Main Disc. Thread - Muay Thai Mastery X ZP

[Budewr]

@bombayduck

And I do want to ask, what do you think is a more optimal way of training “for the worst” to make you a stronger person?

you know ive never worried about the worst to be honest like fights and stuff, but the idea behind martial arts for me is kinda for self defense, but mainly about the discipline and embracing the suck itself, thats why i want to do it

@bombayduck

I see big buff muscle heads at the gym get wrecked by skinnier guys on a regular basis. Hell, even I’ve done it before, and I’m sure @ksub and @SaintSovereign have too. The impact that technique has is quite understated by people who haven’t tried the sport themselves.

yes muscles dont mean anything lol, but i was thinking because im kinda getting bored of hitting the gym for muscles, maybe later id join the gym for BJJ or something and it would be my kind of thing
im still searching and seeing videos of joe rogan talk about martial arts

ill do more research, but if im getting into it, ill probably go with bjj

@bombayduck

ust a sidenote, there’s a guy at my gym who’s been going there for 4 years, he’s excellent but he only spars very rarely. He can fuck up a whole bunch of us I bet, but he doesn’t want to and it’s because he doesn’t want to risk injury. No one judges him for it, and why should they?

hahahha thats sick,

@bombayduck

BJJ, like you mentioned, is probably the safest. There’s judo too, as well as wrestling.

hell yeah im gonna do more research thanks for the info man!!

[Budewr]

@Melior

I’ve got tremendous pain reading that
@Budewr that sht hurts
so so so much…

hahahahha dude i have to pass in no in hell im gonna get myself get kicked in the head hahahahhah

@Melior

Also @Budewr I think most of us guys who did some martial art we were scared of getting hurt
And your whole fear is normal

there’s no need for heavy sparring like you said but if you can’t wrap your head around getting a few hit on your dear face here and here on a monthly basis you won’t progress and dodge them better

If you just don’t want any it’s okay but consider another martial art than MTM because damn bro if you don’t want any head hit, what will you do when that kick or elbow is just a sec from your head (even myself I haven’t took a big one in the time I practiced thank god ahahah)

your approach about more classical martial art is probably more fitting for you
and it’s okay

thank you man, im getting more and more interested in bjj definitely will try it out

[Budewr]

@SaintSovereign

I remember the first time I was hit with one. He used a Dutch style kickboxing leg kick, which extends across both legs, and they kinda “lean” into it. Felt like someone cut off my leg.

bro wtf why would anyone want to get leg kicked in the head damnnnnnnnnnnnnn brooo this thing you only see in movies hahahah dude man this must hurt so bad

imaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa passssssssssssssssssssssss hahahah

[bombayduck]

Just to be clear, when we’re talking about leg kicks we’re not talking about getting kicked in the head, we’re talking about getting kicked in the thigh/calf. It’s getting kicked there that fucking sucks more than anything in muay thai.

[bombayduck]

Ah goddamn it, you’re that guy fucking sidekicks man, I always try to land one in sparring just cause I’ve been hit by such good ones, but it needs a ton of work. It’s such a long strike that I feel like I have to learn it though, super great from a distance (especially if you can hit it with a spin).

[Budewr]

@bombayduck

It’s getting kicked there that fucking sucks more than anything in muay thai.

U sure there? Im 100% sure that getting kicked straight to the head is worse than any pain. Dude hahahah this is hilarious i want to spectate some muay tai fights. Seems lots of a fun to watch

But definitely not to participate

[bombayduck]

@Budewr

U sure there?

Try it and see for yourself Leg kick pain is worse than head kick pain, there’s no argument for me. Only thing worse would be an elbow to the head IMO.

@Budewr

i want to spectate some muay tai fights

You should check out some fights on Youtube and see for yourself, it’s very entertaining. Guys like Saenchai, Rodtang and Lerdsila are really fun to watch.

[Budewr]

@bombayduck

Try it and see for yourself Leg kick pain is worse than head kick pain, there’s no argument for me.

Bro until you forget who you are from that hard ass kick into the head

Or an elbow to the head??? Yikes man thats a dirty fight. Leave me out of it

[bombayduck]

@Budewr

Bro until you forget who you are from that hard ass kick into the head

See that’s damage, but not pain. There’s a difference. A strong head kick will cause more damage than a strong low kick, but a strong low kick is more painful trust me.

@Budewr

Or an elbow to the head??? Yikes man thats a dirty fight.

Welcome to Muay Thai, the art of 8 limbs. Elbows are legal there, not in karate, TKD or most striking disciplines. Only striking form that’s more savage is called lethwei, because it’s bareknuckle muay thai and you’re allowed headbutts too.

One cool thing about muay thai compared to other striking disciplines is that you’re allowed to grapple while standing, and that can lead to some really cool trips and sweeps, which are techniques that throw the opponent. That was the thing that made Muay Thai catch my attention. Check this video out for an idea of what they are:

(Muay Thai) Sweeps, Trips & Throws

[Budewr]

@bombayduck

See that’s damage, but not pain. There’s a difference. A strong head kick will cause more damage than a strong low kick, but a strong low kick is more painful trust me.

I mean id take pain rather than damage. That is risky bro

What a sport

@bombayduck

Check this video out for an idea of what they are:

Hahahah this is fun to watch but man what a brutal sport. Damn

[Budewr]

@bombayduck hey man i wanted to ask.

Is there a striking martial art that doesnt involve the head as a target?

Like even boxing you strike someone’s head,

Is there like an art that only targets the body?

[bombayduck]

Oof, not that I know of to be honest. Closest thing I could think of is Kyokushin karate, where you’re not allowed to punch (but kicks to the head are legal).

I’ve said it before a bunch of times, you don’t need to be hit if you want to learn a striking discipline. You will not get into fights and get hit, unless you ask the coaches for the chance to. In my experience, the vast majority of martial arts gyms are not filled with the people that you’ll find in weight-lifting gyms. Try it and see for yourself.

[Psiklou]

@bombayduck

insecure people that you’ll find in weight-lifting gyms

[bombayduck]

@SaintSovereign

Bruh, Kyokushin doesn’t allow head strikes because they fight bare knuckle, lol. Look up the creator of it — Mas Oyama. Dude was nuts.

Yup, kyokushin’s brutal, already familiar with Oyama and a bit of the history. Think you misunderstood my comment, I wasn’t putting Kyokushin down for their lack of punches to the head, it’s just a reality of the martial art.

@Psiklou

Hey, got nothing against weight-lifting, or people that go to gyms. But no one can deny the amount of people with body dysmorphia in those places.

[bombayduck]

Holy shit, I think MTM is finally starting to do the work on the technique side of things. Today compared to two weeks ago, my clinch has improved night and day. A dude that was owning me that day was actually asking me for tips because of how well I was doing. Another friend who’s a pro got the better of me obviously, but he only knocked me slightly off-balance twice, versus the very week before where he literally tripped me 3 times in a minute.

I think MTM is allowing me to learn technique quicker, and apply it immediately. Big win today.

[SubliminalUser]

So I suppose with testers we can now have skills not necessarily done by yourself? Asking because I suggested one on the roadmap that I am not sure you do

[bombayduck]

Landed a gangster-ass sweep yesterday, first time I ever landed a clean legitimate sweep. Even coach was like “that was f***ing sick” and it was against a dude two weight classes bigger.

[Dajardd]

Hello when will be upgrade of this major program or boxing mastery? Thank you.

[RVconsultant]

I don’t know if there is a schedule for when things will be updated.

[Dajardd]

Its okay. Thank you.