. I love WB have had amazing experiences, but I truly don’t believe it is a good fit for most people focus on wealth.
Lazer beam focus and attention in one direction will always be more efficient, productive, then scattering your attention with different goals.
Hey dude, I am not using wanted nor wanted Black. My main sub is Genesis: Mogul and new emperor.
While Mogul is base, I will not change it, emperor been good to me also.
Just run Phoenix and Khan St 1 together
Interesting post and reply by you both.
True. I’ve had success running things long term.
But if we’re being honest, I always have one main staple in my stack, and the rest I stack switch like crazy. It’s a personal flaw.
I’ve never ran healing titles except for more than one cycle except for Sanguine: Elixir.
As for @MajorVic, I have two comments for you.
First of all, overexposure is a completely personal definition, and has nothing to do with how long you listen.
For me, listening to 3 minutes per week of Dragon Reborn ST1 is overexposure as it completely destroys me. If I listen to 3-5 minutes bi-weekly, however, I notice rapid progress in my emotional development, and mild recon, but it passes within a day or two.
So your comment that “you only listened to full loops twice so you definitely didn’t overexpose” is wrong in the sense that it assumes there’s a strict definition of overexposure. The only definition of overexposure that I’ll personally stand by is “listening to a title enough that it gives you more recon than you want to handle.”
But I also think that you should try sanguine elixir. Now that you’re blooming from Phoenix, that scripting will kick in and go deep for a while. Sanguine elixir is the perfect compliment and is all about healing in a way that feels amazing. If Phoenix was a rough ride, that means there’s still a lot inside you that’s activated, which is the perfect thing for sanguine elixir to target as it focuses on healing starting from the present moment and working its way backwards
lol my b thought I was on the WB thread 
There’s this notion of healing titles reducing the effect of other programs.
What is your experience with Phoenix in this regard?
I’m running GM with DrP (2-3 minutes each) so that DRP can heal the wealth related issues better and specifically.
So far results are interesting. My father announced that he stopped support ending with 2023 and after some initial anxiety, I’m father super chill now. If it did one thing for me, it’s propelling me forwards to getting a job and being self reliant. And I’d ascribe this to GM, Phoenix and probably Emperors resilience that I listened to for 4 cycles.
It doesn’t affect the results I get thanks to the other subs in my stack in a negative way, as long as there’s no recon. On the contrary, it amplifies them and makes the alchemical process more rapid and profound.
I did the last cycle only a Khan Black st4 & Sanguine custom and I am on day 6 of my washout.
Yesterday I get overwhelmed with ugly loneliness to the point I had to leave the restaurant because I felt so much pain, I was searching for the parking space and sat there and just let it happen to the max.
I felt so lonely that I started to vomit 4 x in a 3 min sequence. Then I felt I am gona die if i am a second more lonely on this planet, that was the point where I realized that I am not gona die, it just feels that way.
2 rounds more vomiting and then direct to the hotel.
Today is the first day in my life I am alone and I can have fun and a good time without the need to see people or let’s say I want to see people but it’s not coupled with pain anymore.
Man Phoenix still works after 30 days of the last loop.
INCREDIBLE
Are you sure you are ok? Do you really think these symptoms are from 30 day after phoenix? Have you been on medical checkup of some kind?
You are right about overexposure, as there is not exact limit of how one should react therefore overexpose.
Elixir is interesting suggestion, and it fit goal perfectly but I decided that I am gonna push more cycles with phoenix but limit my usage by 3 to 7 minutes once per week.
I’ll see about that
Relax bro
Some people just have a bigger backpack than others
Also I did 15 min loops every other day with Khan Black ST3 to realy boost it to the max.
I Thank you for your concerns
Wow you removed long standing junk in your spirit and body
I’m running Khan L&W St 1 and I really want to stack it with Phoenix.
Could be overkill
But… doing new khan st1 + khan black st1 like many of us might be also