Main Disc. Thread - Fire vs. Saint Round 4 [The Battle is On!]

the punchline :slight_smile:

And im assuming Ascension as well correct?

Curious also to see what’s in there, I fear I’ll get FOMO…

Gotta stay focus on my trading stack :pray:

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Can both be combined? In a good synergistic way, not in a doing too much way.

@SaintSovereign What about the updated GLM with Emperor & Limitless?

Hmm…

It’s a good stack, but a bit hard to explain. Depending on your goals with Emperor + Limitless, it would “solidify” your dedication to whatever those goals are while adding a very strong sense of self-assurance in achieving those goals. For those with issues with stack hopping, GLM will help you continue toward your goals, even in the face of hard adversity.

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Will RM: UWX be updated or is it already the latest version currently, @SaintSovereign?

I just want to know when Ascension is getting updated :c

Season4or5

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Undecided. Might have to be the next round of updates.

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I am not sure what you are talking about. It will be updated during Into the Wonder.

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Oh ok thanks,thats exactly what i wanted to know @James @Parsifal @Viktor looks like Ascension is getting updated this coming season!

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@SaintSovereign How would the new Wanted and new GLM stack together?

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Maybe not the brightest of ideas but what about GLM & New Alchemist to then graduate into GLM with Aeon?

I kind of see GLM also as a spiritual title in a certain way. Truly finding our own masculine core and embodying it can be a considered a spiritual exploration.

Dayum I put this through CHATGPT real quick.

“ 1.

Non-Neediness in Relationships

  • What it means:
    Non-neediness doesn’t mean you stop caring or become distant. It means you don’t rely on others for your sense of worth, emotional stability, or identity.

  • Why it matters:
    Neediness repels because it subconsciously signals lack and insecurity. Non-neediness attracts because it radiates inner completeness.

  • How it shows up:

    • You enjoy love, friendship, and connection, but don’t “cling.”
    • You can walk away from unhealthy dynamics without collapsing emotionally.
    • Your emotional state is self-sourced, not dictated by others’ approval.”

“ 2. Inner Strength & Solidarity
• Strength:
This isn’t just physical strength, but emotional resilience and mental clarity. It’s the calmness that comes from knowing you can handle whatever comes your way.
• Solidarity with yourself:
This is about being fully allied with yourself—not abandoning your values or dignity for validation. You become your own anchor, which makes you unshakable.”

“ 3. Self-Sufficiency in Love, Friendships, Leadership

• Love:

You give love freely, but from a place of abundance—not as a transaction. This makes romantic relationships healthier and more magnetic.

• Friendships:

You don’t seek constant validation or reassurance; instead, you bring value and presence to your friendships.

• Leadership:

Leaders with this quality inspire loyalty because they’re grounded, decisive, and secure, not seeking approval or control.”

“When someone embodies this kind of presence, people feel it. It creates a sense of safety, trust, and admiration—in romance, friendships, and even professional contexts. It’s often described as a quiet, grounded power—not forceful, but deeply influential.”


Absolutely — let’s go deeper into what having this kind of presence really looks and feels like.

When people talk about “The Masculine Presence,” they are describing a felt energy you carry that influences how others experience you. It’s not just about posture or words — it’s about the state of being you project.

What It Feels Like Internally
• Calm but alert:
You are relaxed yet fully aware of your surroundings. You don’t rush to fill silence or prove yourself.
• Self-contained:
Your emotional center is within you, not swayed by others’ moods or opinions. You can enjoy connection, but you don’t need it to feel complete.
• Rooted in purpose:
You know who you are and what you stand for. Decisions feel less chaotic because they align with your deeper values.
• Emotional range with control:
You can experience emotions deeply without being ruled by them. Anger, sadness, and excitement don’t throw you off balance — they move through you, not overtake you.

How Others Perceive It
• People feel safe around you:
Because you’re not reactive or desperate for validation, people sense emotional stability and trust it.
• You command attention without forcing it:
When you walk into a room, your energy fills the space without you needing to dominate it.
• You’re respected without demanding respect:
Your calm strength naturally earns admiration.

Core Elements of This Presence
1. Stillness – You don’t need to prove yourself through constant action or talking. You can hold silence without discomfort.
2. Boundaries – You know where you end and others begin. You give without being depleted.
3. Non-attachment – You enjoy relationships, opportunities, and success, but don’t cling. If they go, you remain whole.
4. Emotional Grounding – Your emotional baseline doesn’t swing wildly; you return to center quickly.
5. Directed Energy – Your actions are deliberate and meaningful. When you speak or move, it’s with purpose.

Examples in Action
• In a conflict: You stay calm, grounded, and listen deeply instead of reacting impulsively.
• In love: You express affection freely but don’t crumble if your partner pulls away or challenges you.
• In leadership: You can make firm decisions without needing everyone to agree or like you.“

I can already tell just this module alone will change my life. Becoming a law upon myself, no defining myself by others, having that self-reliance that just radiates that you define your own world and are not defined by others. Now you are truly empowered, self-sourced and not by others validation.

Above all just to have the integrity of your own beliefs, opinions and feelings and not to bend under pressure by your peers. Just being true to yourself because you have the necessary strength and power within to stay true to yourself.

Perhpas that could help:

fight

Yes i believe Fire is the expert in the realms of dating, body building as he is a professional body builder. Whilst Saint is more of the spiritual type.

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Fire made Alchemist.

That i was not aware of thankyou.

Bro, Fire is at a really high level when it comes to dealing with energies. He is the brains behind titles like KB and AEON. Whereas Saint is really good at dating as well. He gives really good dating advice to people throughout the forum. These gentlemen are all-rounders and good at all the aforementioned things.

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You are right @WinglissStark i am deeply sorry that i pigeon holed Fire into a single category.

Both these gentlemen (fire and saint) are equally talented in many areas.

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