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I’m not sure I use proper length of tracks either

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Remember when you were running the same program for hours a day?

15 minutes, the ‘full loop’, is already a micro-loop.

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I meant thirty seconds out of fifteen minutes or whatever. Saint says he gets results from one microloop a week. That just doesn’t seem possible but it is

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I knew what you meant. (and yes, I know we’ve all already been around this particular mulberry bush before. Quite a few times.)

But I’ll admit that I am confused at why it doesn’t seem possible.

And it’s interesting that you can accept one micro-loop (15 minutes) and not the other (30 seconds to 3 minutes).

Are they really that different?

Why should either of them work?

I know you are a music lover.

Think of your favorite band or song. The one that goes right to your soul.

Now imagine, just before you’re about to do something that takes courage or heart, listening to 15 to 20 seconds of that music, and the jolt of energy and awakeness that it gives you. (* deep breath *. ‘Alright. Let’s do this.’)

Then compare that to instead playing 5 hours of elevator music or dentist office music before your big challenge.

Which one gives you more energy and focused power?

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I honestly don’t know. Even fifteen minutes seems short but I get that you don’t want to overwhelm your subconscious to the point it causes upheaval or just rejects whatever your trying to tell it.

I know most of if not all my issues with accepting what’s recommended and my struggle with trusting the process as well as being worried about it taking a really long time if not years. It’s like saying go work hard for years to achieve something but be OK if it never happens before you die. A bit extreme I know but it’s the best analogy I have at the moment. It’s an existential thing.

Now it’s being recommended not to be worried about not getting the entire script. Isn’t that sort of the purpose at some point? If not the track would be less time than it already is

I’m guessing when ZP Union is a thing that the recommended instructions will be to run a micro-loop a week.

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The more I think about it the more I realize my entire issue with being patient is my struggle with trusting the process.

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@unusualfellow

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It’s a journey… and if you learn to enjoy it all the better

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And this is another thing.

You’re not alone in this.

Everyone on here has had issues trusting the process at one time or another. It happens all the time.
It’s one of the big parts of being human.

Being human means being just barely smart enough to know that, most of the time, you don’t have a clue.

I don’t know if you’re doing this offline or not, but

do you put as much thought, effort, and attention into your real-world plans and strategies as you do into thinking about the subliminals?

If I were just reckoning by your posts here, it would seem like 80% subs and 20% real-world planning.

I bring this up partly becauuse that is something that happens with me A LOT. I enjoy thinking about my practices and resources: subs, meditation, manifesting, and so on.

And I sometimes enjoy those MUCH MORE than planning out real-world goals and strategies.

May not be the same for you. But sometimes that’s how it is for me.

So I keep reminding myself about this and working to improve it a bit. And I try to work with subs that will actually help me to not focus so much on the subs. Genesis for example. And Genesis: Mogul.

Anyhow.

Yup.

It’s a process.

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Try not to overthink & worry… it’ll just work out if you allow space for things to grow

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Don’t Trust …

Test.

My customs give better results at 7.5 minutes, than at 3, 5, 10, or 15 min.

The official process is to “Test, Journal, Discover” what length works best for you.
One does not have to blindly trust anything here.

:nerd_face:

It also helps staying with the stack for a couple cycles, as the testing can take that long.

:wink:

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What is your end goal?

Getting the whole script?

Why would you want that? It’s not like you hear it anyways.

The sub is just a tool.

You (probably) want to experience change in the real world. And the sub is the tool to help you to get there. Sometimes you need the whole tool, sometimes only a tiny part.

Back in the day when I was studying, I rarely read the whole script. I read what I needed to reach my goal. Sometimes it was a chapter of a book, sometimes even just a paragraph.

And that was all that I needed.

I needed some special information.

This one paragraph could sometimes change my whole perception of my task or I was suddenly able to view it from another angle.

Of course I could have read all the books in their entirety. The result would have been mental overload. And that I wouldn’t have found that one information I needed because it just drowned in this ocean of interesting but for my task irrelevant information.


So again, what do you want?

