Main Disc. Thread - Libertine Ultima

I assume you mean for the Q Custom store? I am not certain, and was wondering this myself a couple days ago and forgot to post to ask haha.

I’m happy to try this out when and if it drops. I tried V1 and 2 but can’t remember which helped me the most. I got better results when I consciously guided it and took inspired action.

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How do you dress, act, speak, body language ect. Especially how you react subtly when you notice a woman has noticed you. If you subtly show fear or too much eagerness,

This is actually great though it may not seem it yet due to the lack of external results. There is kind of a grey area as you develop between seeing inner results and outer results. Especially when they depend on the reactions of others. Keep going.
Also, don’t worry about wether anyone but you thinks you deserve your internal state.

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Yep,for customs.i ordered one with libertine today but was curious which version the core is

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@COWolfe

Now that you mention it i do definitely show such things to women (fear/eagerness) subtly which im sure women can sniff and i do hope this is something that Khan eliminates as i move through the stages. Have you ran Khan before.?

I want to thank you and everyone else who contributed to my post i definitely got some great feedback i can use moving forward.

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@Introvert_Uli06

If you’re getting the opposite of IOIs after running Libertine, you’re probably not ready for the program. Like someone said before, it IS a result, just the opposite of what you’re expecting. Libertine is a hard program to run – if you don’t see yourself as a sexual person, the aura may not project. I see some limiting beliefs in your original post, where you stated that “these things only work for good looking people.”

I’m not going to pretend like being good looking doesn’t give you an edge, but a person who isn’t handsome shouldn’t be seeing the inverse of what Libertine tries to do. I see you’re running it with Khan. I’d stick with that for a bit more. You’re running a really difficult stack – if you can withstand the reconciliation, you’ll be happy with what you get.

As for the avoidance behavior and the anger, I think you hit it on the nail. Both programs cause deep, deep change – QUICKLY. People can perceive that change on some subconscious / lower conscious level, including shifts in your aura. If it’s women that you’ve been around before, your new aura doesn’t match your old one, which can cause that kind of anger and disgust because you’re not quite congruent with the new scripting.

Think of it like this: No one wants to be with a “phony.” Just like a lot of men get frustrated when they find out the magic that makeup can cause, women get frustrated when they feel a man is faking who they really are. Can we blame them? Who wants to spend time with someone just to find out that they aren’t who they say they are? This will change over time, as the new scripting settles in and you start organically becoming a new person.

You’d probably get better results interacting with women you’ve never met before, as they don’t have those past, preconceived notions about you.

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I haven’t. I went through my transition from guy no girl would touch with a ten foot pole to doing pretty well, but I did it the hard way long before this level of help was available.
What happened with me was (this is not flattering, but it did work) that I had been becoming more attractive for a while, but didn’t know it. I asked a female friend to set me up with someone. She set me up with a girl who had a lower sense of self value than I had, so she worshiped me. That made me realize that I could attract girls and the dam broke. They were all over me for several years after that.
My advice about that is for now don’t focus on how the 8-10 girls are reacting to you. They won’t react well until you are much further along and have had some success. The positive reaction will start with average and below girls.
I’m not saying that you should go for anyone you have no attraction for, but it’ll be a good hint that something is working.

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12-24-20 @ 12:00 AM;

This is true not only for subliminals, but just as true for those that have (successfully) tried pheromones as well. Congruence is the key to success, by aligning with the subliminal’s script on a subconscious level, you’ll project/manifest that alignment on a physical level in your body language.

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I think women get a kind of cognitive dissonance when they find themselves being instinctively attracted to a guy who their eyes and brain tell them they normally wouldn’t be. Especially if they knew him before and weren’t. That would explain the reactions some are getting on Libertine.

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Well it’s a good thing I am secluding myself for a long period of time so that people are surprised before/after the pandemic due to all the healing I am doing. :stuck_out_tongue:

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:trophy::sunglasses::rofl:

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@SaintSovereign

I want to thank you for taking time to address my concern

As for the aura projecting im sure it does project because around halfway through the sub i start feeling warm and tingly inside if thats even a sign for the aura projecting. As far as the limiting belief i started having it because most of the people on the forum getting success have stated they are good looking and were having somewhat success before the sub.

So youre recommendation would be to keep running khan alongside libertine until the script settles in and begins working.?

Thing is the women reacting to me like that at work i havent ever really spoken to them just pretty much seen them around but since running libertine the reactions have been negative and also any women that responded positively before libertine now respond poorly on libertine which is another thing that concerns me.

I want to know if there will be light at the end of the tunnel. Perhaps when iget to st3+libertine the results will be be betrer.?

