Looking back, sometimes I could get too much “above” without sufficient action “below” to fulfil it.
Stacking HeO with EE made me realise how much I could have optimised that.
Other than that, no notable recon.
HeO has always been a smooth sub for me.
Now you’re making me wonder how this or TLTB will stack with the upcoming PEACE (based on the Daoism Wu Wei) that I’m eagerly waiting to buy.
@SaintSovereign, can you ask qOS how HeO or TLTB will stack with PEACE? 
What is that??
Literally zero for me
Wanted to link to the thread but can’t as a new user.
You can go to “New Main Idea Thread - Revelation of Spirit Upgrade” and find news of it.
PEACE was first mentioned there, specifically the 38th post. Scroll down and you will see more posts about it from SaintSovereign himself. 
Thank you for your time and answer
is this the major store sub or a name embed
name embedded mate
ok nice, makes sense how you’re having such great results with no recon.
Also no recon here from Hero Origin
Never
Most welcome!
is this the major store HeO or the custom/name embed
When I listen to Hero Origins and Spartan, it generates a lot of sexual energy. I also spend a lot of time analysing different fighting styles, breaking down their pros and cons, and then pressure-testing them against my sparring partners and the trees in the park.
I spent hours this evening studying headbutting, which is part of the Filipino dirty boxing style, and looking at how it can best be used in close-quarter combat. I compiled a whole list of stuff that I extracted from filipino martial arts that can be used for the street for both men and women.
The fighting arts have become an obsession, and I am thriving on it. I might switch back to Spartan Apex, as the energy is way too much, even after only three minutes of listening. It might also be because i purchased and am using paragon vitality. Which is upping the sexual energy.
Both, never had recon on this custom, just exeqution
interesting, what is it about HeO that draws women…is it the alpha masculine fearlessness calm that makes those around feel calmer too
Short answer : internal Value
Have you seen Morona???
Beneath the Fassade the true level of self esteem is that of a child who cannot make a decision, .that didn’t change much until now.
Now Hero on the other hand is the opposite
This has such an effect on people.
When I walk around I get openly laughed on from men - very very weak men, from unnatural men, from Fassade men, al sorts of men but not from women.
On the other side, police men nod in my direction, fighters respect me silently.(I am not even a fighter 
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I find it Funny
From qOS:
That settled, fearless calm is very much at the heart of what HERO Origins develops, and it’s worth being clear about where the “draw” you’re describing actually comes from.
First, an honest framing: HERO Origins isn’t a seduction or attraction title. It’s built around self-development — the warrior archetype, the seven virtues of bushido, mastery of a craft, composure under pressure, and moral grounding. Its focus is squarely on your own inner and outer development rather than on charm, social dynamics, or romance directly. So it doesn’t work the way a dedicated attraction title does.
That said, your instinct about the calm is spot on. A large part of what this title cultivates is exactly the quality you’re pointing to: an ability to stay composed and clear even in genuinely stressful moments, a deep-rooted poise and resilience, and — this is the key part — a presence that radiates security to the people around you. The title is explicitly designed so that others feel reassured in your company, as though your steadiness gives them something solid to stand near. So yes, the man who becomes calmer tends to make those around him feel calmer too.
That’s really the answer to your question. When people (women included) are drawn to a man running HERO Origins, it’s usually not because of any romantic “pull” scripting — it’s a downstream effect of who he’s becoming. A man who is genuinely unshakable, quietly confident, competent in his craft, grounded in his values, and calm enough that others relax around him is naturally compelling. The magnetism is a reflection of the composure and mastery, not a feature aimed at attraction itself. It draws admiration and respect first, and warmth tends to follow from there.
So the short version: the fearless calm you described is real and central to the title, and the way it settles the people around you is one of its most distinctive qualities — but it draws others as a natural expression of that grounded presence, not because HERO Origins sets out to attract.
If attraction or romance is actually your main goal, HERO Origins isn’t the most direct tool for it — there are titles built specifically around seduction and magnetic presence that would serve that aim far more directly. If you’d like, tell me a bit about what you’re going for and I’m glad to point you toward the better fit, or to how HERO Origins could pair with something more romance-focused.
Hero is op when it comes to courage in the face of danger. Can’t wait to see how it’ll perform with Immortals Courage in the stack.
It’s a genuinely amazing and versatile title.
@SaintSovereign hero origins when paired with spartan apex generates an amazing attraction pull. Women are drawn to you like your a celebrity. Thats my personal experience it works better then most of the seduction subs. My charm just flows and girls eyes just light up.
At the same time my confidence is almost to the point of reckless but having said not been reckless yet lol
@themadsexyscientist i auggest if you want more seduction but want the hero type pair it with daredevil then go out and just talk 
I once picked up a girl in the sauna using these two.