I’m really excited to hear from your efforts to learn Spanish and Portuguese side by side.
From my own experience, learning Latin and Italian parallel, it can be hard to learn to closely related languages at the same time because words are similar but sometimes differ in meaning.
But using polyglot alone will give you a huge advantage over my efforts.
Best of luck
I am curious what’s the relationship between acquiring language and processing subliminals
If one learns through immersion and comprehensible input, then it’s logical to assume that it fills subconscious processing queue, along with subliminals. That’s how I learnt English - as much immersion as possible. At first, with movies and tv series. Then, when I started to understand most of it, I started reading. No conscious studying
So, my question is do subliminal results worsen because the processing queue takes longer to clear (because you are pumping hours of immersion) or does the language acquisition ability worsens because subs compete with it? How does it work?
And technically, will learning language enhance the processing powers/“size” of processing queue, if you are immersing for hours everyday and push your mind to acquire language?
Couldn’t you make this argument for all cognitive and learning subs? If anything, I think the sub enhances this processing because all new experiences will be processed through NSE, giving them a way to neatly fit into the new worldview being established.
I don’t have the neuro-imaging data of people learning with/without subs but I’d assume the areas of individual processing are slightly different. Like if you were to tell me to write something using a whiteboard and marker instead of pen and paper. The way in which I’m writing the information differs, but the information itself remains the same regardless of what I’m writing it with. My recall and understanding of the information may become more or less effective as a result though.
I’ve been engaging in rather intensive Japanese immersion for over a year now (we’re talking about an average of 4 hours a day alongside subliminal usage and day to day life).
I still get notable results from subliminal usage, sensing in-depth internal change and the occasional unexpected external manifestations pop up. I’m listening to Crown & Capital, R.I.C.H. Trader, and RAIKOV at the moment, and I’ve made serious headway in clearing much of the psychological and emotional baggage I accumulated over the years dealing with large sums of capital in the markets.
For example, the trades I took yesterday were executed beautifully, I’ve been getting serious about structuring my inner circle to distance myself from emotional/time leeches, and my confidence has been rebuilt as I continue to listen to the stack.
On the language acquisition front, I am where I expected to be on my ability to parse and understand the language, and it continues to improve on pace with what is expected given the amount of hours I’ve put in.
For a metric, my listening comprehension (which is the domain I focused on near exclusively for that first year) is around the JLPT N3-N2 level, and I engage in native content with surprisingly high comprehension at times, especially compared to where I started.
All of that said, this is a larger energy expenditure than just subliminals alone. Proper sleep is crucial, as is fueling appropriately and taking adequate breaks during the days that I immerse with difficult content.
The brain will require more glucose or ketones, and learning a new language will also build new neural connections - likely more than subliminal usage. (Japanese has multiple scripts, new phonetic mapping, tens of thousands of new words unrelated to English etymologies, etc.).
Exercise will help with any fatigue that could pop up. You and your body will calibrate to balance language learning and other subconscious work. Our minds and bodies are immensely powerful once in a routine.
One last thing: Learning a language is likely improving your brain function, which theoretically could enhance subliminal processing. Staying disciplined is easier for me now than a year ago, and I effectively feel like a new person (I’m in my late twenties, for reference).
Best wishes, and ease yourself into it! You’ll be glad you made the effort. 
not really, because when you just start immersing with the language, literally every piece of information (=word) is unknown and the brain has to work on deciphering ALL of it, while with general studying, even though you might be learning completely new subject, the amount of concepts per minute ot studying is much more limited and smaller, compared to language immersion
but other than that, good point
Fellow Japanese learner! Nice, I just started learning it
I assume you are following the AJATT philosophy as well?
I agree. Learning English has been the best decision in my life, learning Japanese potentially would be second best haha
So, overall, you are saying that neither your results worsened, nor language acquisition process, correct?
My initial speculation was that the result and processing of subs should worsen at least in the beginning because you’d be filling your processing queue with the language, but increase (above baseline) after you’ve acquired a large portion of new language. Due to better memory, neuroplasticity, nuanced understanding of how languages work overall, more context for the subliminal script to latch on and better results due to having more perspectives (when I can’t solve some life problem, oftentimes it helps for me to try to think about it in English, rather than my native language, and the reverse is also true)
Awesome! Welcome to the club!
I take a lot from AJATT, though I’d consider Refold as one of my main communities as well. The Japanese Refold Discord group (Refold – 日本語 (JA)) has been one of my main resources, since it’s built for supporting beginners (as well as this spreadsheet for when you get further into native content: Jo-Mako's Japanese Spreadsheet - Google Sheets).
Overall, I’d say that it has net-improved my ability to process subs. A main factor for that is that results are allowed to unfold/bloom when I’m also focused on other things (i.e. the new language).
While subconscious processing is necessary for language acquisition, it is still largely a conscious process (otherwise, those “Learn Japanese while you sleep” videos would work like they’re advertised 
). So similar to what @jelly was saying, the processing that takes place is not a 1:1 match so there’s likely less interference than you’d think.
One of the real bottlenecks as I mentioned in the last post is going to be how well rested and energized you are. If you feel good in those areas and continue to take action aligned with the subs you’re using, you shouldn’t experience too much of a dip. Do expect to be a little more tired than you were before though, but that’s the case for whenever you learn something completely new.
The second concern would be if language learning consciously takes away from your other needs/aims. I found 4hr/day to be a sweet spot for me right now since I can devote a good amount of time to all of my goals without burning out while still make great progress in Japanese.
Feel free to ask me any other questions you have as they pop up. As you can tell I’m really passionate about this sort of thing.
No need to be concerned with this. Subliminal audio – at least Zero Point – provides you with more of a set of skills to apply to situations that helps you direct that situation toward the achievement of your goals. While there is what one would refer to as a “processing queue,” the actuality of the situation is far more complex than the terminology would seem to suggest – again, in our experience. For example, as you’re seeing with the success of the newer titles, the individual’s nervous system itself also determines how much information an individual can process, hence all the scripting on nervous system regulation and calmness.
So, the only way these two could conflict is if the act of language acquisition triggers internal stress, which would limit your capacity to process subliminal audio, especially one about language acquisition. If you want to “push the limits” of your ability to learn languages, pair Polyglot with something like Dragon Reborn: Regeneration, or make a custom with relaxing and calming modules. Improve the nervous system’s ability to hold and release stress in healthy manners.
I don’t know if this makes sense or is relevant but
to what degree is identity and intention still part of the scripting? Or was it ever?
I am, you are, I will, I have etc…
You’re going to have to clarify what you’re asking, lol. But I think you already know that the nature of Zero Point is to provide the user with as much self-directed options as possible.
I mean is it all installing skills or is there working on self identity- self perception, image etc
Identity is who you believe you are, acting as the internal driver for behavior, while skill or discipline is the external system or action taken to reinforce that belief.
Do subliminals with ZP work directly on identity and beliefs or are they instilling skills to accomplish goals that reinforce self perception. Or both?
They help you refine and develop both, self-directed through the tools and skills available in the copy. For example, you define what both Crown & Capital means to you, as developed through the feature set.
thank you for the input and other tips, I appreciate it!
I see, thanks, that alleviates my concerns as well