The knowledge that you’ve listened to the entire script of a sub you can’t even hear?

Or do you want a result in the real world?

Most people want a feeling.
And not just any feeling.
They’re experiencing some shortage in their life. Be it shortage of love, money, freedom, sex, status, maturity, sanity, whatever.
And they want to be freed from this shortage.

They want the feeling of freedom from the shortage of, let’s say money.

So they turn to SC and buy RICH.
When they listen to RICH, they don’t do it to get the full script.
They do it, hoping the tool they decided to use will help them to experience this feeling of freedom from the shortage of money.


So ask yourself: What is it I truly want?

Sit on it. Ponder on it. Listen music and let your subconscious sort it out.

Once you know it, it doesn’t matter what the tool is. You just use it.

And if the tool means listening to LB for 30 seconds ds once a week, than that’s fine.

Mogul (OG) is the only sub that has given me immense focus on my goals. The reason was it was totally aligned with the action I took on a daily basis ALREADY. I experienced the most (relevant to the scripting) growth on Mogul for that very reason.

I think people should pick subs that would align not only with their goals and intents but also with the kind of action they already take on a daily basis, in order to optimize the results.

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I think you have to define what the process is for yourself. Let go and trust the process is something I don’t like either. You really can’t force trust. It’s very much like relationships, it builds up over a while.

I’ll say this. Microloops are a form of self care. It takes your needs and difficulties into consideration and works with you. If you’re so used to whipping, criticizing, or general feelings of what you do not being good enough it can be hard to give yourself self care.

So instead of trying to intellectually understand microloops, maybe ask yourself why taking it easy on yourself seems to trigger these feelings. It seems like the idea of microloops bothers you for various reasons, but you have a tendency to channel that anxiety into overthinking about the microloops as a concept themselves.

Just one more thing. Patience naturally emerges when you’re no longer in a burning building. So many of us are in a heightened state of stress or uncertainty, the lack of patience isn’t a flaw it’s by design. Needing to figure out things ASAP, worrying about the future, feeling short on time, etc. it’s a state of mind. Your mind is just trying to keep you safe.

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There will always be assholes in this world. They are responsible, karmically, for their own behavior. Why let them drag your vibe and your happiness down if you can help it? I like to think of the stories of Jesus when talking about this subject, that while being sentenced to death and killed he still maintained his serenity and peace. All while facing the ultimate asshole move from nearly everyone around him.

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The only thing we truly have control over in this life is our attitude, our thoughts, our words, and our behavior.

And even then, the majority of people seem to be on autopilot in those regards.

Sometimes they even want to change but they can’t bring themselves to do it for some reason or another.

Knowing about these tools is a blessing imo, everyone here has a slight edge over the general population just by listening to these subs on a consistent basis.

The rest, changing the only things we can control, is up to us. It’s a constant effort and it’s not easy, but I’m sure anyone who’s broken through to that other side where they have real peace of mind will say it’s worth it.

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Speaking about myself, often its that I know what it is that I want to change, eg get a job, but I don’t know how. I didn’t find a lever.
I ran emperor and GM for 7 months and it didn’t change my situation.
Only after I ran two cycles of Phoenix I started to realize what’s wrong.

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I’ll be testing this out soon. I’ve run OG Rich in a stack for almost a year now. My sales and deals so were best on NR+OG Rich and ASBR+OG Rich. Never tried NR without OG Rich

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@SaintSovereign
I am a bit worried if the aura of this clashes with Khan’s aura in anyway.

I read this thread and some said it was something similar to HoM aura, which I am not looking for one at the moment. Doesn’t this aura of charisma and magnetism modifies/ changes/ unbalances the Social/polarizing effects of Khan in anyway?
Is the aura also open-ended? As like some other concepts stated in the description.

Your insight would be really helpful :pray:

Also tagging @GoldenTiger , your insights would really be helpful here, actually one of the main reasons I made an account was to contact you and G:M finally pushed me to.

Thanks :pray:

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the subs will find a way to work with each other if you give yourself enough time to adapt to them.

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