Main Disc. Thread - PHOENIX: A Dragon Reborn Experience (Free Upgrade Now Available!)

[subliminalguy]

One thing me and my buddy kept on mentioning was how we each, respectively, “get in our own way”.

I shared how I’d gotten an email from another friend we used to play with, and we shared our numbers with each other.

But…I never called. I quickly realized I’d sidelined it. Avoided it (getting in my own way). It felt good admitting this with someone who was safe.

I tried admitting something I’ve avoided here where I live to my housemate this morning. I heard “You should have…”

Not everyone is safe to talk to. I knew he’d probably throw that at me, but I ventured to see. No, not with him.

I didn’t hold a grudge. Awesome!

[Fusion]

@Extraordinaire

For anyone whose run DR through its stages, would be interested to hear any key differences you noticed

The results from Phoenix were more immediate for me. However ran DR for all stages, Khan ST1 multiple times until I actually looked forward running it, over 2 years on Emperor and full cycle of KB which I’m still running.

Saw my ex-wife 2 weeks ago and she kept commenting how much I’ve changed. We were together for 9 years so she knows me pretty well.

With that background - DR I didn’t really notice the effects until maybe 2 months after I stopped running it. Phoenix I saw and felt changes within 24 hours.

[Furkan]

Do you running solo

[Fusion]

@Furkan

Do you running solo

No - running KB, Will to Power and Phoenix. However updating my stack soon.

[James]

[Sub.Zero]

The newest log on Phoenix:

@Sub.Zero

I’ve reflected about my shadow and its core in me, trying to figure out how to tackle it since that’s the main part of my psyche that constricts me, and limits my potential realization. Inevitably I went back to my childhood and my father. I saw the main theme of my childhood (in relation to my dad) as a reengineered version of the biblical theme of the Fallen Angel who got thrown down for rebelling against God since he lost in the rebellion. In my case it was about being thrown down for the hatred God (my father) had for me since he couldn’t deal with his own demons (his mother didn’t want to give the birth and he was an unwanted child). The only feeling that I associate with my father is fear… and as the Fallen Angel the only way to rebel against “God” is to rebel against a fear. I identified that fear as the fear of life which may be stronger in me than the fear of death. In the past I would “mortify” myself to deal with that fear of life and to excuse myself away from being responsible for myself and my life. That self-denial was my weapon against the fear of life. Now, I’ve dealt with some parts of that shadow (my self-denial stemming from the fear of life) yet it still keeps its hold on me. Its core is denying my self the right to feel, experience… to live, out of the fear of life and being responsible for myself. THE DENIAL OF LIVING MY LIFE is the only real nemesis I need to deal with. I though of the sub to tackle it but it seems to me that Phoenix and Primal are the best pair to deal with it as Phoenix helps me transform by letting go of the past and Primal instills in me the love of life and the courage to live it on every level.

Upon the whole reflection the old feeling of grief came back and I cried but the feeling itself seemed to have a much less intense source as if its source had got depowered and the crying wasn’t violent as it used to be and was really short-lived. I think it was Phoenix at work.

[COWolfe]

@Extraordinaire

For anyone whose run DR through its stages, would be interested to hear any key differences you noticed

So far, I’m getting a lot less introspective about my past, exactly what my hang ups are and why they are there, and a lot more of a sense that some negative things are just not there anymore.
Its odd. I can kind of feel a void where something has been for a long time but I don’t really know exactly what was there.

[Leandros]

The trick with fear is : lisen to the fear until fear felt that you have lisen to it fully - then it vanishes

All the best to your Journey Bro

Here a Song for you

Electrified

[Kyuss]

Answer is SubClub?

[Athanaxos]

Oh yeah.

Challenge Accepted.

[Joa23]

@Joa23

Im running this beauty for sure, but its gonna have to wait until January.
Healing subs and holidays is not a good mix for me. I rather run this when I have time for introspection and alone time.

I totally forgot I wrote this… who knew this words would become so prophetic.

I started listening on january 2nd and I have lots of alone time for instrospection, since on january 1st I broke up with my girlfriend and left home…

[Deadpool]

@Joa23

broke up with my girlfriend

Did she cook a bad tasteful dinner?

[James]

Hitting too much receon apparently. I’m going to go to strictly running this solo for a while at one three minute loop every other day

[Lichtenauer]

One short loop of 3 minutes and I had a sexual, not the slightest bit erotic dream of one of my closest female friends from my time back in college.
When I crushed on a common friend, what led to her cutting ties, she decided she could only be friends with one side and broke with me.
When she married I was only invited to the ceremony but not the celebration.
I woke up this morning, early, and couldn’t sleep, only think about this incident tland the pain it inflicted on me.
Then I was able to let it go.

[subliminalguy]

Empathizing with others has been showing up for me with Phoenix.

Changes - Subliminalguy

I had something happen twice today, and I’m wondering about it now. It’s about me empathizing with others. Phoenix brings this out in me, and I’ve seen it really show up a few times. For our lunch break today, we stopped at a nearby Dairy Queen. I’ve been there many times myself, and me and my coworker came here last week on today’s route. The cashier is an older woman, maybe 60’s, but not slowing down. In a word, I’d say she’s “tough”. Handles things quickly and can be blunt in a second. …

[Hoppa]

I’ve been running this for a few weeks now, 1 or 2 loops /week.

Haven’t noticed anything at all. Which isn’t that surprising, in my case.

Some background info for the people who are not familiar with me and my results: I do not feel anything from these subs, except for intense dreams. Which I didn’t have yet with this sub.

I’ve been here for several years now and I’m extremely happy with the real world results I’ve gotten from SC products. I’m one of the high achievers with the wealth related results.

So do not take this message as a criticism of the products. It’s just how I’ve always reacted to them.

[Deadpool]

15 minutes every time?

[Tusk]

@Hoppa

Some background info for the people who are not familiar with me and my results: I do not feel anything from these subs, except for intense dreams. Which I didn’t have yet with this sub.

That’s both with ZP and Q versions?

[Hoppa]

Yes. I’m what they call a hard gainer.

I usually listen to more loops during a week. Up to 4-5 times.

Prefer single stack.

[Hoppa]

Yeah.

Wealth related titles do give me the dreams quicker.