Anywho sorry for bombarding you with such a lengthy post id appreciate if you could write back if not i understand you have a business to run😊

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I just re-read @SaintSovereign and this is what I got from the reply before I read your recent post too. So I’d say yes, keep doing Khan, especially the healing stage of Khan, along with Libertine and journal any progress you notice.

If this is a limiting belief of yours, whether you noticed it or not, I can most likely relate - or used to anyway. This is something I believe Khan Stage 1, or DR (I don’t recommend changing program so don’t think about it) can or should be able to help you with.

This probably explains why I had issues considering I don’t see my self as a sexual person. I’ve complicated my belief of my fetish not being sexual even though it is.

@Introvert_Uli06 this may be something we can both relate too, and something Stage 1 will continue to break through for you.

Keep going and keep letting the script get it. I’m sure it will work for you, I have faith in SubClub products.

@Introvert_Uli06 if you want to check if you have limiting belief(s) regarding this stuff, you can use a pendulum. Being a hypnotist, I came across this method a while ago.

It isn’t some mystical thing, it’s what hypnotists and others in similar fields refer to as ideomotor response.

For the pendulum, take a wet tea bag (if you drink tea), or my personal favorite is a key attached to the end of a string.

Place elbow on the table/desk. Hold the string so the key has at least 5 inches of string length.

Once you are holding it, and the key is not moving, just say (out loud or inwardly, although I personally have found out loud to work quicker for me), “Swing a certain direction to show me your YES response”

Keep in mind you are acknowledging that you are addressing the subconscious for this, so if it helps, you can address it directly.

Such as: I want You, my subconscious mind, to swing the key a certain direction to show me your YES response

Notice how the key starts swinging. It may take a few seconds to build up momentum. If you get a slight movement, you can check further by stating “If this is your YES response, amplify the response and make it more prominent” or whatever wording is best for you.

Do the same to set up a “NO” response.

I don’t bother with calibrating beyond YES/NO since I’m not interested in vague answers. If you find that a response isn’t forthcoming once you’ve moved on to asking actual questions, that’s just a cue for me to ask better questions that the SubC can answer in yes/no responses.

Once you have yes/no responses set up and calibrated with the SubC, you’ll test it on some stuff you know to be either true or false.
Like:
My name is Zedediah.
I am a pink unicorn.
I am male.
Whatever stuff you KNOW to be true and false, to make sure the SubC responses track.

Once that’s done, then you can literally say out loud (or inwardly) the beliefs you are checking for, stated like a simple affirmation.

“I am easy-going around women” (or whatever else)

If your SubC is in alignment with that particular belief, you will get a yes response. If not, you’ll get a NO response.

The cool thing is if you find a belief you WANT, but currently don’t have, you can “brute force” the belief by stating it as an affirmation until the pendulum shifts from swinging “NO” to swinging “YES”.

It is a bit limited being it’s just “YES/NO” but again, I find that enough as it helps me make sure I’m asking questions or saying things that CAN be answered simply.

There are other, faster, ways to incorporate better beliefs of course.

Instead of just affirming “I am easy-going around women,” you can ask:

“When was the first time I felt easy-going around women?” as this will presuppose that as a fact, and force the subconscious to search your personal history for examples of that idea. On top of that, asking “When is the FIRST time…” it forces it to look for 2 or more to establish which time was the FIRST.

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@Palpatine

I love this man, I used to ask questions using a pendulum after reading a book about the subconscious mind, it was called The Genie Within by Harry W. Carpenter. It really helped with a bunch of stuff but I forgot about it since.

Great technique, thank you for reminding me off it. Something for me to bookmark.

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@Brandon

Thing is im currently on st2 after running st1 for 60 days and im already 2 weeks in on this stage so youre saying for me to go back to st1.?

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Are you running anything else besides Stage 2 and Libertine?

If not, make Stage 2 your dominant track - run it for 2-3 loops and run Stage 1 for 1 loop to help you keep healing those negative beliefs you might have.

Stage 2 will start to reprogram you regardless if you decide to run Stage 1 again alongside anyway so you actually don’t have to worry. It’ll make you feel more confident and more worthy of being a sexual being with women which will ultimately attract more of them using Libertine.

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I actually used the pendulum thing to ask my SubC which subs it thinks I need to reach my goals. There is someone else on forum who does that too. I want to say it’s @Azriel but I can’t 100% recall for sure.

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Don’t run Khan ST1 with any aura based ultimas. The breakdown already gives funky vibes. Mix this with Libertine and you will get a weird result. Fortunately this is not the first time I’ve heard about this situation.

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Oh really? I was unaware of this. What happened?

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