Main Disc. Thread - NFTW Midseason Finale

Especially if you still doubt yourself and your own judgement it IMO would get much easier to follow/take action as soon as you know that this is official guidance.

It not just eliminates the noise, it turns it around IMO, instrumentalising that everyone giving advice basically on their own experiences and in a way also to themselves even when talking to someone else. (Disclaimer: TBC - just speculating here.)

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There is a certainty that comes when your stack is in alignment with what you need to achieve your short term goal/long term goal/life purpose. People say any stack can take you to your destination but I think that the most important is stack alignment. Then anything else about tech become secondary.

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My guess would be the Socratic Method.
Combined with some deductive and inductive reasoning, it could help the mind realizing certain beliefs are incorrect or at least not helpful.

But no idea how that would translate to physical shifting.

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ZP makes your subconscious mind extremely focused on the objectives of the scripting. Period. The best you can do is to choose scripting which objectives are aligned with your greatest untapped potentialities, corresponding with what you want to achieve, and take action that taps directly into that potentialities. That helps build momentum, transgressing into other areas of your being and life. All the scripting that is not aligned with you, what you want and what you take action upon only slows you down and may cause unnecessary recon or/and overload.

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-Isn’t eating properly and exercising fundamental for your health?
-Yes, it is.
-Isn’t health directly linked with how you feel and look?
-Yes, it is.
-For that reason, isn’t eating properly and exercising fundamental for looking good (aka physical shifting)?
-Well, yes.

:blush:

But seriously, one cannot reason with the subconscious mind since it’s (the subconscious) not reasonable. One needs to speak its language, the language of feelings forgotten a long time ago, when we were children. When we had no ideas, no words but only direct experiences and our instinctive and emotional responses to them. That’s what shaped our very core, that old record which music is being played in the recesses of our minds over and over again without us realizing it.

So much hate and so much despair when I cast my gaze into that abyss, yet so much love and hope.

Another approach, mentioned above, is pretty genius:

Asking yourself for advice

That advice is so solid.

Recently, I went through some of my older posts.
And there it was, the advice I needed.

When giving out advice, we’re biased by our own perception and history. That doesn’t mean the advice is bad, but my recent experience shows, that I dish out the advice I myself need.

And that makes totally sense. Since we are biased by our problems, our challenges, our wounds, our history, our etc, it makes totally sense, that the answers we give are coined for our own betterment.

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That’s why I want to run Khan in the future

I want to be able to rely on myself more than anything

From the Khan Love & War sales page

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Thats one of the reasons I run it and boy has it been great. :slight_smile:
I am moving to ST2 next week :slight_smile:

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Having this fear does not make you an “idiot” in any way, as your fear sums up my hesitation — but I don’t mean that in a bad way. Exactly the opposite, since (in my humble opinion), you are expressing a high amount of self awareness, as many people will do the same thing without even knowing.

Humanity loves a good mystery. The solving of mysteries seems to be a lower expression of the collective drive to discover who we are. That mystery provides an impulse forward, to seek, to know, to understand. The mystery itself can enhance your results, as you seek within the self to not only understand the nature of Zero Point, but also the nature of yourself.

The fear here — as I see it (and feel it myself) — is once the truth of the mystery is revealed, that impulse to drive forward will be diminished, as the mystery (which once served as inspiration) no longer provides that yearning to press forward.

But I would argue that this is a self-worth issue, as faith is being placed in the hands of the mystery itself (in this case, the subliminal and its workings) rather than the individual wielding the tool. And furthermore, the mystery (again, in my opinion as a person, not a subliminal producer) shouldn’t actually be the nature of Zero Point. Instead, the central question is: by which mechanisms of reality can a person focus their mind on something — like physical changes — and see the physical expression of the self change?

And the simplistic nature of Zero Point (remember, in explanation, but not in practice) actually complicates this issue, as the outer expression of the idea wil cause many who have already received incredible results to question themselves.

Why? Goes back to the same issue. The faith is being placed on the title and the producers, since we all have a tendency to idolize and exalt those who we think have qualities that we do not. We look for gurus to fulfill us, tools that can complete us, and what the “mystery” of Zero Point reveals is that the true burden and blessings are completely in the hands of the self.

And that’s a scary thought.

You are no idiot, nor is anyone who questions. Those who will even question the explanation are doing exactly as they should. Understanding the self.

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If y’all ever make that article explaining the Zero Point mechanism, I think I’ll skip it until I feel ready haha

I definitely fall in that camp where knowing without a doubt that the sub isn’t “doing anything” and that it’s all me will allow my self-doubt to creep into the picture and possibly diminish the results, vs. that part of myself remaining asleep while thinking the magic water sounds are making me cooler.

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Totally fascinating. Space for projection would be cut, sure, but I would’ve never suspected such a weight for individual users.

It’s not that the title isn’t doing anything — Zero Point isn’t a trick or the such. So, if you’re expecting that we’re about to pull a Kumare (it’s a documentary film about an individual who pretended to be a guru to show people the power they have within), I assure you that is not the case.

ZP is easily explainable, but the actual implementation and theories and ideas are incredibly complex. And that is the issue — attempting to explain this balance in a way that empowers people through knowledge and understanding.

The nature of the method first optimizes your natural ability to the extreme, before the NSE (which will not be completely revealed) then helps you grow further than before.

What we’re attempting to do is what we believe is the next step for our product. We are aware of how well the titles work when the collective is not completely aware of the mechanism, but now we have decided to test and refine it even more. Just as everyone has given us incredible feedback in the past, what could happen when self-aware driven individuals gives us feedback even more.

Also remember the analogy of a computer. Easy to explain what it is, but the actual workings of it requires much more study and observation.

And we will, of course, explain how knowing can actually increase results.

We also aren’t publishing the actual scripts, just the explanation, which will make sense to many.

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I like this idea, and I’d love to be one of the people who are more empowered to give better feedback to create better products which in turn help me more!

Thanks for breaking that down Saint.

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We expected it, since a lot of what we do is simply monitor results and then discuss them. It is a natural reaction, in my opinion. There’s a lot of risk involved, but also an incredible upside.

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Totally. Especially with subs, where most moving parts are invisible. But if you would describe the/one key mechanism in principle mainly helping to structure/find the right way of action taking… I suspect, there are enough other elements left (e. g. NSE or stuff like auras) which leave space for the magic part. (not in an esoteric but design sense, not clearly definable, giving the not comparable worth.)

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Exactly. Kudos.

EDIT: And then comes the understanding. And from that understanding comes new feedback which allows us to further refine and enhance the idea.

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Is a eta possible on certain titles to be updated? Liiiiike paragon or lots?..

Current schedule is at the top of the thread. RenMan Vibes and Dragon Reborn, then we’ll be discussing what comes next.

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Any reason why you’re not doing this with a small NDA group? Do you need more results?

Speaking honestly for a second, I’ve always had trust issues. It’s something I’ve been working on. But I remember not knowing the mechanism of action for these subs bugged me for a really long time and would occasionally kick up some anxiety. I hated that it was a thing. So for me if I did get a peak under the hood so to speak it would only help me feel more at ease and centered in my own power.

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