Main Disc. Thread - Genesis ZP

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If its not allowed, then I want it more!

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That was sarcasm

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I think ultimately everyone’s greatest desire is to be happy and your purpose is the personal vehicle that gets you there.

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This is it.

Purpose is the baseline of happiness.

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Some might disagree with me here, but it all starts in childhood. If you don’t get your developmental needs there you set out on these grand fantasies or bigger than life expectations for yourself seeking external things to provide a level of comfort you never received.

It sounds cliche and simplistic, maybe even boring. I’m not saying nobody should have grand visions. I think it’s really important in self growth to distinguish between grand visions of your choosing vs a ball and chain you’ve locked yourself to.

I’ve had to learn some hard lessons these past few years.

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my spontaneous 2 cents

happiness- is realization of the neutrality to the benevolence of existence.
Whether your more agnositc or spiritual.
from the impersonal formation of stars, the quantum field and existence to the recognition of consciousness as a benevolent evolving phenomena

In neutral we create our own meaning, and recognize ourselves, our samskaras or past conditioning, as really what puts dirt on the clean lens of life. When the lens is clear, nothing is missing and we experience peace, or peace in motion as happiness. It’s not personal it’s just billions of phenomena happening in a void on top of a source of energy and existence we don’t comprehend.

Happiness is one skill
Purpose is another
They can feed each other but the don’t rely on each other

In benevolence happiness is self evident and radiating

Purpose is what drives direction and meaning, it’s lets our humanity whether the storm of difficulty that life inherently is through the element of us and our identity that is mortal. Sometimes happiness is a candle in that storm but purpose carries on

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I tend to think the same.
I use to think everybody had to DO something to be happy.
Until I met my brother in law, this guy is married with one kid, a job that pays the house. They have no computer, he is the happiest guy I know. You need to see him when he goes with his dog and his child for hiking. His life is not perfect according to my view of life, but honestly, I think he is lucky to be content for what he got. Really happiest guy I know. Like old school down to heart guys in old movies that enjoy repairing their cars, fishing or whatnot and have good wisdom.

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that’s so beautiful man.
Some people are just content AF.

I should amend, I believe people who find purpose tend to have an easier time being happy because it gives ourselves something to chew on, and allows for an expression of our gifts which improve conditions for happiness to be arise and/or be cultivated

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Agreed. Which sub then offers the most happiness? Happiness in general. Not because it gets you laid, paid, or following your purpose. Which sub offers the user ultimate bliss? LBFH? Genesis? Chosen?

Yea if everyone’s purpose in life is to be a CEO or entrepreneur or millionaire, then who is going to do the real work on the ground?

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so far for me, chosen and genesis are tied in this regard.
I’ve only run one loop of genesis so far but the “happy to be alive and explore existence” feeling is compounding each day.

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We’re “built” (“created”, “evoked”) in the way we always want to make sense of what we think our existence and well-being depends on. Happiness is just another meaning that denotes being complete well-being wise and a perceived climax of our existence. That’s the most appealing purpose indeed. Yet when you take a look at our biology only, our purpose is to survive, THRIVE, and procreate. When you take a look at our psyche, our purpose is to stay sane (survive “psychologically”), THRIVE, and make sense of ourselves, reality etc. In the matter of the spirit, it’s also about surviving (immortality of the soul), depending on your beliefs, THRIVING (spiritual practice: purification, cultivation in order to fulfill the “highest” purpose: connecting (or unifying) with your deity, the universe etc.

As you can see the pattern is clear: survive, THRIVE and fulfill the main purpose on various levels of existence (those I mentioned are just the most basic, I didn’t discus our emotional and sexual “aspect”, for example).

We need to take care of our survival, naturally, our purpose on the most basic levels (biological, psychological) is predetermined, the rest depends on our individual needs and preferences (sexuality, emotional aspect, spirituality etc.).

Thriving is our main focus and purpose we’re fulfilling on a daily basis. Always looking for improvements, conveniences and rewards. That never-ending strive for thriving is the very root of humanity yet we can see examples of that in nature as well. The thing is, we seem to overthink it but, well, this is the way we are. We always want to be more than we can ever be.

I did the same on Genesis (overthought), perhaps. I pondered about that and arrived at the conclusion that as humanity our purpose may be to rebuild Eden (the paradise forever lost) but we need to remember that old myth where there was only one man (Adam) in Eden, and when Eve showed up, all went to hell. lol
Maybe for that reason Jean-Paul Sartre said that hell is other people, and the only place we can build Paradise is our beautiful mind/soul. Yet it also needs to have some certain requirements/needs met.

Let’s thrive together on Genesis, gentlemen. :blush:

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I’m going to take these and use them for identity based manifesting of my future partner :rofl:

Thanks for the inspiration!!

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You’re welcome :relaxed:

Make it about you though. :wink:

How do you feel knowing that she’s playful loving fit and bendy?!

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This is genuinely the best conversation/discussion I have ever seen on the forum.

Brava to this new beautiful subliminal for inspiring it, and all of us, to such heights of thought and emotion.

I fucking love it here.

The only comment I’ll add to the convo is -

That’s a limiting belief buddy :slight_smile:
The immortal spirit has all the time in the universe (literally) to realize every single dream we have for ourselves.

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OOOOH GREAT QUESTIONNN

Knowing that my wife is playful, loving, fit, and bendy…

I feel grounded, playful as well with a knowing and naughty smirk :smirk:, strong, and like I can lead our family through anything!

Wow I like this game :smiley: thank you for asking me that @TheEmpress

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That’s yummy!!!

Persist there 🫶🏼

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That’s not a belief that’s the reality that stands in the way to fulfilling our greatest desire that is to be gods on Earth, and even though we cannot achieve that within our lifetime the very same thing drives us towards further advancements.

I was not talking about becoming a millionaire, a Casanova or whatever. :blush:
Even if you are already “there”, being the millionaire or the Casanova, you always desire to be more and more and more… that’s our “divine greed” or “greed for the divine” (stemming from our substantial insatiability that puts us in motion on a daily basis, starting with our basic needs like food, shelter etc.).

I’m sorry for going off topic but on the other hand it was Genesis paired up with QL that did it to me. :blush:

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