Main Disc. Thread - Objectives / Product Copy Updates / ZP Refresh

Not dropped as far as I know. Postponed.

@SaintSovereign

Do these following titles still need to be refreshed and updated?

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So it turns out ZP v2 has been released. What’s the timeline looking like for all the titles that didn’t have the “Experimental” releases?

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2022-11-05_20h41_51
I am seeing 3 available Downloads for Emperor, I assume the one labeled 2022 is ZP-2. also noticed it is .mp3 format, does this mean ZP-2 with FLAC is a no go?

I believe, like you said 2022, is the ZP-2 refresh. I don’t believe anything in the ZP refresh has been updated to FLAC as of yet. Possibly in the future.

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Was reading about this and I’m a bit confused… What I mean is, aren’t traumas, life issues etc stored in the subconscious?
What if the “look good image” that’s store in the subconscious and will lead the subliminal is all messed up, will I end up with a monkey tail or something like that? :sweat_smile:

I guess I’m misunderstanding how this works

In all fairness, if that logic were truly sound; it would also apply to every other subliminal program in the store.

Fortunately, the mind and, by extension, subliminals don’t work that way.

Your bodymind “stores” trauma in the sense that you have memories of your past painful experiences. At the same time, your mind stores trauma as painful memories. (In other words, it knows that they are painful.)

Also, while it is true that we don’t have direct, conscious access to the deepest elements and processes of our minds; it is also true that these deep elements and processes generate and inform the conscious experiences that we do directly experience.

The deep mind is like the the glacier-fed mountain-top stream that eventually swells into the river that runs right next to you, at the mountain’s bottom. You may not be able to go upstream and climb all the way up the mountain to see where the water begins; but the water that starts up on that mountain top is still the same water that is in the river that you can see.

The subconscious mind is the deeper root of the conscious experiences that you are having in your daily life.

If your deep mind was framing ‘monkey tails’ as the height of human beauty, you’d be really into monkey tails in your conscious life as well.

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Interesting, so you say there’s nothing hidden in the subconscious that doesn’t get some form in real life… If I understand you correctly.

What about different polarities stored in the subconscious?
For example there might be one polarity that thinks “being single is great, love means not being free” and the opposite one “being single means being lonely, I need love”
In normal circumstances one polarity is active while the other remains inactive but still present unconsciously, then when one something happens in real life they swap… And so on

If I listen to a romance sub which part will inform the subliminal?
Or, will the subliminal try to integrate both views to get to a “more whole” result?

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@Sungaze - this is a very good question but I don’t think we can know the answer since our subconcious is still a mystery.

Is every subconcious mind unique? I mean, that makes sense. So does that follow that what you want and what I want are different? That also makes sense. Add to that our individual subconcious mind holding opposing views. Which view will it go with? Possibly the one with the more emotional charge.

And even more is concious guidance along with subliminals. That can override our previous subconcious programming.

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Thanks @Lion, yes I get the conscious guidance part, or at least I thought so lol

In the quote above he says “you decide how to shift, subconsciously” so I read it like “subconscious guidance”… Thus, my question

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You’re thinking of the deep mind like a dead library full of photographs.

But, in fact, it’s living and learning.

It contains countless possibilities. A little bit like the planet you live on.

It’s one planet, right?

But is it hot or is it cold? Is it dry or is it wet? Is it bright or is it dark?

Actually, it’s all of those things, isn’t it?

Yet, it’s quite distinct from every other planet in the solar system. Earth is not Mars.

You don’t play a subliminal, get happy, and then stop evolving or growing. You continue to unfold, to grow, and to discover new possibilities.

Yet, you do so from a newly empowered standpoint.

You know that, “Although I may continue to grow and although I may continue to be surprised by what I discover and by what I become; at the same time, I also am aware of my power to actively influence this continuous growth and to shape this ongoing process of becoming.”

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I’ve probably not expressed myself correctly, then.

There isn’t one single thing that is not like that :+1:

That is what I actually meant. Integration is recognizing that.

Fighting between polarities, perspectives, create tension, resitance, stagnation etc…
So I was just wondering (in my second question) how this subconcious (or even the conscious in some cases) would go about informing if there is still diverengence between polarities.

If I get what you mean, it would go by trial and error?

BTW forgive my “philsophycal break” from my PS+wanted stack :rofl:

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The polarities form the landscape (the ontological ground) and your Will filtered through your perceptions and your experiences chooses your directions in the landscape.

This is one more reason that Action is so important.

You call it trial-and-errror. I might call it ‘experiential feedback’.

Probably more or less the same thing. Both are conveniently called “Action”.

I learn who I am and what I want by going into the world and trying things.

And I do this again and again in each new moment.

You express yourself quite well. I just didn’t feel like asking 10,000 clarifying questions as I often do. I figure if I misapprehend your intended meaning, you can just correct me.

Also, polarities aren’t opposites. They’re just contrasting points along continuums. The things we call opposites are often more related to each other than they are to anything else.

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Much loved and much appreciated.

I was just reflecting today that when I meditate I’m not attempting to recreate a religious or spiritual tradition. If I have a name for my spiritual orientation it might be philosophy. But embodied philosophy. Phenomenological engagement. Experiencing Cosmos through living, being, and sensing.

alright…alright. enough of that.

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